The Book of Winter Soldier (Team-Up)

[Arch-vile]

The Book of Winter Soldier (Team-Up)

C3G MARVEL SUPER SECRET EXCLUSIVE 87
THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER

Comic PDF

Mini PDF

The figure used for this unit is a Marvel Heroclix figure from the Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. set.
Its model number and name are #024 / Winter Soldier.​

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Character Bio - Formerly the sidekick to Captain America, Bucky Barnes was brought back from his supposed death as a brainwashed assassin called the Winter Soldier. Reformed by his friends, Bucky now fights alongside the Avengers.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-

• Q: What do the skulls do when you're defending with Cybernetic Southpaw?
• A: Typically nothing. But there are some interactions where it comes up, such as the Knockback Optional Rules.

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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:

• As a Human Soldier, Winter Soldier has these
  • Human Synergies,
  • Soldier Synergies, and
  • Human Soldier Synergies.
• As a figure with the Repentant personality, Winter Soldier has these Repentant Synergies.

Outgoing Synergy:

• Winter Soldier may bond with a chosen Agent or Soldier with his Military Duo special power.

Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:

• N/A

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

• Winter Soldier works well with Captain America, as Cybernetic Southpaw especially benefits from Cap's attack boost.
• Avengers faction strategy guide

-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

• Initial playtest: Arch-vile
• Second playtest: Ericth74
• Third playtest: FreshFoods
• Fourth playtest: Arkham
• Art: Comic, Figure, Background
• Art by japes

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

NAME = WINTER SOLDIER
SECRET IDENTITY = JAMES BARNES

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = SOLDIER
PERSONALITY = REPENTANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 6
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 240

MILITARY DUO
At the start of the game, choose another Unique Hero that is an Agent or Soldier you control. After revealing an Order Marker on the chosen Hero's card and taking a turn with that Hero, you may take a turn with Winter Soldier. You may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.

CYBERNETIC SOUTHPAW
When attacking or defending against an adjacent figure, Winter Soldier is considered to have the Super Strength special power, and you may count all blanks rolled as skulls.

GOT YOUR SIX
After an enemy figure within 6 clear sight spaces of Winter Soldier inflicts a wound on a figure you control with its attack, you may immediately reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card to roll an unblockable attack die against the attacking figure.

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

Comic Art:

Spoiler Alert!

Mini Pics:

Spoiler Alert!

The first mini with the domino mask is preferable, as he doesn't wear the facemask as a hero.

Japes's:

Bats's:

Background:

Spoiler Alert!

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

This is meant to be a heroic version of Winter Soldier. Ideally he'll team up with Cap or a Falcon (II) that's a soldier (which I have planned). The Agent callout is because he had a run partnering up with Black Widow as well.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

Fwiw, I was cool with the "Battle Buddy" title once you explained that it was referencing an official military term.

Edit: And got 215 on the calculator, so I think you're right there.

 

[johnny139]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

I find he doesn't really wear the face mask when he's in hero mode, just the domino mask, so I'd go with that one for the card.

Like roping in Agents here, and I like Repentant, since it lets you bring him into the Thunderbolts, which he briefly led... I don't think Songbird was on the team at the time so it doesn't quite work, but it was like 10 issues and not very good so whatever works.

Not sure if Buckshot is the right word for the second power, though I appreciate the pun. Isn't buckshot like a shotgun shell? I'm not a gun guy.

What do the skulls do when you're defending with Cybernetic Southpaw?

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

Not sure if Buckshot is the right word for the second power, though I appreciate the pun. Isn't buckshot like a shotgun shell? I'm not a gun guy.

Yeah, buckshot is a shotgun round. More of a pun than anything, I'm not sure what guns Bucky typically uses.

What do the skulls do when you're defending with Cybernetic Southpaw?

Nothing at all, it's just letting him defend with Super Strength. It's probably worth splitting the defend part to a second sentence to avoid confusion - I just worded it like this to save space.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

What do the skulls do when you're defending with Cybernetic Southpaw?

Nothing at all, it's just letting him defend with Super Strength. It's probably worth splitting the defend part to a second sentence to avoid confusion - I just worded it like this to save space.

It may have a few power interactions. Notably it's relevant with Knockback.

 

[Ronin]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

Like roping in Agents here, and I like Repentant, since it lets you bring him into the Thunderbolts, which he briefly led... I don't think Songbird was on the team at the time so it doesn't quite work, but it was like 10 issues and not very good so whatever works.

Songbird actually was on the team at the time - the book contrived to have the original line-up back together (minus Zemo). Felt a bit forced, but I did like Bucky leading the team.

 

[MrNobody]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

Yeah, I kinda like it as-is. If, later down the line, we want to give Bucky Cap a shield counterstrike, that would be a neat little hook.

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

Good call with Knockback. With that interaction I'd say keep the power working as-is and just adding a FAQ to explain the skulls aren't typically doing anything on defense.

Cool to hear Bucky's repentant personality makes sense for army building. I just threw it on there because it felt like a thematic personality for him.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

I like this. Definitely agree on using the domino mask mini, it has better pictures anyways so I was planning to use it here.

 

[Lazy Orang]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

Good call with Knockback. With that interaction I'd say keep the power working as-is and just adding a FAQ to explain the skulls aren't typically doing anything on defense.

Cool to hear Bucky's repentant personality makes sense for army building. I just threw it on there because it felt like a thematic personality for him.

I actually really like how Repentant's setting sail as a semi-common synergy personality, it's really cool. And even if he hadn't been a member of the Thunderbolts, not like Gamora or Razer are, so it works for me - just give it to characters for who it fits, and the synergies will be things that are thematic, if not in the 'this is something that happened' sense then in the 'this is a thing you can imagine happening in a storyline if these characters met and is some cool, wonky synergy' sense.

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

Good call on the knockback/skulls on defense interaction! I like how that works out on theme. Solid card overall. Big fan of the limited to one other figure bonding powers. He isn't actually toting a lot of offensive potential on his turn, so I can't imagine that bonding turn being all that expensive. I guess that's the only part that feels little off for me. A single ranged attack of 4 is pretty pedestrian for him. Not sure where to put it though. The unblockable ranged counterattack that protects allies instead of himself is pretty neat.

Here's a thought, what if he kicks it up a gear once his partner goes down. Something like this:

MILITARY DUO
At the start of the game, choose another Unique Hero that is an Agent or Soldier you control. After revealing an Order Marker on the chosen Hero's card and taking a turn with that Hero, you may take a turn with Winter Soldier. You may not take any additional turns with other figures you control. If the chosen figure is not in play, after revealing an Order Marker on this card, Winter Soldier may attack one additional time.

Then you get one attack with him and one attack with Black Widow while she's around, and if she goes down first then he starts giving you two attacks as long as he's fighting on his own (OM reveal).

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

He also counts blanks as skulls when adjacent and he'll often have a Captain America +1/+1, so it's a little more offense than it appears at first glance. Bonding figures like this are always a big boost to the figure they bond with so I try to keep their offense on the lower side. (The unblockable die also works when Bucky is wounded, not just his allies.)

I'm cool with that addition if other people like it. It's not something I think he needs, but getting angry after his buddy dies seems in character for Bucky.

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

Mis-read Buckshot. That does give him a little more dynamic offensive potential then.

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

COMPETITIVE REVIEW BOARD CHECKLIST

Spoiler Alert!

Efficiency- Check to see if your design is providing armies with turns/moves/etc. to a degree that would make it difficult or impossible for an opponent to keep up with your output.

1. Does your design allow itself or figures to move/attack/take a turn/etc. instead of/in addition to your normal turn for revealing an Order Marker? Is it granting these benefits to too broad a range of units? Does it combine with other powers to create overly long or powerful chains of actions?
Bonds with a single chosen Soldier/Agent.

2. Does your design allow you to take actions during an opponent's turn? Can it combine with other powers to create tediously long reactions to enemy actions or a restrictive environment?
Yep, one unblockable die per round if the opponent wounds a figure and he's within range of Winter Soldier. Nothing too crazy.

3. Does your design allow you to rearrange your Order Markers or otherwise bypass the costs of Order Marker requirements on the special powers of other figures?
No

4. Is your design doing anything outside of a player's turn, at the start or end of the round? Is the effect too powerful by itself or when combined with other powers?
No

5. Does your design have any powers that trigger anytime it moves as opposed to only when it moves normally on its turn? Will it be too efficient when combined with figures that grant extra moves to figures?
No

6. Is your design adding or subtracting from initiative rolls? Will it pair too easily with other figures that alter initiative or have powers triggering on the results of initiative rolls?
No

Potency- Check to see if your design is wounding/removing/etc. enemy figures, increasing the chances of other figures in your army doing so, or otherwise directly effecting the number of figures available to players to a degree that would make it difficult or impossible for an opponent to recover from.

1. Does your design have a chance to inflict wounds or destroy figures? Is it getting these chances too frequently or having to high a chance of success? Is the power balanced against expensive targets that can cause a massive swing in the game when destroyed?
Once a round only if it activates.

2. Is your design adding to the stats or 20-sided die rolls of other figures in your army? Is it a boosting a broad enough range of units effectively enough to become a 'mandatory' draft or inhibit future design space? Can it be combined with other boosts too easily?
No

3. Will your design benefit from stat boosts or other enhancement to an overpowering degree? Will it restrict future growth within its faction or point cost by limiting available boosts to others?
By design his Cybernetic Southpaw power benefits from stat boosts, but he's only got a single attack, so it's not a huge boost or anything.

4. Does your design take control of enemy figures permanently or temporarily? Is it too difficult to for your opponent to regain control of their figure or recover from the losing the figure? Does the method of taking control expose the enemy figure to the powers of other figures in your army that can easily destroy it?
No

5. Can your design heal itself or others or revive itself or others? Is it doing so in a way that an opponent cannot hope to overcome in certain scenarios?
No

6. Does your design place enemy figures on its card or otherwise have an unconventional method of temporarily removing enemy figures from play? Will it guarantee your victory against a single remaining enemy figure?
No

Chicanery- Check to see if your design is preventing your opponent from taking actions with too much ease or is otherwise causing negative play experience through tactics that make your opponent feel you're 'not playing fair'

1. Does your design restrict the movement of enemy figures, or allow you to move enemy figures? Can it do so in a way that results in an unwinnable scenario for your opponent if they are down to one figure, posses only figures with a range of 1, etc.? Can your design easily combine with other figures to greatly impede enemy figures or otherwise gain an excessive advantage?
No

2. Does your design effect/change the placement of an enemy's Order Markers, or remove their Order Markers entirely? Can it force Order Markers to go onto cards that have no figures on the battlefield? Can your design easily combine with other figures to completely dictate the placement of an enemy's Order Markers or remove all of their Order Markers?
No

3. Does your design inhibit your opponent from attacking your figures or make attacking a losing proposition? Are there scenarios or combinations that make your opponent totally unable to harm your figures through attacking?
No

4. Does your design directly negate the powers of enemy figures or otherwise ignore them in a way that can completely disrupt the opponent's strategy or leave them feeling like they are stuck playing figures without special powers?
No

5. Does your design become overly powerful in a podded group of figures, or provide significant benefit to your army without leaving your Start Zone?
No

6. You can attack your own figures in Heroscape, does your design have any powers that will trigger off of doing so or otherwise wounding/destroying your own figures? Is this intentional on your part? Will the design be too efficient or potent when doing so?
No

CONSISTENCY CHECKLIST (LONG FORM)

Spoiler Alert!

1. Are the character’s name and secret identity listed in a consistent format with the rest of the project? If the character shares a name and/or secret identity with another character is it properly clear whether or not they are the same character?
Consistent.

2. Consider the listed Species. Are the design’s power level, point level, and statistics (life, move, range, attack, and defense numbers) within the established range for that species? If it’s an outlier, is there thematic justification for this?
Consistent with other Humans with guns

3. Consider the listed Uniqueness. Does the power text properly reflect whether the figure is a Hero or a squad, and whether it is Event, Unique, Uncommon, or common? If it’s Event, are the powers written with consideration for Event Hero rules? If it’s Uncommon, are the powers written to avoid stacking? If it’s common, are the powers written with this in mind?
Unique Hero

4. Consider the Class and Personality. For each, is it a reuse? If so, is the character thematically consistent with other members of that Class or Personality? If not, is there a preexisting Class or Personality that would fit as well that could be used instead? Are there any existing synergies with that Class or Personality that are undesirable or that this Design would create that would be undesirable for preexisting members of that Class or Personality?
Soldier - he's the Winter Soldier, and the synergy is desired
Repentant - he's a Thunderbolt and he is remorseful for his time as an assassin

5. Consider the listed Size. If the figure is double based, is it Large or Huge? Is the chosen miniature’s physical size consistent with other miniatures in the chosen size category? Consider the listed Height. If you stack hexes up next to the figure, does the number listed for the height match up the layers of stacked hexes that match the miniature’s physical height?
Medium 5, all good.

7. Consider the listed Life number. Is this number consistent with other figures of the same species?
4-5 life is standard for Humans. 5 is consistent with Winter Soldier (I).

8. Consider the listed Move number. Is this number consistent with other figures of that power level?
5-6 move is typical for humans. Could go down to 5 but I like him being able to keep up with Cap for gameplay and thematic reasons (Winter Soldier is slightly enhanced compared to normal humans in both the comics and MCU).

9. Consider the listed Range and Attack numbers. Is this number consistent with other figures that use the same type of weapon or power to attack?
Pretty consistent with other gun users.

10. Consider the listed Defense number. Is this number consistent with other figures of the same or similar species and with the same or similar armor or other defensive equipment?
5 defense is not unusual for someone of his weight class and is consistent with Winter Soldier (I).

11. Does the figure have Super Strength? If it does or doesn’t, was this determined on the standard of that character demonstrating three things: A. The ability to throw a car B. The ability to survive a fall from a tall building and C. The ability to knock back another person when punching them?
Super strength when attacking only, as I believe only C is true from that group. Winter Soldier (I) doesn't have Super Strength.

12. Examine all of the special powers. Are there other powers that fit the same theme already in existence in the project? If so, can they be reused? If they can’t, can those other powers be used as a basis for the mechanics and wording?
3 new powers here, wording has been based on existing powers.

13. Examine any movement powers. Do they keep the figure’s speed consistent with other figures of their species and power level?
N/A

14. Examine any offensive powers. Do they keep the figure’s offensive potential consistent with other figures with the same powers and power levels or skills and weaponry?
yes

15. Examine any defensive, healing, or other tanking powers. Do they keep the figure’s survivability consistent with other figures of the same powers or power level or species and armor class?
no defensive powers

16. Examine any leadership powers. Do they exceed the activation potential of the best existing leaders? If so, is there thematic justification for this?
N/A

17. Consider any powers that reference darkness, electrical, figure movement, fire, gas, ice, kryptonite, light/sensory, magical, poison, psychic, stealth, or water-based abilities. Do these behave in similar ways to other powers of this type, including mentions of immunities?
N/A

18. Is it clear for all special powers what phase of the turn and how they are triggered, what phase of the turn they are active in, and when and how they cease being active?
Should be clear

19. Are special powers listed in game, round, and turn order?
I'll switch the bottom two powers.

20. If a special power includes a D20 roll, does it make sense to list a number by the title?
N/A

21. If a power is being reused, are the title and wording copied accurately?
N/A

22. Has the power title or a very similar one been used before with vastly different mechanics?
Military Duo is named as such because Rogue Duo is a very similar power.

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)

I'll propose for initial playtesting.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (vote for initial playte

yea

 

[japes]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (vote for initial playte

yea

 

[Arkham]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (vote for initial playte

yea

 

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (vote for initial playte

yea

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (vote for initial playte

This passes

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (waiting for initial)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Winter Soldier (II)

Army Test
Map: A Couple Puddles
Units: Winter Soldier (II) (210), Captain America C3G, Sgt. Rock, U.S. Agent (855) VS Gorilla Grodd 2, Stilt-Man, Doctor Light, Green Goblin (855)

Spoiler Alert!

Winter Solder chooses Captain America for Military Duo. Initially Doctor Light and Green Goblin lead out. Cap and Bucky move up, then Sgt. Rock moves out and bonds with Bucky. Captain America’s and Sgt. Rock’s attack boost combined with Cybernetic Southpaw makes for some solid offensive power. Ultimately the soldiers just had much better turn efficiency this game. Sgt. Rock plus Winter Soldier meant the team was always getting two attacks per turn. Eventually Grodd’s cronies took out Captain America, then Grodd himself took out Sgt. Rock before falling.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Winter Soldier (1 wound), U.S. Agent (0 wounds) win.

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Army Test
Map: A Couple Puddles
Units: Winter Soldier (II) (220), Captain America C3G, Punisher (670) VS Doc Ock 2, Rhino, Kraven (670)

Spoiler Alert!

Winter Solder chooses Captain America for Military Duo. Kraven hunts Captain America. Punisher lays down some initial fire, but the Sinister 6 outmuscle the Avengers initially. Punisher falls, then Bucky shrugs off some heavy blows while he and Cap put a couple wounds on Rhino. The Sinister 6 take out Bucky, then Cap is overwhelmed by their combined firepower.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Doc Ock (0 wounds), Kraven (1 wound), Rhino (3 wounds) win.

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Army Test
Map: A Couple Puddles
Units: Winter Soldier (II) (220), Black Widow, Hawkeye 3 (610) VS Blacksmith, Golden Glider, Captain Cold 1, Trickster 1, Captain Boomerang 2 (610)

Spoiler Alert!

Winter Solder chooses Black Widow for Military Duo. Golden Glider chooses Captain Cold for Rogue Duo. The Rogues can’t land a hit initially while the Agents whittle down Captain Cold’s health. But then Captain Cold has godly defense dice and the Rogues land a few hits. Blacksmith takes out Black Widow. The Rogues then take out Winter Soldier. They’ve dealt enough damage for Hawkeye to stand a chance in cleanup, though. Hawkeye solos Blacksmith, Captain Boomerang, and Trickster before Golden Glider finally takes him down.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Golden Glider (1 wound) wins.

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Winter Soldier is a nice figure for any Soldier army. He’s definitely better in a Soldier build with Captain America and Sgt. Rock - with that army, it is really difficult to optimize a first target as the opponent. Sgt. Rock and Cap are difficult to kill, and both boost their allies and bond. Cybernetic Southpaw is especially brutal when boosted by Sgt. Rock and Cap.

In other armies, Winter Soldier felt like a solid addition but nothing too crazy, he’s just a bonding hero with average attack. Tactical Buckshot can get some autowounds if you’re lucky. I’m happy with 220 so far taking all the results into consideration.

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (waiting for initial)

I propose for public testing