The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor)

[tcglkn]

The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor)​

C3G MARVEL WAVE 14
FANTASTIC ADVENTURES​

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Supernova set.
Its model number and name are #020 / Super Apes: Mikhlo.​

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Character Bio - A member of Red Ghost's Super-Apes. After the Red Ghost purposefully exposed himself and his apes to cosmic rays, Peotor the orangutan was granted higher intelligence as well as magnetic and gravitational powers.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-

• N/A

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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:

• As a Super-Ape, Super-Ape may be activated by Red Ghost's Super-Ape Command special power.
• As a Simian, Super-Ape has these Simian Synergies.
• As a Minion, Super-Ape has these Minion Synergies.

Outgoing Synergy:

• N/A

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-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-

Immunities

• As a figure with the Super Strength special power, Super-Ape cannot be affected by aspects of certain special powers. Current Special Powers the Interact Differently with the Super Strength special power.
• As a Simian, Super-Ape is not affected by Gorilla-Man's Curse of the Gorilla-Man special power.

Benefits

• As a figure with the Super Strength special power, Super-Ape interacts differently with certain special powers. Current Special Powers the Interact Differently with the Super Strength special power.

Weaknesses

• Tiny, Large, and Huge figures are not affected by Super-Ape's Magnetic Toss special power. Current Tiny, Large, and Huge figures.

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

• N/A

-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

• Initial playtest: IAmBatman
• Second playtest: Scapemage
• Third playtest: johnny139
• Comic, Figure, Background
• Art by tcglkn

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

NAME = SUPER-APE
SECRET IDENTITY = PEOTOR

SPECIES = SIMIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = MINION
PERSONALITY = LOYAL

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 4

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 170

MAGNETIC TOSS 9
After moving and instead of attacking, you may choose one small or medium figure within 3 clear sight spaces of this Super-Ape. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 9 or higher, toss the chosen figure by placing it on any empty space within 3 spaces of its original placement. Tossed figures do not take any leaving engagement attacks.

GRAVITATIONAL GRASP 12
Any time an opponent would begin the movement of this Super-Ape or a figure within 4 clear sight spaces of this Super-Ape, you may first roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 12 or higher, the figure may not be moved and may not attack with a normal attack this turn.

SUPER STRENGTH

 

[A3n]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Reused powers & rounded stats, I don't see any issues here.

 

[Margloth]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Why does Peotr have Super Strength? Is that because of his powers? Because he appears to be an orangutan, so if it's representing Simian strength I'd think he wouldn't quite rate.

Throwing with no damage and no falling damage is a little boring... Especially since Peotr has a decently beefy attack. I assume however that Red Ghost is going to have some sort of bonding power, so it could be useful if there's another turn on the OM.

How about dropping his attack and increasing his range to show magnetic attacking ability like Magneto?


One more thing: these are trained (presumably to overcome their more animalistic instincts) apes from the Russian space program who are exposed to cosmic rays that increase their intelligence. Is Feral the best choice for personality?

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Why does Peotr have Super Strength? Is that because of his powers? Because he appears to be an orangutan, so if it's representing Simian strength I'd think he wouldn't quite rate.

Throwing with no damage and no falling damage is a little boring... Especially since Peotr has a decently beefy attack. I assume however that Red Ghost is going to have some sort of bonding power, so it could be useful if there's another turn on the OM.

How about dropping his attack and increasing his range to show magnetic attacking ability like Magneto?


One more thing: these are trained (presumably to overcome their more animalistic instincts) apes from the Russian space program who are exposed to cosmic rays that increase their intelligence. Is Feral the best choice for personality?

He does have SS because of his powers.

Red Ghost will let you take a turn with all 3 Super-Apes so he will be useful, but since it doesn't have any damage, I'd be willing to make it a before attacking power.

Are you thinking like Range 5, Attack 4? Cause I could get behind that, I wouldn't want his Attack lower than 4 though.

I'm open on new personality suggestions. I'm not married to Feral here. I could also see Loyal here.

 

[Margloth]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

I like R5, A4.

I have no suggestions of personality, but loyal (or Obedient?) works for me.

I don't mind tossing instead of attacking if you're going for a team player mechanic. It gives him some strategic uses. Maybe drop the d20 roll more, since there's no (direct) damage involved?

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Alright, these guys are definitely gonna need to work together and it would be cool to load up on Shapeshift Markers on Igor then Toss him into position for a beefed up attack since his movement will be severely crippled.

I'll put suggested changes up for the Range, Attack and Personality.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Looks good with the changes. If Red Ghost is taking a turn with all three of these guys at once, though, do we maybe want to depower them a tad?

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

That's why I kept the D20 rolls on this design and Mikhlo a bit on the higher side. I could see the 3 Apes and Red Ghost coming in around 700-800 points total. They often give the Fantastic 4 a decent fight but usually lose.

 

[Hahma]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Don't know this Ape either, but I take it he has some kind of magnetic powers and they seem well represented with the write-up

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Don't know this Ape either, but I take it he has some kind of magnetic powers and they seem well represented with the write-up

Magnetic and gravitational. Really, the bios I put up in the OP for these guys are about the extent of the wiki knowledge on them. They are rather obscure characters, but classic Fantastic 4 foes.

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Looks good.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

FAT APE (Peotor)

Spoiler Alert!

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

SP updated and sent to ERB.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Cool. This is next on my list.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Thanks Bats. Just get to it when you can, I'm in no rush here.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Looking these over I think HeroClix actually misnamed these two figures. The one sitting down looks like an orangutan which is what Peotor is but it is named Mikhlo, and Miklho is a gorilla which the Peoter's figure looks more like. (Note the difference in the spelling too. Clix calls Peotor: Peoter and Miklho: Mikhlo.)

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

The standing one definitely does look the most like a gorilla.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

I'm switching the figures around even though Clix calls them by different names.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Super-Ape (Peotor)

Momma! Momma! Mah bray-yuh is fuh-ried! Dat's raht! Mah pohr widdle brayn iz badderd and fried!

Didn't get much sleep last night due to staying up a bit later to take care of another ERB report. Then I couldn't sleep, so I went to play a turn in Mage Knight the Board Game to conquer the first city. I do love this game, but it does deep fry the brain (in a good way). When I get home for my lunch break, I'll collect my Fame points and level up. Then tonight, I'll face the final night round, where I have one more city to conquer.

So, what's up? Oh! Sorry, we've got a design for the ol' ERB!

I checked Gravitational Grasp 12 against Graviton's wording, and it checks out ok. I compared Magnetic Toss 9 with Magneto's Magnetic Throw, and I understand why you opted for a slight change in title (toss vs. throw). Only suggestion I have is to change "If you roll 9 or higher, throw" to "If you roll 9 or higher, toss" for consistency with the rest of the text.

I had already deleted a previous ERB, but it was still in my computer's Trash bin. That design also had the name Super-Ape. So your emphasis on saying this Super-Ape instead of just Super-Ape is perfect.

This is definitely going to be an interesting set of designs.

Seems like you put all your creativity into last night's ERB. It was a good one.

Good call on the "throw" vs "toss" I'll make that edit. They should be a fun team. I'll be sending you the third one and Red Ghost too so you'll probably want to save these designs. Don't worry they are all being released together so no need to fear spoilers.

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Good catch on the names Tickle. You may want to send a PM to Spidey just as a follow up though.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

There's one more Super-Ape then Red Ghost who will bond with them. Look forward to that. I'll be sending you both of those designs.

Magnaviton Lite!

Both of these powers are pretty tried n true, really can't go wrong. With super strength, this guy should be great on a map with a lot of DO's around. Also the one-two of Magnetic Throw and Grav Grasp should allow him to be a sort of melee shield, throwing opponents' figures aside and then preventing them from advancing.

Other stats are good, but I'm guessing this faction will have some sort of bonding character(s) to tie them together. Hope to see it!

I have included a bio for your convenience. This bio is pretty much the sum of all wiki knowledge on these guys.

Character Bio - A member of Red Ghost's Super-Apes. After the Red Ghost purposefully exposed himself and his apes to cosmic rays, Peotor the orangutan was granted higher intelligence as well as magnetic and gravitational powers.

NAME = Super-Ape

SECRET IDENTITY = Peotor

SPECIES = Simian
UNIQUENESS = Unique Hero
CLASS = Minion
PERSONALITY = Loyal

SIZE/HEIGHT = Medium 4

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 180

MAGNETIC TOSS 9
After moving and instead of attacking, you may choose one small or medium figure within 3 clear sight spaces of this Super-Ape. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 9 or higher, throw the chosen figure by placing it on any empty space within 3 spaces of its original placement. Tossed figures do not take any leaving engagement attacks.

GRAVITATIONAL GRASP 12
Any time an opponent would begin the movement of this Super-Ape or a figure within 4 clear sight spaces of this Super-Ape, you may first roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 12 or higher, the figure may not be moved and may not attack with a normal attack this turn.

SUPERSTRENGTH

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (SUPER APE (PEOTOR))

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
PASS

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
PASS

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
PASS

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
PASS

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
PASS

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
PASS

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
PASS

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
PASS

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
PASS

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 170-175
- Give a brief overview. Peotor doesn’t belong in Punisher or Jean Grey’s class one-on-one

Spoiler Alert!

TEST 1
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor vs. Elektra (170)
Peotor went 1 for 3 on Gravitational Grasp. He had height on most attacks.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Peotor wins with 3 Wounds, Turn 1, Round 3.

TEST 2
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor vs. Elektra (170)
Peotor went 2 for 4 on GG and height and shadow made it hard for Elektra to wound him.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Peotor wins with Full Life Turn 3, Round 2.

TEST 3
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor vs. Tigra (170)
Tigra never used Berserker Rage because she killed Peotor on her second attack after getting wounded. Peotor went 0 for 1 on GG.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Tigra wins with 2 wounds Turn 3, Round 2.

TEST 4
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor vs. Tigra (170)
Peotor got initiative for Round 2. He was 0 for 1 on GG. Berserker Rage got Tigra an additional 2 attacks one turn.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Peotor wins with 3 wounds Turn 1, Round 2.

TEST 5
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor vs. Jean Grey (180)
Lots of throwing and throw blocking! Jean Grey never got throw damage thanks to poor throw rolls and GG blocking her throw attempts. GG was 4 of 6 and Psionic Grip was 1 for 3.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Jean Grey wins with 2 wounds, Turn 3, Round 2.

TEST 6
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor vs. Jean Grey (180)
Psionic Grip was not rolled for here. Peotor took 1 wound from throw damage and Jean had height a lot. GG was 0 for 2.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Jean Grey with Full Life wins Turn 3, Round 2.

TEST 7
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor vs. Giant Man (180)
GG was 2 for 4. Peotor’s toss didn’t work on Giant Man, since Giant Man is huge. Giant Defense kept Giant Man in the game.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Giant Man wins with 2 wounds Turn 2, Round 2.

TEST 8
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor vs. Giant Man (180)
GG was only 1 for 4. One of Peotor’s wounds was a swipe (he disengaged two or three times to try to keep Giant Man’s attacks at bay, but he didn’t roll well enough for GG).
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Giant Man wins with 2 wounds Turn 3, Round 2.

TEST 9
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor vs. Punisher (180)
Punisher’s Assault Rifle tore Peotor up for 3 wounds on Punisher’s first attack. Then a 3 skull Rocket finished the job. GG was 0 for 1.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Punisher wins with 1 wound, Turn 3, Round 1.

TEST 10
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor vs. Punisher (180)
Peotor won initiative in the final round to finish the job. He was 3 for 4 on GG and Punisher had trouble wounding him with anything other than the Rocket, thanks to Peotor being on height and shadow.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Peotor wins with 3 wounds, Turn 1, Round 3.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 150?
- Give a brief overview. Peotor rolled poorly on GG and his attacks and got owned by numbers. His throw wasn’t used because he couldn’t pass up attacks.
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor vs. Arkham Inmates x3 (180)

Spoiler Alert!

Peotor went 1 for 5 on GG. He took one wound from Aggravated Assault. Most of his attacks killed Inmates outright – he just didn’t last long enough to get enough of them.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Arkham Inmates win with 6 figures remaining Turn 3, Round 2.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 160-170
- Give a brief overview. This match felt really balanced, but the Hand Ninja are probably worth more like 160 or so without bonding.
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor vs. Hand Ninja x2 (170)

Spoiler Alert!

Peotor was 2 of 3 on GG, avoiding 2 attacks thanks to this. He had height most of the match.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Peotor wins with 3 wounds, Turn 1, Round 3.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 180
- Give a brief overview. Peotor, rolling well for Gravitational Grasp, was a great ranged complement to the Gorilla City Warriors here and really helped them dominate.
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor (180), Gorilla City Warriors x2 (250), Gorilla-Man (160) (590) vs. Captain America (240), Wasp (50), Hawkeye (150), Iron Man Mark II (150) (590)

Spoiler Alert!

Avengers died too fast here and lost too many unrevealed Order Markers in the process. Round 3 was just a slaughter, with them getting in no turns, and the Simians won initiative in Round 4 to finish things off. Peotor was 2 for 2 on GG, stymying Cap’s attempts to get in good Shield Toss position. Peotor killed Wasp on his first attack and put 3 wounds on Hawkeye from range. The GCWs did most of the work, but Peotor was a great partner in crime. Gorilla-Man stayed in the startzone.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Simians win with only 1 wound on Peotor and 2 Gorilla City Warriors destroyed, Turn 1, Round 4.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 160?
- Give a brief overview. Peotor rolled poorly on the D20 and the Fan Four took advantage. He had a fairly low impact overall here.
Map: Custom
Units: Peotor (180), Gorilla City Warriors x3 (375), Gorilla Grodd (225), Red Skull (220) (1,000) vs. Mister Fantastic, Human Torch (Johnny), Invisible Woman, Thing (1,000)

Spoiler Alert!

Peotor’s one moment of greatness, as he went 1 for 5 on GG, was when he stopped Human Torch from disengaging early in the game to take shots with Flame On 4 at two GCWs and fly to better position for his Supernova. Afraid of Gorilla Grodd, Human Torch just stayed put and went Nova anyway, taking out 3 GCWs instead of potentially a lot more had he been able to move. Human Torch died soon after.
Peotor’s throw also helped get Mister Fantastic in better position for the GCWs to attack a couple of times, but Mr. F. defended well and Invisible Woman (immune to Gravitational Grasp) quickly got in the picture to back up Mr. F.
Peotor and Gorilla Grodd both fell in Round 4, with Grodd taking out Invisible Woman first, then falling to Thing (pumped up by 2 wounds on Mr. F.).
Red Skull was the end gamer, but Mr. F. got in the first shot and took away the Cosmic Cube right away. Red Skull managed to put 2 wounds on Mr. F. with his pistols, but Thing came in then and went all Clobberin Time, tearing through Red Skull with a 7 skull attack (he didn’t even get to use his second attack for Clobberin Time).
Better rolls from GG or better attacks from Peotor could have really helped the GCWs in this match, but it didn’t happen.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Mister Fantastic with 4 wounds and Thing with Full Life win Turn 3, Round 5.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Don't get the key until Sunday, so hoping to have time for this tomorrow.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Super-Ape (Peotor): Design

Thanks so much Bats. I'll try to do art for you ASAP. I already have Mr. Zsasz ready for you.