The Book of Superman (Kal-El)

[A3n]

The Book of Superman (Kal-El)​

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Justice League set.
Its model number and name are #046 / Superman.​

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Character Bio - Born Kal-El on the planet Krypton, his scientist father Jor-El rocketed him to Earth as an infant, moments before Krypton's destruction. Discovered and adopted by a Kansas farmer and his wife, the child is raised as Clark Kent and imbued with a strong moral compass. Very early he started to display superhuman abilities, which upon reaching maturity he resolved to use for the benefit of humanity. As Clark Kent, Superman lives among humans as a "mild-mannered reporter" for the Metropolis newspaper Daily Planet.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-

• Q: What if Superman uses Heroic Duty to defend for another figure, but the attacker does not have clear sight to Superman? Are bonuses like height advantage determined by comparing to the original target of the attack, or to Superman?
  
  A: After moving adjacent to the friendly figure that initiated the Heroic Duty power, Superman must defend against the attack that initiated the Heroic Duty power regardless of whether he is in the range or LOS of the attacking figure. Range and LOS only apply to the figure that was initially chosen for the attack.
  
  However, since Superman is the one defending the attack, he receives any defensive bonuses against the attacking figure, including any height advantage he may have.

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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:

• As a figure with a secret identity, Superman has these Secret Identity Synergies.
• As a Kal-El, Superman has these Kal-El Synergies.
• As a Kryptonian, Superman has these Kryptonian Synergies.
• As a Champion, Superman has these Champion Synergies.
• As a figure with Super Strength, Superman has these Super Strength Synergies.

Outgoing Synergy:

• N/A

Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:

• As a Kryptonian, Superman interacts differently with these special powers.
• As a Champion, Superman interacts differently with these special powers.
• As a figure with the Valiant personality, Superman interacts differently with these special powers.
• As a figure with Super Strength, Superman interacts differently with these special powers.
• As a flying figure, Superman interacts differently with these special powers.

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

• Heroic Duty -
  Positive: With Superman's Heroic Duty, weaker units or cheerleaders can gain the protection of the Man of Steel. These units can also be used to entice an opponent into combat with Superman. (A3n)
  
  Negative: Superman's Heroic Duty is also his weakness. With his Man of Steel power & a defense of 7, Superman is very strong defensively however due to Heroic Duty he is open to "leaving engagement" attacks that by-pass this defense. Be wary of engaging Superman with an opponent that is within 3 spaces of a friendly unit. (A3n)
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-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

• TBA

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Superman

NAME = SUPERMAN
SECRET IDENTITY = KAL-EL

SPECIES = KRYPTONIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CHAMPION
PERSONALITY = VALIANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 8
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 7
DEFENSE = 7

POINTS = 400

X-RAY VISION
Before moving, if Superman is not engaged, you may look at the power side of any one Glyph that is Symbol Side up.

MAN OF STEEL
When rolling defense against a normal attack from a figure who is not a Kryptonian, all blanks rolled count as extra shields.

HEROIC DUTY
If a friendly figure without this special power that is within 3 spaces of Superman would roll defense dice against a normal, non-adjacent attack, instead you must choose a figure you control with this special power to move adjacent to that friendly figure if it is able to. The chosen figure must roll defense and take any resulting wounds from the attack instead of the friendly figure. When Superman uses Heroic Duty, he will take all leaving engagement attacks.

SUPER STRENGTH

FLYING

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Superman

Excellent work! I almost missed this one. I just went in and edited a tiny sentence level error for negative aspect of Heroic Duty.
Great idea to detail both the positive and negative of Heroic Duty, though, and everything else looks good!

 

[Demerean]

Re: The Book of Superman

Step 1: Use Superman.
Step 2: Use 1st edition dice.
Step 3: Have immortal Superman vs. Normal attacks

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Superman

Step 1: Use Superman.
Step 2: Use 1st edition dice.
Step 3: Have immortal Superman vs. Normal attacks

Good point. We need to add in the same rules clarification we put in the Booklet about which dice Superman was designed to be played with and that house rules are necessary to balance him with other dice.

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Superman

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Justice League set. Its model number and name is 046/Superman.
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This info belongs directly under the cards in the first post. Use this as an example.

 

[A3n]

Re: The Book of Superman

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Justice League set. Its model number and name is 046/Superman.
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This info belongs directly under the cards in the first post. Use this as an example.

Bats beat me to it.

 

[DBC]

Re: The Book of Superman

Question about Heroic Duty:
Does Superman need to be in line of sight, and range, when the attack is redirected to him? Do you count the original target in regards to height advantage etc.?

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Superman

Question about Heroic Duty:
Does Superman need to be in line of sight, and range, when the attack is redirected to him? Do you count the original target in regards to height advantage etc.?

The targeted figure only needs to be within 3 spaces away from Superman. Do not count height, line of sight, terrain/obstacles, walls, or anything else other than simply counting up to 3 spaces away from Superman.

 

[DBC]

Re: The Book of Superman

I was thinking about the attack itself.
Is range, height advantage, cover etc. still counted as if hitting the original target, or Superman?
I'm thinking of an extreme situation where Superman moves adjacent to the target but now has higher ground and is standing behind a ruin out of range of the shooter.

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Superman

I was thinking about the attack itself.
Is range, height advantage, cover etc. still counted as if hitting the original target, or Superman?
I'm thinking of an extreme situation where Superman moves adjacent to the target but now has higher ground and is standing behind a ruin out of range of the shooter.

"Superman must roll defense and take any resulting wounds from the attack instead of the friendly figure."

If Superman has height, fine, he has height. you should always use height advantage when it is applicable, always.

Do not count clear line of sight. The power simply says "Superman MUST roll defense... "

I hope that helps.

 

[DBC]

Re: The Book of Superman

OK, thanks.
It's just not very intuitive to ignore things like range and line of sight, while still having to apply height advantage. But if that is the way it is supposed to work, that's the way we'll play.

 

[GreyOwl]

Re: The Book of Superman

So Griffin, you're saying that the height of Superman should be used, but the range and LOS to the other figure that was originally attacked?

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Superman

So Griffin, you're saying that the height of Superman should be used, but the range and LOS to the other figure that was originally attacked?

1) You can't attack a figure with a normal attack without using LOS and range anyways.

2) The Attacking figure does not need clear line of sight or range on Superman to force Superman to move, defend, and taking resulting wounds. The attacking figure only needs to attack a figure that is friendly to Superman with a normal non-adjacent attack, and that figure must be within 3 spaces of Superman.


After Superman has moved adjacent to his friendly figure, he rolls defense dice whether the attacker can see Superman or not. The emphasis of Heroic Duty is not how Superman relates to the attacker, but how he relates to the friendly figure in danger.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Superman

Well the attack happened, either way. So it's either going to hit the original figure or Superman's going to swoop in front of it and take it instead.
Superman moving adjacent to the original target of this attack represents this swooping. At this point, once Superman moves adjacent, LOS and range don't matter, because the attack has already arrived to wherever he's at.
Since Superman is the one rolling defense, though, he gets to add any bonuses he gets. If he moves adjacent to Captain America through Heroic Defense, he'd get to add +1 for Tactician. If he moves into Raelin's aura, he'd get to add +2. And if he takes height on the attacking figure as part of the move then, yeah, he adds for height advantage.

 

[Hahma]

Re: The Book of Superman

Yeah, the way I'd interpret it is that even if Supes ends up out of LOS or range of attacker, he took the bullet so to speak on the way to where he ended up and regardless is going to be the one defending. The teammate of his conceivably doesn't actually take up the entire hex space, so Supes can conceivably occupy that same space within the teammate's hex and take the bullet on his way to where he ends up.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Superman

But ... would Superman be faster than a speeding bullet ...?

 

[Hahma]

Re: The Book of Superman

But ... would Superman be faster than a speeding bullet ...?

Not when he's trying to be hit by it to save a friend.

 

[DBC]

Re: The Book of Superman

The teammate of his conceivably doesn't actually take up the entire hex space, so Supes can conceivably occupy that same space within the teammate's hex and take the bullet on his way to where he ends up.

But if the original target is below the attacker and Superman ends up above the attacker, it does not make sense to give him height advantage. He still bit the bullet on lower ground!

 

[GreyOwl]

Re: The Book of Superman

so Supes can conceivably occupy that same space within the teammate's hex and take the bullet on his way to where he ends up.

That's how I was thinking about it, which is why I don't understand why you wouldn't calculate the height based on the hex where his teammate is.

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Superman

so Supes can conceivably occupy that same space within the teammate's hex and take the bullet on his way to where he ends up.

That's how I was thinking about it, which is why I don't understand why you wouldn't calculate the height based on the hex where his teammate is.

Because that is an unneeded theme nerd level of complexity , and that is not how it is currently worded, nor was it playtested that way.

 

[Hahma]

Re: The Book of Superman

The teammate of his conceivably doesn't actually take up the entire hex space, so Supes can conceivably occupy that same space within the teammate's hex and take the bullet on his way to where he ends up.

But if the original target is below the attacker and Superman ends up above the attacker, it does not make sense to give him height advantage. He still bit the bullet on lower ground!

so Supes can conceivably occupy that same space within the teammate's hex and take the bullet on his way to where he ends up.

That's how I was thinking about it, which is why I don't understand why you wouldn't calculate the height based on the hex where his teammate is.

I would tend to agree with this and think that Supes' defense and bonuses if any (height/Raelin/Cap/whatever) should be the same as the original targeted figure's. This makes the most sense to me because that figure was the one originally targeted and if Superman swoops in front of the bullet so to speak, he would be virtually in the same spot as the targeted figure when he took the bullet and IMO should defend in relation to the target's position.

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Superman

The teammate of his conceivably doesn't actually take up the entire hex space, so Supes can conceivably occupy that same space within the teammate's hex and take the bullet on his way to where he ends up.

But if the original target is below the attacker and Superman ends up above the attacker, it does not make sense to give him height advantage. He still bit the bullet on lower ground!

so Supes can conceivably occupy that same space within the teammate's hex and take the bullet on his way to where he ends up.

That's how I was thinking about it, which is why I don't understand why you wouldn't calculate the height based on the hex where his teammate is.

I would tend to agree with this and think that Supes' defense and bonuses if any (height/Raelin/Cap/whatever) should be the same as the original targeted figure's. This makes the most sense to me because that figure was the one originally targeted and if Superman swoops in front of the bullet so to speak, he would be virtually in the same spot as the targeted figure when he took the bullet and IMO should defend in relation to the target's position.

But for that to be the case, the power would need to specify that.. it doesn't. Currently, Superman rolls defense.... and you do just that... and all that it entails.

~ ........

 

[Hahma]

Re: The Book of Superman

The teammate of his conceivably doesn't actually take up the entire hex space, so Supes can conceivably occupy that same space within the teammate's hex and take the bullet on his way to where he ends up.

But if the original target is below the attacker and Superman ends up above the attacker, it does not make sense to give him height advantage. He still bit the bullet on lower ground!

so Supes can conceivably occupy that same space within the teammate's hex and take the bullet on his way to where he ends up.

That's how I was thinking about it, which is why I don't understand why you wouldn't calculate the height based on the hex where his teammate is.

I would tend to agree with this and think that Supes' defense and bonuses if any (height/Raelin/Cap/whatever) should be the same as the original targeted figure's. This makes the most sense to me because that figure was the one originally targeted and if Superman swoops in front of the bullet so to speak, he would be virtually in the same spot as the targeted figure when he took the bullet and IMO should defend in relation to the target's position.

But for that to be the case, the power would need to specify that.. it doesn't. Currently, Superman rolls defense.... and you do just that... and all that it entails.

~ ........

Yeah, since it doesn't specify otherwise, I guess we have to go with what the power says and since it says that Superman rolls defense, then he gets appropriate bonuses that would apply. It'll have to certainly be put in rules/clarification for people that might have questions regarding this.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Superman

This one is definitely worth the FAQ, yes, but I'm with Griffin 100% on this ruling - and I don't think anyone's played Superman more than the two of us at this point.