The height rules

[Jedi Master Corazz]

All right I found that base height is the base, as in the platform they stand on. Do you get height advantage if on level ground and your a medium 6 and they're a medium 5

 

[mrbistro]

All right I found that base height is the base, as in the platform they stand on. Do you get height advantage if on level ground and your a medium 6 and they're a medium 5

Nope. It's all about standing on a level that is higher than your opponent.

 

[Pattar007]

No Jedi Master.

 

[Draconious]

Think of it as the game is balanced at ground zero so taller units already get their bonus etc... (there is no bonus)... but once they get higher, they get a bonus...

 

[Jedi Master Corazz]

Then what's the poin t of the numbers, like medium 6.

 

[netherspirit]

The height number is used for a few of things:

The first thing is climbing. A figure can only climb up (all at once) a number of spaces that is less than their height number.

The second thing is falling. If a figure moves down a number of spaces (all at once) that is equal to or greater than its height, it would take falling damage. See also extreme falling damage, if they fall more than 20 levels higher than their height.

The third thing is extreme height advantage. That is if a figure's base is 10 or more levels higher than the height of a lower figure they can roll 2 additional attack dice when attacking the lower figure.

The size classification (Small, Medium, Large, Huge) is used in a few powers to limit the effect of said powers. IE something that only affectes small and medium figures.

Did I miss anything?

 

[RichardD]

The third thing is extreme height advantage. That is if a figure's base is 10 or more levels higher than the height of a lower figure they can roll 2 additional attack dice when attacking the lower figure.

Just checking, as I've seen it played both ways, does the higher figure get the 2 dice bonus if he is on a level that is 10 higher than the level of the defender's *base*, or is it that he gets the 2 dice if the level difference between bases is ten plus the height number of the target figure?

I think it's the latter, but it's my least favourite rule in HS - it's cumbersome to count, tricky to remember, and easily debated thanks to the wording of the rulebook.

 

[netherspirit]

The third thing is extreme height advantage. That is if a figure's base is 10 or more levels higher than the height of a lower figure they can roll 2 additional attack dice when attacking the lower figure.

Just checking, as I've seen it played both ways, does the higher figure get the 2 dice bonus if he is on a level that is 10 higher than the level of the defender's *base*, or is it that he gets the 2 dice if the level difference between bases is ten plus the height number of the target figure?

I think it's the latter, but it's my least favourite rule in HS - it's cumbersome to count, tricky to remember, and easily debated thanks to the wording of the rulebook.

It is indeed the latter.

You take the figure's height and add the number of levels under them to it. So a 4 height figure on the first level of the map would be height 5, meaning you would have to be on level 15 or higher.

 

[toddrew]

Did I miss anything?

The fourth thing, to determine engagement: To be engaged two figures must, of course, be on adjacent spaces, but also the heights of the two figures must "overlap", i.e. the height of the lower figure must be higher than the base of the figure perched on the upper level.

I can't think of a case offhand, but just because a figure looks like it's engaged, isn't necessarily so; the height numbers are sorta averages that don't account for the figures stance. Not all figures with a height of 5 are the same height measured in mm or inches.

 

[Ketch]

Did I miss anything?

The fourth thing, to determine engagement: To be engaged two figures must, of course, be on adjacent spaces, but also the heights of the two figures must "overlap", i.e. the height of the lower figure must be higher than the base of the figure perched on the upper level.

I can't think of a case offhand, but just because a figure looks like it's engaged, isn't necessarily so; the height numbers are sorta averages that don't account for the figures stance. Not all figures with a height of 5 are the same height measured in mm or inches.

I can think of the inverse case.
The Airborne Elite that is crouching is rather short but still "Height 5"
So eve if he is below the edge of the 4th level he is still adjacent to anyone beside him that is 4 levels higher than him.

 

[mrbistro]

You take the figure's height and add the number of levels under them to it. So a 4 height figure on the first level of the map would be height 5, meaning you would have to be on level 15 or higher.

I kind of hope they change this later on down the road. All of HS's rules are for ease of play, but this one can really bog down games as everyone stops to calculate levels.

 

[Jedi Master Corazz]

I totally understand now thankyou my fellow nerds, but let me get this straight you have Mcreech , going against, Braxus on one level base higher than her, while he's looking up at her, he brakes his neck because he had to look so high up, but says, "It's ok I have height advantage, even though your towering over me, and your nasty drool is falling on my hat."
I love the logic, bring it on Braxxy. :coolman:

 

[ArchonShiva]

I totally understand now thankyou my fellow nerds, but let me get this straight you have Mcreech , going against, Braxus on one level base higher than her, while he's looking up at her, he brakes his neck because he had to look so high up, but says, "It's ok I have height advantage, even though your towering over me, and your nasty drool is falling on my hat."
I love the logic, bring it on Braxxy. :coolman:

Well, er, you see, McChreech he, er, he had an attack die removd because he was too short to shoot his opponents, er, effectively. So, yeah er, being one level higher makes him, er, tall again, yeah that's it.

Roll with it. Anyway fighting a towering dragon, the less it towers, the better off you are. So it makes some sort of sense.

I made a custom that's size six but has a power where it gets +1 elevation for calculating height advantage. It doesn't make much sense at first sight, but the idea is, his center of gravity is quite high for a human, or something.

Drake, on two elevations, can reach far more interesting spots on Braxas' belly.

 

[Darhelm]

The third thing is extreme height advantage. That is if a figure's base is 10 or more levels higher than the height of a lower figure they can roll 2 additional attack dice when attacking the lower figure.

Just checking, as I've seen it played both ways, does the higher figure get the 2 dice bonus if he is on a level that is 10 higher than the level of the defender's *base*, or is it that he gets the 2 dice if the level difference between bases is ten plus the height number of the target figure?

I think it's the latter, but it's my least favourite rule in HS - it's cumbersome to count, tricky to remember, and easily debated thanks to the wording of the rulebook.

It is indeed the latter.

You take the figure's height and add the number of levels under them to it. So a 4 height figure on the first level of the map would be height 5, meaning you would have to be on level 15 or higher.

Ohh. I didn't know that. i've always just played if you are 10+ levels higher you get two attack die, never calculated the figures heights into it.

 

[ej]

I've forgotten the extreme height advantage rule. I'm almost inclined to ignore it since I don't want to bring YET ANOTHER rule into me and my daughter's games. I don't want her getting even more frustrated.

 

[Great Wyrm Lord]

Renegade clarified this rule on page 18. Here is a copy grab of the rule:
• Height Advantage: If the base of one figure is on a higher level than the base of the other figure, no matter their actual Size or Height, the figure on the higher level has a Height Advantage and rolls one extra die for either attack or defense. If the base of the higher figure is 10 or more levels higher than the base of the lower figure, the higher figure instead rolls two extra dice for either attack or defense.
Hope this helps during your next gaming session.

 

[Myriadite]

I am not upset by this rule change. I wonder what motivated them to change it.

 

[Great Wyrm Lord]

I am not upset by this rule change. I wonder what motivated them to change it.

To make the rule more simpler is my guess.