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The Book of Venom

Firemaster

Firemaster

Raconteur Extraordinaire
The Book of Venom
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If you cannot see the Army Card graphic, check Hasbro's Unit Page for stats and special powers, plus "character biography" and other non-game unit info.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • The 'S' symbol.
    The 'S' symbol in the lower left-hand corner of the card signifies this figure has Superstrength. A figure with Superstrength is immune to Falling and Major Falling; the figure is not immune to Extreme Falling however. A figure with Superstrength is also able to ignore any abilities a destructible object has that would give it automatic shields. (Firemaster)

    - WEB SPECIAL ATTACK : Using it on a figure with 0 defense
    If I use Web Special Attack on a figure that has 0 defense dice, do they get any extra damage because they should be rolling –1 defense dice?
    A figure cannot roll less than 0 defense dice. (Hasbro FAQ)
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Synergy Benefits Received
Marvel:
  • TBA
Classic:
  • TBA

Synergy Benefits Offered
Marvel:
  • N/A
Classic:
  • N/A
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

  • - TBA




Unit Strategy Review
 
I've warmed up to Venom. Think of it this way - when Spidey avoids an attack, he swings away, out of range. When Venom avoids an attack, he laughs insanely and swings towards his aggressor, then proceding to beat the everloving snot out of him. Plus, his sculpt looks awesome. :D
 
Each of the pairs of characters in Marvelscape are supposed to be Hero/Villain, but Venom's class is Vigilante. This representation of Venom was the Hero, not the Villain.


:2cents:
 
Dartheyegouger said:
Each of the pairs of characters in Marvelscape are supposed to be Hero/Villain, but Venom's class is Vigilante. This representation of Venom was the Hero, not the Villain.


:2cents:
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Vigilantes don't have to be good guys. That term doesn't mean they are fighting for the right side. :)
 
Thought they don't have to be completely "good", vigilante does mean taking the law into one's own hands and fighting crime so it wouldn't apply to outright criminals. I think the version of Venom they were going for was the current one in the Thunderbolts, who is supposedly a "good" guy.
 
GreyOwl said:
Thought they don't have to be completely "good", vigilante does mean taking the law into one's own hands and fighting crime so it wouldn't apply to outright criminals. I think the version of Venom they were going for was the current one in the Thunderbolts, who is supposedly a "good" guy.
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Nope. The sculpt is totally different. The Heroscape Venom is definitely Eddie Brock. Look at the box art. He's fighting Spider-Man.
 
Venom has been a vigilante for a long time. And even had his own book for awhile. But that did'nt stop him and Spider-man from clashing.

We'll find out if this is supposed to be the one in Thunderbolts or not when/if they release a bio. Since the one in Thunderbolts is Mac Gargan, the guy that used to be the Scorpion.

Personally, even if they do make him Gargan, which i doubt, he'll always be Eddie Brock to me in the game.
 
From the other thread on this:

Eclipse said:
Venom's always been a vigilante, even before lethal protector. It's just that 90% of the time, he thinks Peter Park is about the worst criminal in the city.
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Also, this is definitely the Eddie Brock Venom. The Gargan Venom has visible eyes inside the while area and a significantly different looking chest design. The flat eyes and black costume spider pattern were only on the Eddie Brock version.
 
Vigilantes may fight crime, but it doesn't have to be for good reasons....one criminal could pay a vigilante to kill other criminals and eliminate his competition. The term doesn't indicate he isn't a villain.
 
Well the main thing about Venom in this set is that he doens't really like any of these heroes. Also (Eddie Brock) Venom isn't mentally stable. We've seen him flip flop on the side of good and evil several times. Each time its been for his own benefit. And since you can make the armies anyway you like, just come up with your own reason as to why Venom is doing what he is doing.
 
Also I wish that they had a power that dealt with the symbiote. Also Venom negates Spidey's Spider sense. I just wish they gave Venom a different power to help seperate them a bit.
 
Just because a character is evil, there's no obligation to represent that in the class box. Abomination is a Creature, Red Skull a Mastermind, Doom a Ruler, and Thanos a Conqueror. Except maybe for Conqueror, there are good superheroes who could use all of those descriptions accurately. none of them are really perjorative.

In Classic, Hawthorne's class is still Champion, and Isamu's class is still Ninja, despite the fact that they side with Utgar. The Vampires are a Lord, Lady, Devourer, and Duchess, and only a few of the worst creatures, like zombies and shades, are Devourers. Really, Devourer is about the only truly bad thing I can find for a class. The idea that an evil character needs an evil class seems way off base to me.
 
Also I wish that they had a power that dealt with the symbiote
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They could have done alot of things, with alot of the heros they picked. But I think they had to draw the line somewhere, or they wouldn't have room left on the cards, and the points would be thru the roof.

That being said.... It would have been cool if Venom had something similar to the Viking Champions, where the symbiote went to another hero. I might have to do that as a scenario.... :ponder:
 
Argent, check out my Symbiote Spiderman, it does just that, also around page 6 or so, there was a very nice discussion about a Symbiote Glyph.
 
Honestly though, the Symbiote attaching itself to a new host when Venom is defeated isn't really that common of an occurrence. it's happened a few times, but for the most part, when Venom goes down the Symbiote stays with Brock. Usually when it finds a new host its because it was forcibly removed from Brock and needs someone to help it find it's other half again.
 
I think the Glyph and Scenario idea would be best for having the Symbiote move around a lot, you would not want to have Venom in such a game though, it wouldn't make much sense. But could be fun to have the Symbiote hop from character to character.

For Venom as a character I think the bond is too strong to have the Symbiote move much, unlike Spiderman who was too different from the Symbiote.
 
Lotus said:
I think the Glyph and Scenario idea would be best for having the Symbiote move around a lot, you would not want to have Venom in such a game though, it wouldn't make much sense. But could be fun to have the Symbiote hop from character to character.

For Venom as a character I think the bond is too strong to have the Symbiote move much, unlike Spiderman who was too different from the Symbiote.
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Spiderman's bond wasn't as strong not because they were too different really, he just didn't spend enough time with it. Besides, the Symbiote didn't leave Peter because they were defeated, Peter forcibly rejected it. Had he just been knocked out the Symbiote would have stayed put, probably even acted to protect him. I don't think there have been many situations where the Symbiotes have abandoned ship in general. They're really pretty loyal things overall.
 
Hmm, that is true, but would be hard to play, it is much easier to play that it abandons when they are defeated.
 
I'd proably do something like the Hulk scenario in the rulebook but have it be venom, and unless he's "killed" by someone with a certain glyph, then the symbiote attaches intself to someone else (enemy unit) instead of dying. needs tweaking, but sounds cool in the initial thought.
 
They could have done alot of things, with alot of the heros they picked. But I think they had to draw the line somewhere, or they wouldn't have room left on the cards, and the points would be thru the roof.

That being said.... It would have been cool if Venom had something similar to the Viking Champions, where the symbiote went to another hero. I might have to do that as a scenario.... :ponder:[/quote]

Oh don't get me wrong I understand that they don't want to overdue anything. But I just wished that they made Venom a little different than Spidey. Even if they just changed special web attack to read symbiote tendril special attack. I would have been happy. And I apologize for being so critical. I'm just a huge comic fan.
 
If a squad such as the 4th Mass where to attack Venom / Spiderman, would you get to roll to leave the engagement for each figure that fires at you that got at least one skull?
 
thestaton said:
If a squad such as the 4th Mass where to attack Venom / Spiderman, would you get to roll to leave the engagement for each figure that fires at you that got at least one skull?
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Venom/Spider-man does not need to be engaged to use Spider/Spidey Sense. Yes, they get to roll each time they are attacked and a skull is rolled. That goes for attacks from multiple squad figures or single figures that can attack multiple times.
 
ChaosChild said:
thestaton said:
If a squad such as the 4th Mass where to attack Venom / Spiderman, would you get to roll to leave the engagement for each figure that fires at you that got at least one skull?
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Venom/Spider-man does not need to be engaged to use Spider/Spidey Sense. Yes, they get to roll each time they are attacked and a skull is rolled. That goes for attacks from multiple squad figures or single figures that can attack multiple times.
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"He who is Huge" is correct - Spiderman / Venom get to roll for Spider Sense everytime they're attacked and a skull is rolled. However, if either one of them is engaged when they begin to move away after successfully rolling for Spider Sense, their opponent will not get any leaving engagement rolls, because they may move using their Swing Line special power which ignores leaving engagement attacks.
 
Erm... I have I question about Venom and Spidey. I was playing with venom and attacked him with a special attack. Can he use his spider sense against special attacks or can he not? I'm sorry if I should have started a new thread for this.
 
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