The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie)

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Breathing

Is he a rock star, though? Or more of an Indie punk rocker playing small venues?

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Breathing

He straight up decapitated the president. I think he's pretty widely known.

But yeah, totally fine with entertainer. Honestly just forgot that was an option when I started this guy.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Breathing

Is he a rock star, though? Or more of an Indie punk rocker playing small venues?

That was kinda my question. Entertainer applies either way though.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Breathing

Are you not entertained?

 

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Breathing

yea

I like entertainer or maverick here. Celebrity is a bit too 'mainstream sellout' for a Spider Punk

 

[Ronin]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Breathing

3 unblockables? That's a beefy strat.

yea

I like Entertainer or Maverick.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Breathing

Definitely prefer Entertainer.

Yea

 

[MrNobody]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Breathing

Yea, Entertainer

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Waiting for Initi

Updated to Entertainer. This passes, thanks!

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Waiting for Initi

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Spider-Punk


Army Test
Summary: Pretty balanced! I thought for sure the Spiders were squashed, but Gwen brought the pain. Punk only did 2 wounds with 2 riots hitting all the opponents’ figures each time, but he DID finish off Iron Fist with a 2 skull Fender Bender. Obviously he’s pretty lackluster after he does Fender Bender however.
Map: Custom
Units: Punk, Otto, Uk, Gwen, Assassin

Vs

Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Punisher (Defenders), Shi, Daredevil (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Recap: Punk is Gwen’s Reinforcements. Otto wins initiative. The Spiders move up, with Assassin taking a shot at Daredevil but missing. Next round UK swings the other two into engagement. Shi moves up and hits Assassin for 3 wounds plus uses his Spider Sense for the round. Luke hits UK for 2. Otto and Assassin both hits DD with some huge attack rolls, but only manage 1 wound. Luke hits UK for yet another wound. Assassin hits DD for 2 wounds, then hits his Assassin roll, but DD goes the distance. Otto finishes him however! Shi misses Assassin but hits Otto for 3! Next round UK punches Luke for 1, then summons Gwen and Punk. Gwen tries attacking but misses, and Punk starts a Riot, which hits Iron Fist and Shi. Shi misses her attacks, and Luke punches out UK. Otto tries to hit Luke to combo with Assassin, but misses. So then Gwen runs over to Assassin and kills Shi. Assassin moves up and misses, then all 3 Riot rolls miss. Luke kills Otto. Luke whiffs a defense roll from Gwen, and she takes him out! And also puts 2 wounds on Iron Fist! Punk goes next, and bashes in Iron Fist’s head with his Guitar before he can heal with his Chi. Punisher goes up against Gwen and Punk, and takes out Gwen with a lucky shot. The next round Assassin grabs height and shoots Punisher with 5 skulls, finishing him off.



Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Punk with 1 wound, and Assassin with 4 wounds.

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Army Test
Summary: Pretty brutal loss. Punk himself only did a total of 3 wounds I think across all of his fancy rolls. Beast and Jean just shut down Otto and UK pretty hard for 2 rounds, and the Spiders couldn’t bring back their momentum.
Map: Custom
Units: Punk, Otto, UK, Agent Venom, Knight (1000)

Vs.

X-Men

Spoiler Alert!

Recap: Otto wins Initiative. Both teams move, and Jean hits Punk for a wound. R2 Otto wins Initiative. Uk moves the Spiders next to the Xmen, and UK hits Beast for 4 wounds! Cyclops disengages, taking a wound, but a massive Optic Blast hits Venom for 3 wounds, kills Knight, and hits UK for 1! Punk hits Cyclops for a wound with his Riot. Beast negotiates an OM off of Otto, then kills Venom. Next round Beast Negotiates OM1 off of UK. Beast and Jean really screw with the Spiders for about 2 whole rounds. Then Punk finally uses his Riot to have Otto kill Beast. Punk misses his roll however. Otto then kills Jean. Next round Hobie tries another Riot but only UK hits Iceman. Iceman kills UK. Punk uses his Fender to hit Cyclops for a wound. Cyclops kills Punk. Next round Iceman kills Otto.



Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Prof X with 1 wound, Cyclops with 3 wounds, Iceman with 2 wounds, Angel with 0 wounds.

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Army Test
Summary: Ugh this was a stupid long game. I thought for sure the Sin 6 had it for the longest time, but somehow the Spiders scraped through. Punk’s abilities had one good turn, but otherwise he wasn’t too exciting again.

Map: Custom
Units: Punk, Otto, UK, Gwen, Spider-Girl (May), Spider-Cat

Vs.

Sinister 6

Spoiler Alert!

Recap: Mayday starts on Gwen’s card. Kraven picks UK as his Prey. Gwen and Mayday drop on T2, trying to hit Kraven, but they both completely miss. Vulture carries Sandman up, and hits Gwen for 2 wounds. Punk is too far away from everyone, so he uses Riot, and Gwen hits Kraven with it. Otto wins initiative R2. Uk moves everyone into better positions, then engages Electro, taking 2 wounds from his skin. UK punched Electro for a wound. Vulture drops UK to low ground but misses an attack. Spider-Cat tries to engage Electro, but is killed by the Skin. Punk jumps up to Ock, but is swatted away next to Electro (No wounds). Punk uses his Riot, and Sandman, Vulture, and Mysterio all take wounds. UK tries to attack Ock, but is swatted away. Gwen hits Sandman for 2. Ock hits UK for 2, and Sandman hits Mayday for 2. Next round Otto has all the OMs, but loses the roll. Ock kills UK. Otto charges after Ock, but misses. Vulture drops Otto next to Electro for a wound, and hits him for another one. Electro hits Otto for 2 wounds. Otto hits Ock for 2 wounds. Otto hits Ock for another wound. Otto wins Initiative, Punk tries to engage Ock but is swatted away. But Otto then kills Ock, so they lose the whole round! Punk goes after Electro with Fender Bender but misses. After a round of slogging, Gwen finally kills Vulture. Kraven hits Punk for a wound, and removes the OMX on his card. Gwen eventually finishes Kraven. Punk and Gwen finish off Sandman. Mysterio kills Punk, then Gwen a round or two later. Eventually Otto finally tracks him down and finishes him.

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Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Otto with 4 wounds..

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I think he’s pretty balanced. If he rolls hot he can do a lot of damage, but it only really seemed worth it once. I’m not sure he’s quite as draftable as I first thought, but I want to see him in someone else’s hands.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT:
He’s not really all that exciting to me. I love the theme, and Riot is cool, but it’s not terribly reliable and then he’s just a 4 att/5 defense figure after he uses Fender Bender. I’m thinking maybe a drop in cost just to make him a tad more appealing, or change up his powers a tad. I have a thought on that.


Version Tested:

NAME = SPIDER-MAN
SECRET IDENTITY = HOBIE BROWN (CO)

SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ENTERTAINER
PERSONALITY = REBELLIOUS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 160


SPIDER-PUNK RIOT 9
Once per round instead of attacking with Spider-Man, you may choose a figure adjacent to each figure you control that has the Rebellious personality, or has the Swing Ling or Web Swing special power. One at a time, roll the 20-sided die, adding 2 to the roll if the chosen figure is a Symbiote. If you roll 9 or higher, the chosen figure receives one wound. No figure may be chosen more than once during Spider-Punk Riot.

FENDER BENDER
Instead of attacking with Spider-Man, you may roll either 1 or 3 unblockable attack dice against an adjacent figure. If you roll 3 dice, Spider-Man's Fender Bender and Spider-Punk Riot special powers are negated for the rest of the game.

SWING LINE 4
Instead of his normal move, Spider-Man may move up to 4 spaces with Swing Line. When moving with Swing Line, Spider-Man has the Flying special power, but may not move up or down more than 40 levels in a single swing, and will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

SUPER STRENGTH

Army Test
Summary: Another case of huge luck for defense. The Spiders could not kill anybody, even when Sue fell. Johnny consistently was rolling 4 shields. Pretty bizarre, but otherwise Punk felt much better here, and Otto’s Initiative losses weren’t debilitating. Everything felt good.
Map: Custom
Units: Punk, Otto, Uk, Gwen, Assassin (1000)

Vs

Fan Four

Spoiler Alert!

Recap: Assassin is Gwen’s Reinforcements. Otto wins Initiative R1. Johnny shoots Otto for a wound. Otto rushes to Sue, attacking for a wound, then Punk engages Thing, and Riots with himself and Otto, both hitting. Johnny Flames On, hitting Otto, then Reed wraps him up. Otto loses Initiative R2. Johnny runs over to UK and Flames On, dealing 2 wounds. Thing hits Punk for 2 wounds. UK attacks Johnny for a wound, and summons Gwen and Assassin, who both only deal 2 wounds to Sue. Ben rolls 8 skulls against Gwen, squashing her instantly! Johnny uses Flame On again, hitting UK for 2 more wounds. Otto has UK rush Sue since UK has the highest attack, but rolls zero skulls. Johnny goes to finish UK, and misses his Flame On roll! But kills him with a normal attack. Assassin hits Sue for 1 wound. Otto wins Initiative R3. Punk uses Riot, killing Sue and putting one wound on Reed. Ben hits Punk for 1 wound. Punk and Assassin both attack Johnny, dealing a single wound. Ben hits Assassin for 3 wounds. Punk misses Johnny, but Assassin shoots him for 1, then hits his Assassination roll for the kill. Ben runs back to Reed and finishes Otto. Ben and Reed finish Assassin with not too much problem.



Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Reed, with 1 wound, Ben with 1 wound..

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[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Waiting for Initi

Finally finished this up. The games were pretty balanced aside from the second one, but Hobie just isn't all that exciting to actually play. My thoughts are to either drop his points by 20 or so to make him a bit more desirable (I don't think that'll throw off his balance at all, felt like the other Spiders pulled their weight more than him in the wins), or to change up his powers. The Spiders are fun when they're flipping around the battlefield constantly, so if we scrap Fender Bender and kind of put it in Riot to keep the theme, then we can add Spider-Agility to make him more fun and aggressive.

SPIDER-PUNK RIOT 11
Once per round instead of attacking with Spider-Man, you may choose a figure adjacent to each figure you control that has the Rebellious personality, or has the Swing Ling or Web Swing special power. One at a time, roll the 20-sided die, adding 2 to the roll if the chosen figure is a symbiote. If you roll 11 or higher, the chosen figure receives one wound. No figure may be chosen more than once during Spider-Punk Riot. After rolling for a figure adjacent to Spider-Man, you may add 5 to the roll. If you do, Spider-Punk Riot is negated for the rest of the game.

SPIDER-AGILITY 2
After Spider-Man attacks an adjacent figure, he may move up to 2 spaces with his Swing Line special power. If he moves at least one space, he may attack an adjacent figure one additional time.

But I've been super tired and these games dragged on for many rounds from luck, so my thought is to send him out at 150 to start, with no power changes. Then if the next tester feels the same as me, change to the above. Sound good?

I propose we move to Testing at 150 with the above plan.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

Yea, that change doesn't even seem that exciting to me.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

Spider agility is a fun power that get figures moving on the board. Also makes him more useful than just being a 4 die attacker.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

Spider agility is a fun power that get figures moving on the board. Also makes him more useful than just being a 4 die attacker.

Misunderstood the update, thought Agility was already there and you were just changing the last line on the first power.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

After some chatting with SW, I think we'll try these changes first:

NAME = SPIDER-MAN
SECRET IDENTITY = HOBIE BROWN (CO)

SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ENTERTAINER
PERSONALITY = REBELLIOUS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 150


SPIDER-PUNK RIOT 9
Once per round instead of attacking with Spider-Man, you may choose a figure adjacent to each figure you control that has the Rebellious personality, or has the Swing Ling or Web Swing special power. One at a time, roll the 20-sided die, adding 2 to the roll if the chosen figure is a Symbiote. If you roll 9 or higher, the chosen figure receives one wound. No figure may be chosen more than once during Spider-Punk Riot.

FENDER BENDER
Instead of attacking with Spider-Man, you may roll either 1 or 3 unblockable attack dice against an adjacent figure. If you roll 3 dice, Spider-Man's Fender Bender and Spider-Punk Riot special powers are negated for the rest of the game.

SWING LINE 4
Instead of his normal move, Spider-Man may move up to 4 spaces with Swing Line. When moving with Swing Line, Spider-Man has the Flying special power, but may not move up or down more than 40 levels in a single swing, and will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

SUPER STRENGTH

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

Probably makes sense for you to play at least one game with the change to make sure you like it but seems like a good direction.

 

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

yea

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

Probably makes sense for you to play at least one game with the change to make sure you like it but seems like a good direction.

I'll see if I can run another game tonight.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

If you want to make him more interesting, make Fender Bender after attacking.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

If you want to make him more interesting, make Fender Bender after attacking.

Along with SW's suggested changes, that might shoot up his cost a bit, but it'd be cool. Kinda what L'il Lobo does.

I'll play around with him tonight and then restart the vote.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

Ran one more game with the changes (I edited it into my initial post), and I like him much better!


I propose we move to public testing

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

Yea

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

Yea

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

Yea

 

[LordVenoc]

Re: The Book of Spider-Man (Hobie Brown) ~ Vote for Testing

Yea