The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane)

[IAmBatman]

Re: Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane)-VOTE for Playtes

Four. I pre-yea'd. And, yes, this passes to playtesting!

Sign up in the playtesting thread, though, Viegon.

 

[Flame Gryphon]

Re: Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane)-VOTE for Playtes

Alright.

Yup, Viegon, you can.

 

[Viegon]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

Yeah, I knew I had to sign-up in the other thread, but I was asking if the proposal had passed.

I'll get to playtesting right away, already got somes armies planned.

 

[Viegon]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

Alright, here's my Public Playtest for YL Scarecrow. Overall, a very fun design that fits well with the rest of the Yellow Lantern faction, and I love the theme with his SA. In my games he felt a little overpriced, like he should be more like 220-230; the problem was, 2 attack on his SA just can't pierce a lot of figures' defense, even with the -1. If you wanted to keep his points up, I think he might be a little more fun if his SA subtracted 2; either that or switch the range and attack numbers on it, so it's Range 2/Attack 3.

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT YELLOW LANTERN (SCARECROW)

- THEME TEST
Pass

- MIRROR TEST
Pass

- BONDING TEST
Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST
Pass

- POWER CHECK
Pass

- FUN TEST
Pass

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST
Pass

- DRAFTING TEST
Pass

- USAGE TEST
Pass

- STRATEGY TEST
Pass

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Army Test 1
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? 250 seems a little high, more like 200-230
- Give a brief overview. With only 2 attack on his Special Attack, Scarecrow just couldn’t get through his enemies defense, and he couldn’t risk just taking them down one at a time. Fun to play, but not quite worth his points.

UNIT SUM-UP
Damage:
Normal Attack: 2 Ninja.
Special Attack: 4 Ninja.
Power Usage/Effectiveness:
Yellow Power Shield: 3 markers used up.
Murder of Crows SA: Used 5 times out of 7 attack phases. Used with 1 attack 1 times. Used with 2 attacks 0 times. Used with 3 attacks 2 times. Used with 4 attacks 2 times.

Map: Crash Landing
Units: YL Crane, YL Arkillo, Manhunter x1 (700 points) VS Hand Ninja x3, Ra’s Al Ghul, Talia Al Ghul, Boomerang (695 points)

Spoiler Alert!

During the First Round: Army 2 wins Initiative (Manhunter chooses Ra’s Al Ghul for Manhunting).
ARMY 2: Boomerang/Ninja move out.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow flies out and kills a Ninja.
ARMY 2: Boomerang/Ninja put 1 wound on Scarecrow and grab Wannok.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow fails with his SA.
ARMY 2: Boomerang/Ninja fail on Scarecrow.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow kills the Ninja on Wannok.

During the Second Round: Army 1 wins Initiative.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow flies back to the ship and uses his SA to kill a Ninja.
ARMY 2: Talia/Ninja cause Scarecrow to waist a Battery Marker.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow kills 2 Ninja.
ARMY 2: Boomerang/Ninja put 1 wound on Scarecrow.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow kills a Ninja.
ARMY 2: Ra’s Al Ghul moves out (Manhunter starts the Hunt).

During the Third Round: Army 1 wins Initiative.
ARMY 1: Arkillo fails on Boomerang.
ARMY 2: Boomerang/Ninja fail on Arkillo.
ARMY 1: Arkillo uses Eviscerate to put 2 wounds on Boomerang.
ARMY 2: Boomerang/Ninja put 2 wounds on Arkillo.
ARMY 1: Arkillo dodges a disengagement to put 5 wounds on Ra’s Al Ghul through Eviscerate and his attack.
ARMY 2: Ra’s Al Ghul places the Lazarus Pit next to him and fails his attack on Arkillo (Manhunter moves next to Scarecrow).
LAVA FIELD: A Hand Ninja dies.

During the Fourth Round: Army 2 wins Initiative.
ARMY 2: Ra’s Al Ghul heals up using the Lazarus Pit and then kills Arkillo then uses Demon’s Head to put a wound on both Boomerang and Scarecrow.
ARMY 1: Order Marker lost on Arkillo.
ARMY 2: Boomerang/Ninja cause Scarecrow to waist a Battery Marker.
ARMY 1: Manhunter kills Boomerang.
ARMY 2: Talia/Ninja remove Scarecrow’s last Battery Marker.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow fails.

During the Fifth Round: Army 2 wins Initiative.
ARMY 2: Talia/Ninja kill Scarecrow.
ARMY 1: Manhunter kills a Ninja.
ARMY 2: Talia/Ninja put 1 wound on Manhunter.
ARMY 1: Manhunter kills Talia.
ARMY 2: Ra’s advances.
ARMY 1: Manhunter puts 1 wound on Ra’s

During the Sixth Round: Army 2 wins Initiative.
ARMY 2: Ra’s takes a wound to disengage and uses Demon’s Head to kill Manhunter and the last Ninja.

4 life Ra’s Al Guhl

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Army Test 2
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? Again, somewhere around 200 sounds right.
- Give a brief overview. Scarecrow’s SA was great for clearing up the Moloids, but Doom kept risking disengagements with the Corps Soldiers to tie Scarecrow down.

UNIT SUM-UP
Damage:
Normal Attack: 1 Moloid, 2 wounds to Doom.
Special Attack: 5 Moloids.
Power Usage/Effectiveness:
Yellow Power Shield: 0 markers used up.
Murder of Crows SA: Used 2 times out of 4 attack phases. Used with 1 attack 0 times. Used with 2 attacks 0 times. Used with 3 attacks 2 times. Used with 4 attacks 1 times.

Map: Crash Landing
Units: YL Crane, YL Sinestro, Sinestro Corps Soldier x2 (700 points) VS Moloid x13, Doctor Doom (C3G), Doombot x2 (695 points)

Spoiler Alert!

During the First Round: Army 1 wins Initiative.
ARMY 1: Sinestro/Corps Soldier1 move out.
ARMY 2: Doom/Moloids cause Sinestro to lose a Battery Marker.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow kills a Moloid; Corps Soldier1 engages Doom.
ARMY 2: Doom/Moloids fail.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow takes a wound from disengagement to kill 3 Moloids; Corps Solider1 dodges a disengagement to engage Doom on Lava Field.
ARMY 2: Doom/Moloids remove a Battery Marker from Corps Soldier1.
LAVA FIELD: Both Doom and Corps Soldier1 take a wound.

During the Second Round: Army 2 wins Initiative.
ARMY 2: Doom/Moloids remove a Battery Marker from Scarecrow.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow puts 2 wounds on Doom; Corps Soldier2 flies in but Elaborate Pit Trap stops him and causes him a wound.
ARMY 2: Doom/Moloids fail on Scarecrow (knockback moves him away from Doom).
ARMY 1: Scarecrow kills 2 Moloids; Corps Soldier1 fails on Doom.
ARMY 2: Doom/Moloids kill Corps Soldier1 and put 1 wound on Sinestro.
ARMY 1: Sinestro/Corps Soldier2 kill a Moloid and put 2 wounds on Doom.
LAVA FIELD: Scarecrow, Corps Soldier2, and Doom all take a wound; Doom is killed but he replaces a Doombot.

During the Third Round: Army 2 wins Initiative.
ARMY 2: Doom/Moloids kill Scarecrow.
ARMY 1: Turn lost on Scarecrow.
ARMY 2: Doom/Moloids put 3 wounds on Sinestro.
ARMY 1: Sinestro/Corps Soldier2 kill 2 Moloids and put 3 wounds on Doom (a Battery Marker used with Sinestro’s SA).
ARMY 2: Doom/Moloids waist another of Sinestro’s Battery Markers.
ARMY 1: Sinestro/Corps Soldier2 kill a Moloid and Doom (Decoy of Doom saves him again).
LAVA FIELD: Corps Soldier2 and a Moloid die.

During the Fourth Round: Army 1 wins Initiative.
ARMY 1: Sinestro uses his last Battery for his SA but only does 1 wound to Doom.
ARMY 2: Doom kills Sinestro.

4 life Doom, 2 Moloids.

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Army Test 3
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? 250 seemed about right this game
- Give a brief overview. In the beginning, things weren’t going well for the Yellow Lanterns as Arkillo went down quick and the Manhunter’s never got the chance to drain the Green Lanterns. But Sinestro, Scarecrow, and the Corps Soldiers were able to pull out a win.

UNIT SUM-UP
Damage:
Normal Attack: 1 wound to Hal Jordan.
Special Attack: 1 wound to Guy Gardner and 1 Battery removed from him, 1 wound to Hal Jordan and 2 Batteries removed from him.
Power Usage/Effectiveness:
Yellow Power Shield: 0 markers used up.
Murder of Crows SA: Used 5 times out of 7 attack phases. Used with 1 attack 0 times. Used with 2 attacks 4 times. Used with 3 attacks 0 times. Used with 4 attacks 1 times. Used against non-Fearless 4 times.

Map: Crash Landing
Units: YL Crane, YL Arkillo, Manhunter x3, Sinestro Corps Soldier x2 (1200 points) VS Hal Jordan, Kilowog, Guy Gardner, Green Construct (Mech Warrior), Weather Wizard (1200 points)

Spoiler Alert!

During the First Round: Army 1 wins Initiative (Manhunter’s choose Kilowog).
ARMY 1: Arkillo/Corps Soldier2 move out.
ARMY 2: Weather Wizard fails on Arkillo.
ARMY 1: Arkillo/Corps Soldier1 advance (Fog Cover stops attacks).
ARMY 2: Kilowog flies out and slams Arkillo for 4 wounds, almost killing him in the resulting knockback (Manhunters move out).
ARMY 1: Arkillo uses up a marker for Eviscerate on Kilowog but only does 1 wound; Corps Soldier2 fails on Kilowog.
ARMY 2: Kilowog creates the Green Mech Warrior, uses up a Battery for Green Lantern Leadership, flies to safety, and takes a turn with the Mech Warrior who kills Arkillo.
LAVA FIELD: Weather Wizard and the Green Mech Warrior take a wound.

During the Second Round: Army 2 wins Initiative.
ARMY 2: Guy Gardner flies out and kills Manhunter3, then places a wound through Willful Overextend to put 1 wound on Manhunter2.
ARMY 1: Sinestro/Corps Soldier2 kill the Mech Warrior and remove one of Guy Gardner’s Batteries.
ARMY 2: Guy Gardner kills Manhunter2 and takes a wound to Overextend but fail on Corps Soldier2.
ARMY 1: Sinestro/Corps Soldier2 remove 2 of Guy Gardner’s Batteries (Sinestro loses one himself to his SA).
ARMY 2: Hal Jordan removes on of Sinestro’s Batteries.
ARMY 1: Turn lost on Manhunter2.
LAVA FIELD: with 4 figures on lava field, not one of them take damage.

During the Third Round: Army 2 wins Initiative.
ARMY 2: Hal Jordan uses Weather Wizard’s Blinding Rain to go after Manhunter1 and kill him.
ARMY 1: Turn lost on Manhunter1.
ARMY 2: Hal Jordan removes one of Sinestro’s Batteries.
ARMY 1: Turn lost on Manhunter1.
ARMY 2: Hal Jordan removes Sinestro’s last Battery.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow uses his SA to remove Guy Gardner’s last Battery and put a wound on him; Corps Soldier2 kills Guy Gardner.
LAVA FIELD: Hal Jordan and Scarecrow each take a wound.

During the Fourth Round: Army 2 wins Initiative.
ARMY 2: Hal Jordan puts 1 wound on Scarecrow.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow/Corps Soldier2 fail on Hal Jordan.
ARMY 2: Hal Jordan removes one of Scarecrow’s Batteries.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow/Corps Soldier2 put 1 wound on Hal Jordan.
ARMY 2: Kilowog uses his last Battery for Lantern Leadership, the removes one of Corps Soldier2’s Batteries.
ARMY 1: Sinestro/Corps Soldier2 put 2 wounds on Kilowog.
LAVA FIELD: Sinestro, Scarecrow, and Kilowog take a wound.

During the Fifth Round: Army 2 wins Initiative.
ARMY 2: Hal Jordan puts 1 wound on Sinestro.
ARMY 1: Sinestro kills Kilowog.
ARMY 2: Hal Jordan removes one of Scarecrow’s Batteries.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow puts a wound on Hal Jordan and removes one of his Batteries; Corps Soldier1 fails on Hal Jordan.
ARMY 2: Hal Jordan kills Sinestro.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow removes another of Hal Jordan’s Batteries; Corps Soldier1 removes one of Hal’s Batteries.
LAVA FIELD: Corps Soldier1 takes a wound.

During the Sixth Round: Army 1 wins Initiative.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow/Corps Soldier1 remove Hal Jordan’s last Battery.
ARMY 2: Hal Jordan fails.
ARMY 1: Scarecrow/Corps Sodlier1 kill Hal Jordan.
ARMY 2: Weather Wizard removes Scarecrow’s last Battery.
ARMY 1: Corps Soldier2 fails.
ARMY 2: Weather Wizard kills Scarecrow.
LAVA FIELD: Corps Soldier2 takes a wound.

During the Seventh Round: Army 2 wins Initiative.
ARMY 2: Weather Wizard fails.
ARMY 1: Corps Soldier1 kills Weather Wizard.

Both Sinestro Corps Soldiers, each with 1 wound.

Hope that helps, great design Flame Gryphon!

 

[Flame Gryphon]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

Thanks!

Yeah, looking at that it looks like he might end up having his point cost lowered a bit. I'll run some tests later today at different point costs to see what seems right.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

Yeah, I could see 230-240 (not lower) depending on what comes in on the last test.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

I'll slip one in tonight.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

I'll slip one in tonight.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

You'll get the results tomorrow.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane)


- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass


- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass


- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass


- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass


- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass


- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass


- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass


- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass


- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass


- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 240
- Give a brief overview. This was a pretty heated battle, but the Green Lanterns surfaced as the victors in the end.
Map: Hydra Base Gehanna
Units: Jonathan Crane, Arkillo, Sinistro, 4xSCS, 3xFire Ant(1500) Vs. Kilowog, Hal, Guy, Kyle, 1xConstruct, Zsaz(1500)

Spoiler Alert!

R1
Arkillo ate a SCS and Kilowog Burned a marker. Sinistro engaged Guy Burning a marker to Force opf FEar him twice to no avail.
R2
Kilowog burned marker and forced Sinistro to Burn a marker. Arkillo Eviscerated Kilowog for 1. Guy forced Jon to Burn a Marker, and then Guy took a wound to attack again, blocked. Sinistro Burned a marker and Force of Feared Kilowog out of the game. Hal gave Arkillo 2 from height and Jon whiffed.
R3
Guy took out Jon. Arkillo Eviscerated Hal for 1 and gave him another. OM on Jon. Hal took out Arkillo. Sinistro Burned a Marker to Force of Fear Guy causing him to Burn a marker and take 1.
R4
Sinistro disengaged for 1 and Guy took him out. Manhunter Drained Guy. OM on Sinistro.
R5
Guy gave Manhunter 1 and Manhunter forced Guy to Burn his last Marker. Manhunter took out Guy. Hal took out Manhunter.
R6
Hal took out a Fire Ant. Fire Ant Stung Hal to death and Zsaz took out a Fire Ant. SCS gave Zsaz 1. Construct Placed.
R7
SCS took out Zsaz and Kyle forced a SCS to Burn a marker. SCS disengaged for 1 and gave Kyle 1.
R8
Kyle knocked an SCS from height taking it out, OM SCS. Kyle forced a SCS to Burn a marker and a SCS gave Kyle 1. SCS forced Kyle to Burn a marker.
R9
Kyle gave a SCS 1. SCS forced Kyle to Burn a marker. Construct took out a SCS. SCS forced Kyle to Burn a Marker and Kyle forced a SCS to Burn a marker.
R10
SCS gave Kyle 1. Kyle foprced SCS to Burn last Marker. Construct took out SCS and Fire Ant.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Green Lanterns won with Kyle bearing 3 wounds and an Unwounded Construct.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 240-250
- Give a brief overview. This was a tough match up, won mostly by some amazing Hydra defense rolls and some risky playing with Red Skull.
Map: Hydra Base Gehanna
Units: Jonathan Crane, Red Skull, 4xHydra, 1x Fire Ant(800) Vs. Azrael, Man-Bat Assassins, Elite League Assasins, Talia, 2XHand, Ant-Man, 2XFire Ant(800)

Spoiler Alert!

R1
Advance.
R2
Jon gave Azrael 2 with his Murder of Crows. Hand gave Jon 2 and Hydra took out a Hand. Azrael forced Jon to Burn a marker.
R3
Jon gave Azrael 1 with his Murder of Crows and Azrael forced Scarecrow to burn a Marker and the Hand finished him off. OM on Jon and Azrael gave Red Skull 1+1 making him drop the Cosmic Cube. Hydra took out 2 Hand and REd Skull retrieved the Cosmic cube Healing 1 and gave Azrael his last wound and took out a Hand, and the Hand gave Red Skull 1 causing him to drop the Cosmic Cube.
R4
Fire Ants Stung Red Skull for 1 and the Hydra took out a Fire Ant and REd Skull Disengaged retrieving the Cosmic cube healing 1 and giving a Fire Ant 1 and took out the last 2 Hand with his Dual Luggers. OM on Hand, and Red Skull healed 1 and gave Ant-Man 1. OM on Hand, and Red Skull Healed 1 giving Talia 1 and took her out and made an ELA Vanish with his Dual Luggers.
R5
ELA gave Red Skull 1 causing him to drop the Cosmic Cube, and the Hydra made 2 ELA Vanish and took out 1 Man-Bat Assasin and Red Skull Disengaged taking 1 and retrieved the Cosmic Cube healing 1 and giving an ELA 1 and caused an ELA to Vanish with his Dual Luggers. The Hydra took out an ELA Redskull Healed 1 and gave a Man-Bat Assassin 1 and caused an ELA to Vanish with his Dual Luggers. The Hydra took out the last Man-Bat Assassin and Red Skull took out the last ELA with his Dual Luggers.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? The Terrorists won with an unwounded Red Skull and 16 Hydra Agents remaining.

If You're not careful with Jonathan, he will go down quickly, but if you can get a chance to attack with Murder of Crows before losing a marker, it definitely has that fear factor. Overall, I was originally concerned with him being a cheap Yellow Lantern, but I think it really works here, and I'd say put him at 240 and he's well balanced

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

With Viegon and Karat both suggesting a drop, 240 sounds like a good resting place to me.

 

[Flame Gryphon]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

With Viegon and Karat both suggesting a drop, 240 sounds like a good resting place to me.

Definitely agreed.

 

[Hahma]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

With Viegon and Karat both suggesting a drop, 240 sounds like a good resting place to me.

Definitely agreed.

 

[SirGalahad]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

 

[Flame Gryphon]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

Alright, so I didn't have time to do the full playtests, but I'm definitely happy with him at 240.

I propose we move to Final Editing at 240.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

yea.

 

[Hahma]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

yea

 

[johnny139]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

Yea

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

Yea

 

[A3n]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Playtestin

Yea

 

[SirGalahad]

Re: Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane)-VOTE for Final E

yea to editing

YELLOW POWER BATTERY 3
Start the game with 3 yellow Battery Markers on this card. Add one to this Yellow Lantern’s Move, Range, Attack, and Defense numbers for each yellow Battery Marker on this card.

YELLOW POWER SHIELD
Anytime this Yellow Lantern is attacked by an opponent’s figure and at least 1 skull is rolled, instead of rolling defense dice normally, you may remove one yellow Battery Marker from this card and ignore that attack.

MURDER OF CROWS SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 3. Attack 2.
After attacking with this special attack, you may attack with this special attack 1 additional time for each yellow Power Battery Marker on this card. Defending Figures that do not have the Fearless personality roll 1 fewer defense die against this special attack.

 

[Flame Gryphon]

Re: Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane)-VOTE for Final E

This passes to Final Editing.

So, I should be able to do the card today or tomorrow. Hopefully.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Final Edit

Nice!

 

[Flame Gryphon]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Final Edit

Cards in the OP.

 

[quozl]

Re: The Book of Yellow Lantern (Jonathan Crane) - Final Edit

Great job! Ha! Even the fog is yellow!