The Book of Silver Surfer

[IAmBatman]

The Book of Silver Surfer​

C3G MARVEL SUPER SECRET EXCLUSIVE 18
COSMIC HERALD

Comic PDF​

Mini PDF​

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Avengers set.
Its model number and name are #100 / Silver Surfer.
Its model number and name are #105 / Sentinel of the Skyways.​

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Character Bio - "Norrin Radd, a young astronomer of the planet Zenn-La, made a bargain with the cosmic entity Galactus, pledging to serve as his herald in order to save his homeworld from destruction. Imbued in return with a tiny portion of Galactus' Power Cosmic, Radd acquired great powers and a new version of his original appearance. Galactus also created for Radd a surfboard-like craft — modeled after a childhood fantasy of his — on which he would travel at speeds beyond that of light. Known from then on as the Silver Surfer, Radd began to roam the cosmos searching for new planets for Galactus to consume. When his travels finally took him to Earth, the Surfer came face-to-face with the Fantastic Four, a team of powerful superheroes that helped him to rediscover his nobility of spirit. Betraying Galactus, the Surfer saved Earth but was punished in return by being exiled there." (wikipedia.org 2011)
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-Rulings and Clarifications-

• N/A

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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:

• As an Adventurer, Silver Surfer has these Adventurer Synergies.

Outgoing Synergy:

• N/A

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-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-

Immunities

• As a figure with the Super Strength special power, Silver Surfer cannot be affected by aspects of certain special power. Current Special Powers that Interact Differently with the Super Strength Special Power.
• As a figure with the Flying special power, Silver Surfer cannot be affected by aspects of certain special power. Current Special Powers that Interact Differently with the Flying Special Power.

Benefits

• As a figure with the Super Strength special power, Silver Surfer interacts differently with certain special powers. Current Special Powers that Interact Differently with the Super Strength Special Power.

Weaknesses

• As a figure with the Flying special power, Silver Surfer interacts differently with certain special powers. Current Special Powers that Interact Differently with the Flying Special Power.
• As an Adventurer, an opponent's Impossible Man may add 8 to his roll for Shapeshifting Prankster if he chooses Silver Surfer.

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

• Fantastic 4 faction strategy guide

-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

• Initial playtest: (Bats)
• Second playtest: (Scapemage)
• Third playtest: (Karat)
• Mini photos by (Spidey)
• Art by tcglkn

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer

NAME = SILVER SURFER
SECRET IDENTITY = NORRIN RADD

SPECIES = ZENN-LAVIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ADVENTURER
PERSONALITY = NOBLE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 8
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 400

THE POWER COSMIC
Before rolling attack or defense dice for Silver Surfer, you may remove any number of unrevealed Order Markers from this card and add that number of skulls or shields to your roll.

ENERGY TRANSMUTATION
When Silver Surfer defends against an adjacent attack, you may remove a Wound Marker from this card if he has any excess shields.

COSMIC SPEED
Silver Surfer never takes leaving engagement attacks. After rolling attack or defense dice for Silver Surfer, you may immediately move Silver Surfer up to 2 spaces.

SUPER STRENGTH

FLYING

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer

 

[Good Pig]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer

Wow cool! This looks like a fun design. One tough mother to add in to a Fantastic Four build.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Looks great. I love the Energy Transmutation but am a bit worried about the power level of the current one. Only testing will tell though.

 

[Griffin]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

I would not be upset with the alternate version of Energy Transmutation at all. I would personally not take any risk of wasting time playtesting the current version if I knew the alternate version was just as desirable. And the second version may be more desirable, because I kinda like SS having a counter and also this power working against his typical tendency to fly away with his HyperSpeed/ CosmicSpeed. It creates a bit more in game decisions when you may want to heal and so you engage or stay engaged after taking a turn, as opposed to the times when getting away and taking height may be your best option.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Yeah, I'm leaning heavily towards going with that alternate version too, but I might run a heavy hitter or two at some point first just to see how this version "feels". Either way, I'll be busy all weekend, so we'll see how the breathing period goes.

 

[Hahma]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

I would not be upset with the alternate version of Energy Transmutation at all. I would personally not take any risk of wasting time playtesting the current version if I knew the alternate version was just as desirable. And the second version may be more desirable, because I kinda like SS having a counter and also this power working against his typical tendency to fly away with his HyperSpeed/ CosmicSpeed. It creates a bit more in game decisions when you may want to heal and so you engage or stay engaged after taking a turn, as opposed to the times when getting away and taking height may be your best option.

I agree. If he can remove 3 wounds, he can just fly away and get to height, hide for a turn or attack another figure. He still gets to roll defense if the opponent whiffs their attack, so that can be a free insta heal for SS. The 1 wound at a time is better IMO and encourages him to get his hands dirty.

 

[SirGalahad]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Agree with points mentioned above.

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

I think his Range could be bumped up one and his Movement bumped down or Cosmic Speed down one. He can move as much as the Flash plus he has flight, which to me implies faster which is not accurate.

 

[Good Pig]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Flash has 4 more move, what are you talking about?

 

[Hahma]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Flash has 4 more move, what are you talking about?

Yeah, what in tar nation you talkin' bout Spidey?

Flash has move of 12 + 4 for Superspeed = 16

Silver Surfer has move of 8 + 4 for Cosmic Speed = 12.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Not to mention he moves between galaxies, so that pretty much implies light speed or near light speed, right? Flash doesn't typically run faster than the speed of light (because if he did, he'd reverse causality and time travel!). Thus, I'd think they're fairly close speed-wise.

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Well, Surfer can ALWAYS move +4 which evens them out, plus Surfer can fly. No, I don't think Surfer's top speed is equal to Flash. But I seem to be alone here, so I will drop it.

 

[Griffin]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Flash doesn't always top out his speed in the comics either though - just like in our game.

 

[Hahma]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Flash doesn't always top out his speed in the comics either though - just like in our game.

Yeah, and after reading the Thanos Imperative 6 part series again recently, I see Silver Surfer always surfing along and blasting as he goes. He blasts enemies in front of him, next to him and behind him without even looking.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Flash doesn't always top out his speed in the comics either though - just like in our game.

Yep, this was kind of my point. Because if Flash did always go his top speed, he'd always be time traveling. It's simple physics. If you match the speed of light, you travel to the future (due to relativity - it basically just means your body ages slower than the universe around you) and if you exceed the speed of light, you reverse causality and travel to the past. So both of these guys can only go so fast before they're not just traveling in space.

 

[SirGalahad]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Superscape: the game for theoretical physicists everywhere.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

If it isn't, it should be!

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Ran three informal heavy hitters with him just now and he lost to Superman after putting 1, 3, and 5 wounds on Supes. This is with the design as is, making me wonder if we need to nerf Energy Transmutation or not. Against heavy hitters, it seems unnecessary, though I think it might be more so for mid-level heroes and squads (most of them will benefit from range, though).
I guess it depends on where we want this guy to end up. With the change, I think he's down to 320-340, but without it, I think he might be able to go a little higher.

 

[Hahma]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Well shouldn't he be higher than 320-340?

 

[Good Pig]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Yeah, I'd prefer he was closer to 400 points than 320 like the original Hasbro version. Seems like it would be more appropriate for the C3G power level scale.

 

[A3n]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Yeah, I'd prefer he was closer to 400 points than 320 like the original Hasbro version. Seems like it would be more appropriate for the C3G power level scale.

especially since the combined F4 struggled against him.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

Yeah, so I think we can go with the OP as is and try that out. 6 life and 6 defense isn't that tough, even with the special powers, and 6 attack doesn't kill very quickly, even with the special powers.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The C3G Book of Silver Surfer - Design Phase

I'm going to run some informal tests against Hasbro Hulk and some mid-level heroes and see if I think we should drop the ranged only requirement on power transference as well.