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Tiva Steelheart

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THE SWORN
Start each round with X Black Sworn! Order Markers. You may not place more than one Sworn! Order Marker on a single Ccard. X =is the number of units on your team that are in The Sworn faction, to a max of 4.

THE SWORN ATTACK!
Once per turn, before a move action with a figure you controlon your team, you may remove an oOrder mMarker from a figure on your team (you control?) to choose either Tiva Steelheart or a figure on your teamyou control within 6 clear spaces of Tiva. Maneuver the chosen figure up to 4 spaces with Stealth. Figures chosen by this ability may not use another move action this turn.

CONTROLLED LYCANTHROPY
If Tiva has an Order Marker is removed from herTiva's card, she heals Tiva 1 wound, and add 2 to her mhas +2 Move number for this turn.
For pasteability.
THE SWORN
Start each round with X Black Sworn! Order Markers. You may not place more than one Sworn! Order Marker on a single card. X is the number of units on your team in The Sworn faction, to a max of 4.

THE SWORN ATTACK!
Once per turn, before a move action with a figure you control, you may remove an Order Marker from a figure on your team to choose either Tiva or a figure you control within 6 clear spaces of Tiva. Maneuver the chosen figure up to 4 spaces with Stealth. Figures chosen by this ability may not use another move action this turn.

CONTROLLED LYCANTHROPY
If an Order Marker is removed from Tiva's card, she heals 1 wound and has +2 Move this turn.
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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM



NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Steelheart

Army Test

Map: Custom

Units: Steelheart, Lady Death, Hellslinger, War Angel (1010)

Vs.

Spider-Verse: Otto, Ashley, Spider-Punk, Spider-Bots, Takuya, Leopardon (1010)



Spoiler Alert!


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Army Test

Map: Custom

Units: Steelheart, Lady Death, Hellslinger, Guy Gardner (1060)

Vs.

Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Spider-Man, Daredevil, Swordsman (1060)



Spoiler Alert!


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Army Test

Map: Custom

Units: Steelheart, Hellslinger, War Angel, Vassago, Nameless Wolves, Moon Knight (Avengers) (1000)

Vs.

Fan Four (1000)



Spoiler Alert!


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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Well, this faction is complex as hell. But very very satisfying to play. I believe I still haven’t maximized their potential, but also, since the only true turn efficiency is with the weak wolves, I think their potential has a cap to some degree. That third army I think was the strongest, with Moon Knight synergizing well, and the animals added a lot of cool support. But also, they like their tricks SO much, that trying to build around a big turn blowout figure like Guy Gardner or the TMNT doesn’t feel worth it. Sure you don’t lose your whole round, but they feel totally neutered with no extra OMs. So my one concern is fine. I think that Guy is still a great draft with these guys, but its not a problem at all, and I like having some solid non-factional pieces fit in. Very happy with this so far.

 
Of note, I swapped her maneuver to a move action, we intended to do that and I just totally forgot to swap it. The move action allows synergy with Hellslinger.

Otherwise, very happy here. Glad to finally have her done after a few years of being on hold.

I propose we move to testing
 
C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: TIVA STEELHEART
VERSION TESTED
Spoiler Alert!
Team Test
Map: GRUNDY’S GRAVE
Units: Tiva Steelheart (190), Hellslinger (210), Lady Death (360), War Angel (240) (1000) vs Omni-Man, Atom Eve, Invincible (1000)
Unit Summary: Fun, brutal game that felt like it could’ve gone either way about the whole time. Lots of power on both sides. Omni and Tiva seemed like they might last forever in end game, but he was stronger overall. I like this crew at 1000 points.
Game Summary
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  • Damage Done (Normal Attack): Inflicted [6] wounds on [Omni-Man]
  • THE SWORN: All the extra Order Markers were [huge for making the faction go]
  • THE SWORN ATTACK!: Used for [3] additional move actions
  • CONTROLLED LYCANTHROPY: Used to heal [4] wounds and for move boost [0] times
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Omni-Man with 3 Life wins.
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Team Test
Map: GRUNDY’S GRAVE
Units: Tiva Steelheart (190), Hellslinger (210), Lady Death (360), War Angel (240) (1000) vs Joker (220), Mister Freeze (240), Calendar Man (130), Long Halloween (80), Mister Zsasz (100), Arkham Inmates (x1) (60), Man-Bat (170) (1000)
Unit Summary: Joker couldn’t muster the toxic wounds and Mister Freeze went down like a chump and the Arkhamites never recovered. They just didn’t have the beef to keep up with the Sworn here, though Man-Bat made it interesting.
Game Summary
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  • Damage Done (Normal Attack): Inflicted [0] wounds
  • THE SWORN: All the extra Order Markers were [helpful again]
  • THE SWORN ATTACK!: Used for [4] additional move actions
  • CONTROLLED LYCANTHROPY: Used to heal [0] wounds and for move boost [0] times
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Tiva with Full Life and War Angel with 5/6 Life win.
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UNIT SUMMARY: The Sworn Attack! feels like a strange ability title for movement ability. Overall, I like how the faction plays together and I’d love to see a way for them to come in at 1000, whether that’s having Tiva at 190 or lowering one of the others by 10 points. It seems like a great four figure 1000 point build that we should have in the game.
 
Thank you! So glad the army feels good to you. I don't mind adjusting one of their points to fit into that 1000 slot if you think that's fine. Maybe LD would be best? Having her cheaper would help in the faction overall.

But also that said, I do plan to add more additions to the faction so it should theoretically be able to hit that 1000 points in a few different ways too.
 
If you went Hellslinger at 200, then Tiva and he might both feel easier to swap in/out. I think Lady Death feels like the beefiest of them. I'd hesitate to drop the points on her or War Angel, probably.
 
Pretty sure testers wanted Hellslinger bumped up to 210? I'd have to check his thread.

Like I said I don't mind them not fitting at 1000 if other options help a few different builds get there. I think it just depends if we think Steelheart is worth 190 or 200.
 
My thought is that if the team here is balanced at 1010, it's balanced at 1000, so might as well make a playable package. Tiva is probably the most dependent on the others to really have value, so dropping her to 190 probably makes the most sense then.
 
C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Tiva Steelheart

Version tested:
Spoiler Alert!


Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: 1000 pts – Lady Death 360, War Angel 240, Tiva Steelheart 200, Vassago 100, Nameless Wolves 80, Spells 20 points VS 1000 pts – JLA Trinity
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: 1000 pts – Lady Death 360, War Angel 240, Tiva Steelheart 200, Vassago 100, Nameless Wolves 80, Spells 20 points VS 1000 pts - Fantastic Four
Spoiler Alert!


GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: I already spoke with the LD about this but I think Tiva can drop 10 points easily to 190 to make a solid 1000 point team. I also think she can drop to 5 life without a problem seeing she has a pretty easy way to heal. The Sworn are a strong faction. On first read they look a little confusing but once you have the whole team in front of you they aren't too hard to play. By the time I hit the second game I felt like I got into the swing of how to play them. I'm sure I missed an opportunity or two in game 1. The faction as a whole might be a tad hot as they beat a couple of stronger teams without a lot of resistance. Game 1 I used the JLA Trinity, in hindsight that might not have been the best pick because Lady Death can get around Superman's defense. Even without her power there are ways to get in some auto wounds. I found good spots to use Vassago in game 2 which led to to couple of bonus wounds. Both games were played on a smaller map some they were able to get set up quickly, much faster then their opponents. I don't really have any issue with Tiva other than what I mentioned earlier about a small points drop and a life drop. I found that I didn't really need her offense much. Lady Death and War Angel are just too good to not use over her. I think I only attacked with her twice in both games combined. Her best feature is giving out the Sworn Markers and giving out the extra movement. I'll also repeat something that Bats said, Tiva's second power title is a little misleading “The Sworn Attack!” has nothing to do with attacking and is all about movement. I don't have a great suggestion there, but maybe something that references movement or being on the move. All and all I'm looking forward to trying out the faction again, next time with Hellslinger in the team.
 
Thanks! If you guys are okay moving forward, they do seem slightly hot. But I'll drop the life and that should help. If Steelheart is on the front lines as your heavy hitter you're probably not doing amazing anyway, so that's an easy tweak.

The Sworn Attack! is a specific reference. The shot of the whole team teleporting in to attack the bad guys is labeled that, which is why I used it here. I thought it evoked a team of superheroes busting onto the scene well myself. But I can try to find another reference if its not jiving with ya'll.

I propose we move to final editing
 
I'd be up for a different reference if you can think of one, just because "attack" means something so specific in our game that I think the current ability title/ability marriage is unnecessarily confusing for players.

Dig the faction overall and down for her dropping life by 1 and going 190 here! yea
 
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