The Book of Tandros Kreel

[spiteofthedice]

The Book of Tandros Kreel

Master Set III - Battle for the Underdark
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If you cannot see the Army Card graphic, check Hasbro's Unit Page for stats and special powers, plus "character biography" and other non-game unit info.

CHARACTER BIO (from back of box) : Tandros's skill with the greatsword is matched only by his bravery on the battlefield. He stands against the forces of evil with great confidence, allowing no enemy to slip past his guard.

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-Rulings and Clarifications-

Combat Challenge vs. Multiple Attacks vs. "Affected Figures":
Q. Under what conditions does Tandros's Combat Challenge prevent a figure being attacked?:

A. Adjacency to Tandros Kreel only prevents an opponent's figure from "targetting" other figures with any Attacks. Attacks that affect other figures in addition to the target may still do so as long as Tandros is the target of the Attack. A single attack that allows choosing additional figures relative to the target to be selectively affected by the attack (e.g. Othkurik's Acid Spray SA or Gurei-Oni's Tetsubo SA) may still affect additional figures in addition to the target. Likewise, area-effect attacks which affect all figures adjacent to the target (e.g. Jotun's Wild Swing SA, or DW9K's Explosion SA), may affect figures adjacent to Tandros.

However, opponent figures with multiple Attacks (e.g. Major Q10 or Kaemon Awa), may not target any other figures with separate Attacks while Tandros is still engaged.

In the case of Pelloth's Lolth's Wrath SA, which does not specifically "target" any figure, if Tandros Kreel is adjacent to Pelloth, Tandros would need to be destroyed before any wounds could be applied to other figures.

A Great Deal of Kreel
Q. In a multi-player game, when engaged with two opponents' Tandros Kreels, how do I decide which Kreel to Attack?
A. The card states that the engaged figure may only Attack "Tandros Kreel," not "this figure" (well-put, KC). You may choose which opponent's Tandros Kreel to Attack. And good luck killing both of them. Seriously.

Tandros vs. Dinosaur
Q. If Tandros is adjacent to an opponent's Grimnak, may Grimnak use CHOMP against a different adjacent figure?
A. Yes. Chomp is a special ability, not an attack.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Synergy Benefits Received

N/A
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Synergy Benefits Offered

- SACRED BAND : Disciplined Army Defense Bonus
Having a Disciplined personality, Tandros Kreel may aid the Sacred Band with their DISCIPLINED ARMY DEFENSE BONUS.​

C3V and SoV Custom Synergies

Spoiler Alert!

Synergy Benefits Offered

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Synergy Benefits Received

COUNT RAYMOND : MANEUVER 9
As a Human who follow Einar, Tandros Kreel may benefit from Count Raymond's MANEUVER 9 ability.

EBON ARMOR : ANIMATED MATERIEL & ETERNAL WAR
As a Unique Human figure, a destroyed Ebon Armor you control may be placed on Tandros Kreel's Army Card to replace Tandros Kreel upon his own destruction.
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

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-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

Tandros Kreel Pre-Release Discussion Thread

Power Ranking and Master Index

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Unit Strategy Review

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[Creationist]

This guy is the bulkiest of the bunch, which is sad with only 4 defense. 7 life is fantastic however. He seems to be the sort-of all around adventurer character. His squad killing power is pretty sweet.

 

[vertigosmooth]

Man I think 4 defense and 7 life should make this guy pretty hard to kill. He is one of my favs from the new set so far, even without bonding his taunt ability makes him very interesting. Stick this guy next to Q9 and he's in trouble(just make sure you have some squads close enough to close the gap).


Dustin

 

[pixlepix]

Tandros kreel
Bacon
ratsx3
KMA
SBN
filler
600 points
Rats go out, grab glyphs and entangle ranged units. The rest of the armyy advances to a hill. KMA snipe. SBN atacks heroes under Kreel's protection. Kreel defends SBN and KMA.

 

[Vilsara]

Does SBN stand for Su-Bak-Na in this case? I bet you could find something a bit bulkier for 160 points... it also eats up a lot of your points (280) to have a combination like that. it could work given Tandros' protection, but we'll need testing anyway.

 

[Nukatha]

So, in the event of Tandros being engaged with the likes of Nilfheim or Captain America, what happens with the special attack?

Does the first attack need to be directed at Tandros, with the others at any target?

The same goes for 'Double Attack'.

 

[spiteofthedice]

So, in the event of Tandros being engaged with the likes of Nilfheim or Captain America, what happens with the special attack?

Does the first attack need to be directed at Tandros, with the others at any target?

The same goes for 'Double Attack'.

I want an official ruling before I put it in the Book. But it seems obvious to me that the spirit of the power is that Tandros draws all attention to himself. I would guess that multiple attacks would all need to be directed at Tandros. Since you can't do that with Nilf (or Capt? I can't remember) you would forfeit the additional attacks.

 

[Nukatha]

In general, with the aforementioned special attacks, what happens when they are engaged to someone without Tandros's power?

 

[pixlepix]

Does SBN stand for Su-Bak-Na in this case? I bet you could find something a bit bulkier for 160 points... it also eats up a lot of your points (280) to have a combination like that. it could work given Tandros' protection, but we'll need testing anyway.

He is there because Tandros compliments his weak defense. And tandros can defend the karv.

 

[kafkaesque]

It's the same ruling as with engagement. If Nilfheim is engaged to a figure and doesn't destroy it with the first Ice Shard Breath Special Attack, he forfeits the rest.

 

[Rich10]

Using the matchup calculator, I put Tandros up against some Heroscape (mostly) melee opponents.

Against Carr, Carr wins 53% of the time.
Tandros beats Concan 71% of the time.
Tandros beats Crixus 52% of the time.
Grimnak wins 73% of the time (Grimnak's going to be good against all of the DnD master set figures).
Krug wins an amazing 97% of the time (Krug's going to be good against the DnD master set figures).
Tandros beats Migol 52% of the time.
Tandros eeks out Ne-Gok-Sa by winning 50.3% of the time.
Tandros beats Retarius 64% of the time.
Tandros beats Sir Denrick 71% of the time.
Tandros beats Warden 816 72% of the time.

Overall, he's a good melee fighter.

 

[Warlord Alpha]

Is that assuming that he is using 4 attack at 1 range the whole time?

 

[GromBloodboy]

Carr will get him because of the stronger attack. Tandros's abilties are negated except for +2 Broadsword. Carr has Phantom walk, and a stronger attack becuase of SoR.

 

[Rich10]

Is that assuming that he is using 4 attack at 1 range the whole time?

It assumes that all battles are melee.

 

[Taeblewalker]

From the book of Hatamoto Toro:

- ADJACENT TOUGH 1 : Figures That Follow Einar
When rolling defense, any adjacent unit that follows Einar may aid Hatamoto Taro through ADJACENT TOUGH 1 defense bonus.

 

[spiteofthedice]

From the book of Hatamoto Toro:

- ADJACENT TOUGH 1 : Figures That Follow Einar
When rolling defense, any adjacent unit that follows Einar may aid Hatamoto Taro through ADJACENT TOUGH 1 defense bonus.

The faction-wide synergies generally don't go in the books, otherwise Hatamoto would be in every Einar Book. If you check around, he's not. Thanks for the heads-up though, TW.

~Spite

 

[Taeblewalker]

From the book of Hatamoto Toro:

- ADJACENT TOUGH 1 : Figures That Follow Einar
When rolling defense, any adjacent unit that follows Einar may aid Hatamoto Taro through ADJACENT TOUGH 1 defense bonus.

The faction-wide synergies generally don't go in the books, otherwise Hatamoto would be in every Einar Book. If you check around, he's not. Thanks for the heads-up though, TW.

~Spite

In that case, ignore my similar comment about Ornak in the Othkurik book.

 

[Taeblewalker]

At first it bothered me that the player controlling Tandros had no choice but to always have the enemy attack him instead of attacking an ally of Tandros' that was also adjacent to the attacking figure. Then I realized that even if the player controlling Tandros could turn the power on and off at will, any time that you would want the opponent to be free to attack someone other than Tandros, your opponent would probably elect to attack him anyway. For example, if Tandros was very wounded, or if Krug was the other potential target. Therefore, it seems a moot point to worry about letting the player controlling Tandros have a switch on the power.

Overall, great design! I just wish he had Broadsword +3...

 

[GromBloodboy]

I just thought about this, and am happy to know it now. This guy will be a complete murder against armies that feature expensive melee squads (Minions and Sentinels) and some cheaper units such as knights. By killing a knight, you can designate to kill the more expensive and better defensive fig without rolling to hit them. Might have been obvious before, but felt like I should state it. This guy is just, at least for me, a total anti-squad hero.

 

[Kroc]

Rev kindly requests that pre-release speculation go into the thread Tai-pan created for this purpose.

 

[spiteofthedice]

Alright, I've proxied him.

He is a beast (not literally, put the arrow gruts away).

The great thing about 7 Lives and a 4 Defense is that ALL his abilities have time to come into play. I sent him off on his own while the rest of the party set up. He was able to knock some Drow heads in, once with Broadsword, put some hurt on a troll and then bring himself back to the group to lock up Pelloth so Erevan could move in (Erevan, who is also getting more garbage than he deserves).

He is strong enough to stand on his own and still get back to boost the group. Wow.

Versatility is what you get with Tandros. He is hearty enough to play in any number of ways, in any number of terrain/army/opponent situations. My main reaction to having tried him out is that I can't wait to take him out of the DnD scene and play him against some Romans or Orcs. I think he can definitely stand up to ranged attacks, but he also makes the melee-battle a LOT more powerful. And with room to move, he can fight on his own, help other figures, pretty much whatever the heck you want him to do. He's got the stats for it.

~Spite, hoping for a squad that follows a human Fighter

 

[padlock]

I've got a question about combat challenge. Under what conditions does it prevent a figure being attacked. Say figure A is engaged to both Tandros and figure B. Assume also that Tandros and figure B are adjacent. Can figure A attack figure B under the following conditions:

1. if they have multiple attacks and have already attacked Tandros this turn (i.e. Q10 or Kaemon Awa first attacking Tandros and then attacking figure B)?

2. if they have a single attack that allows them to choose additional figures to be affected (i.e. Othkurik's acid spray or Gueri-Oni's Tetsubo)?

3. if they have an area of effect attack which affects all adjacent figures (ie. Jotun's wild swing, or DW9K's explosion)?

 

[Sujoah]

I've got a question about combat challenge. Under what conditions does it prevent a figure being attacked. Say figure A is engaged to both Tandros and figure B. Assume also that Tandros and figure B are adjacent. Can figure A attack figure B under the following conditions:

1. if they have multiple attacks and have already attacked Tandros this turn (i.e. Q10 or Kaemon Awa first attacking Tandros and then attacking figure B)?

2. if they have a single attack that allows them to choose additional figures to be affected (i.e. Othkurik's acid spray or Gueri-Oni's Tetsubo)?

3. if they have an area of effect attack which affects all adjacent figures (ie. Jotun's wild swing, or DW9K's explosion)?

I would think that 2 and 3 would work, but I'm not part of the rules team. It would probably be a good idea to get an official ruling on this.

 

[Bonecrusher]

I've got a question about combat challenge. Under what conditions does it prevent a figure being attacked. Say figure A is engaged to both Tandros and figure B. Assume also that Tandros and figure B are adjacent. Can figure A attack figure B under the following conditions:

1. if they have multiple attacks and have already attacked Tandros this turn (i.e. Q10 or Kaemon Awa first attacking Tandros and then attacking figure B)?

2. if they have a single attack that allows them to choose additional figures to be affected (i.e. Othkurik's acid spray or Gueri-Oni's Tetsubo)?

3. if they have an area of effect attack which affects all adjacent figures (ie. Jotun's wild swing, or DW9K's explosion)?

1. No
2. Yes, but Tandros has to be targeted first, then another figure can be targeted.
3. Jotun's swing requires you to select a figure to attack (has to be Tandros). Any other figures are also attacked. In general, yes.

 

[Taeblewalker]

I've got a question about combat challenge. Under what conditions does it prevent a figure being attacked. Say figure A is engaged to both Tandros and figure B. Assume also that Tandros and figure B are adjacent. Can figure A attack figure B under the following conditions:

1. if they have multiple attacks and have already attacked Tandros this turn (i.e. Q10 or Kaemon Awa first attacking Tandros and then attacking figure B)?

2. if they have a single attack that allows them to choose additional figures to be affected (i.e. Othkurik's acid spray or Gueri-Oni's Tetsubo)?

3. if they have an area of effect attack which affects all adjacent figures (ie. Jotun's wild swing, or DW9K's explosion)?

1. No
2. Yes, but Tandros has to be targeted first, then another figure can be targeted.
3. Jotun's swing requires you to select a figure to attack (has to be Tandros). Any other figures are also attacked. In general, yes.

If 3 didn't work, then Explosion and Rain of Fire wouldn't work either.
I expect that double attack, whirlwind attack and special attacks like Acid Spray from Othkurik, Nilf's Ice Shards or Kaemon Awa's Quick Release would be limited to just Tandros unless he was killed by the first attack, even if the other potential targets were next to the attacker.