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The Book of Superman (Kal-El)
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UtgarsWorstFear
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Re: The Book of Superman
Ok, so i guess where my problem lies is in the situations where he is adjacent to the originally attacked figure, but behind him (in relation to the attacker). Yes Superman is defending but it just seems as if the bullets are hitting supermans space, and there was no heroic swoop. The way I play (and see it) is Superman flew to the figures space that he is saving, blocked the shot for him, and landed next to him.
Do you see how it can look like the attacker was forced to attack Superman not because he was saving him, but because he was forced to shoot him?
Edit: not because superman was saving the originally attacked figure*
Ok, so i guess where my problem lies is in the situations where he is adjacent to the originally attacked figure, but behind him (in relation to the attacker). Yes Superman is defending but it just seems as if the bullets are hitting supermans space, and there was no heroic swoop. The way I play (and see it) is Superman flew to the figures space that he is saving, blocked the shot for him, and landed next to him.
Do you see how it can look like the attacker was forced to attack Superman not because he was saving him, but because he was forced to shoot him?
Edit: not because superman was saving the originally attacked figure*
UtgarsWorstFear
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Re: The Book of Superman
Ok then, i guess no one else sees it, which is all that matters lol.
Ok then, i guess no one else sees it, which is all that matters lol.
UtgarsWorstFear
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Re: The Book of Superman
Ok, and if Superman is not able to get adjacent to the attacked figure does he just not get to defend or does he just have to get as close as possible and still defend?
Ok, and if Superman is not able to get adjacent to the attacked figure does he just not get to defend or does he just have to get as close as possible and still defend?
Drewman-chu
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Re: The Book of Superman
I get what UtgarsworstFears is saying but I am not sure it could be or should changed or fixed. The power would have to designate a adjacent hex that is in front of or in between the target figure and the attacker. I came up a similar power idea for a power but it was for a Zabu custom to protect Kazar. It's a great concept but the game mechanics can get in the way. It does seem a little odd that Superman could be directly behind the target figure but deflecting the attack, but I'm not sure how it could be fixed. You can also view it as Superman deflects the attack and then lands on any adjacent space. That's how I envisioned my power working. Is that correct? I guess one fix could be Superman takes the target figures space and bumps the figure to an adjacent one. Just so you know I am not advocating to change the wording on the existing card just considering other options for future reference.
I get what UtgarsworstFears is saying but I am not sure it could be or should changed or fixed. The power would have to designate a adjacent hex that is in front of or in between the target figure and the attacker. I came up a similar power idea for a power but it was for a Zabu custom to protect Kazar. It's a great concept but the game mechanics can get in the way. It does seem a little odd that Superman could be directly behind the target figure but deflecting the attack, but I'm not sure how it could be fixed. You can also view it as Superman deflects the attack and then lands on any adjacent space. That's how I envisioned my power working. Is that correct? I guess one fix could be Superman takes the target figures space and bumps the figure to an adjacent one. Just so you know I am not advocating to change the wording on the existing card just considering other options for future reference.
GreyOwl
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Re: The Book of Superman
I think a hex has more room than is needed by a single figure. Powers like Ghost Walk/Phantom Walk hint at this, since not all figures with those powers can actually move through other figures like ghosts. So if we accept that premise, then Superman is moving into the same hex as his ally, defending against the attack, and then moving to an adjacent space to end his movement. It makes no difference if that adjacent space is in front of or behind the figure.
I think a hex has more room than is needed by a single figure. Powers like Ghost Walk/Phantom Walk hint at this, since not all figures with those powers can actually move through other figures like ghosts. So if we accept that premise, then Superman is moving into the same hex as his ally, defending against the attack, and then moving to an adjacent space to end his movement. It makes no difference if that adjacent space is in front of or behind the figure.
Drewman-chu
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Re: The Book of Superman
See my above edited post. People can misinterpret things. I was looking at the literal power wording and trying to see it as Utgarsworstfears was viewing it.
Sorry Bats I did not see this post.
See my above edited post. People can misinterpret things. I was looking at the literal power wording and trying to see it as Utgarsworstfears was viewing it.
Sorry Bats I did not see this post.
Re: The Book of Superman
No worries. For the sake of ease of gameplay and wording on the card, we went with the "Superman defends from the space he lands on" interpretation, though I could see how it might be "thematically confusing" for him to get the defensive bonuses from a space behind the figure, but be defending an attack where the figure literally is.
Still, he's Superman. He's just awesome like that.
No worries. For the sake of ease of gameplay and wording on the card, we went with the "Superman defends from the space he lands on" interpretation, though I could see how it might be "thematically confusing" for him to get the defensive bonuses from a space behind the figure, but be defending an attack where the figure literally is.
Still, he's Superman. He's just awesome like that.
UtgarsWorstFear
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Re: The Book of Superman
I was just wondering why you guys decided to go with Kal-El rather than Clark Kent as the sub heading for Superman. I tried wading through the design process but it proved to be a little daunting.
I dont have any particular preferance for Kal-El or Clark Kent, but just wanted to know what reasoning was behind choosing the name that was chosen.
I was just wondering why you guys decided to go with Kal-El rather than Clark Kent as the sub heading for Superman. I tried wading through the design process but it proved to be a little daunting.
I dont have any particular preferance for Kal-El or Clark Kent, but just wanted to know what reasoning was behind choosing the name that was chosen.
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Kal-El is who he really is, Clark Kent is who he was raised to pretend to be.
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Good job on this guy btw. I have been making my own comic customs now and started working on Superman. I scrapped him shortly thereafter because he was so close to this version that I might as well just use this one.
Good job on this guy btw. I have been making my own comic customs now and started working on Superman. I scrapped him shortly thereafter because he was so close to this version that I might as well just use this one.
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Sorry to dredge up old posts, but this quote captures the inconsistency I find strange with this version of Superman. I used him in a playtest of GCW last night and it doesn't make sense to me that he can on one hand jump in front of a bullet for someone on his team, yet he isn't fast enough to ignore leaving engagement strikes. I feel like there is some Kryptonite hiding in his boots.Flash and others don't take them due to super speed. Superman was the first with super speed. It seems like it might have been easier to add a third symbol (Super Speed) to the cards of characters that displayed super speed and that the symbol would indicate, among other things, that you would only take leaving engagement strikes from figures with SS symbol.
Anyway, I will dismount my soapbox with a triple Lindy and get back to playtesting. I apologize if this has been covered in a different thread already. Also, I think this is the only C3G figure, out of close to a hundred I have played so far, that didn't quite live up to my lofty idea of what the figure should be. Please don't take this he wrong way. I love what you guys are doing and all your creativity. Keep up the awesome work.
G-O
Sorry to dredge up old posts, but this quote captures the inconsistency I find strange with this version of Superman. I used him in a playtest of GCW last night and it doesn't make sense to me that he can on one hand jump in front of a bullet for someone on his team, yet he isn't fast enough to ignore leaving engagement strikes. I feel like there is some Kryptonite hiding in his boots.
Flash and others don't take them due to super speed. Superman was the first with super speed. It seems like it might have been easier to add a third symbol (Super Speed) to the cards of characters that displayed super speed and that the symbol would indicate, among other things, that you would only take leaving engagement strikes from figures with SS symbol.Anyway, I will dismount my soapbox with a triple Lindy and get back to playtesting. I apologize if this has been covered in a different thread already. Also, I think this is the only C3G figure, out of close to a hundred I have played so far, that didn't quite live up to my lofty idea of what the figure should be. Please don't take this he wrong way. I love what you guys are doing and all your creativity. Keep up the awesome work.
G-O