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The Book of Scarlett

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If the idea is supposed to be it's only for weaker dudes, seems like we'd do the standard 'dudes without Super Strength' thing. Like that's a proper dividing line. There are a ton of beefy humans.

That scans thematically too. 'Sorry Thor, you can punch through walls. I don't know how to advise someone like that' makes more sense than 'sorry Thor, but despite looking totally human you're technically not and I apparently have some weird hang-up about genetic purity'. :lol:
 
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Sentry isn’t human.

I need to catch up yet but had to correct that :D
 
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Soundwarp SG-1 said:
If the idea is supposed to be it's only for weaker dudes, seems like we'd do the standard 'dudes without Super Strength' thing. Like that's a proper dividing line. There are a ton of beefy humans.

That scans thematically too. 'Sorry Thor, you can punch through walls. I don't know how to advise someone like that' makes more sense than 'sorry Thor, but despite looking totally human you're technically not and I apparently have some weird hang-up about genetic purity'.
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If we reduce her power to only Commanders, Commandos and Soldiers without Super Strength it will reduce her options from almost 400 humans to only 15 viable figures (currently). That's huge reduction of possible figures to boost and will most certainly bring her cost down alot.

Unless you mean to only reduce it to Humans without Super Strength, in which case, I'm good with that. But that still means she can't give vital information to mutants/metahumans and the like, which is what I thought was your original concern. Like she can't give advice to Deathstroke because he is metahuman.

After reading your post again, perhaps you mean to reduce it to all figures without super strength. In which case it increases her options to about 650 figures. Some of them over 400 points.

I don't know how to proceed from here.
 
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Poll it out and/or pick a direction. I'm personally not as concerned about certain people getting the boost. It is difficult to setup and maintain.

Though I think SW was suggesting just figures without the superstrength special power regardless of species.
 
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I'm cool with whatever direction you want to go fret. With both you and Karat testing and not feeling concerned about the power level, I'm not worried. I'm generally a thematic pairings guy so that's why I liked the Commando/Soldier thing, but any of the suggestions here works with the Joes, so it's basically a wash for me.
 
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fret_gurglo said:
Soundwarp SG-1 said:
If the idea is supposed to be it's only for weaker dudes, seems like we'd do the standard 'dudes without Super Strength' thing. Like that's a proper dividing line. There are a ton of beefy humans.

That scans thematically too. 'Sorry Thor, you can punch through walls. I don't know how to advise someone like that' makes more sense than 'sorry Thor, but despite looking totally human you're technically not and I apparently have some weird hang-up about genetic purity'.
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If we reduce her power to only Commanders, Commandos and Soldiers without Super Strength it will reduce her options from almost 400 humans to only 15 viable figures (currently). That's huge reduction of possible figures to boost and will most certainly bring her cost down alot.

Unless you mean to only reduce it to Humans without Super Strength, in which case, I'm good with that. But that still means she can't give vital information to mutants/metahumans and the like, which is what I thought was your original concern. Like she can't give advice to Deathstroke because he is metahuman.

After reading your post again, perhaps you mean to reduce it to all figures without super strength. In which case it increases her options to about 650 figures. Some of them over 400 points.

I don't know how to proceed from here.
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I don't really 'mean' anything as far as a specific direction. I don't especially care what direction this goes in because it's not a character I care about and none of the options are a big deal competitively. You can get Karolina Dean for 130 points and get a way more stable defensive booster, so nothing Intelligence Officer does is ever going to be broken IMO. The global aspect of it is really nice, but the OM stuff is a big limiter.

What I was saying was in a vacuum, the standard 'but this shouldn't work on strong dudes' limit is 'non-Super Strength'. So if that's a thing you and Yoda want, I'd do that instead of saying 'non-Human'. And if it is something you want, if you also want to attach that to a Soldier, Commando, Captain Kangaroo class restriction or have that as the only restriction is up to you.

None of it really matters competitively, there's always going to be somebody that gets more out of it than other people no matter what option you pick. So it's just a matter of what y'alls goals are. If for whatever reason it's important to y'all that U.S.Agent can't get extra defense then do one that stops that. If for whatever reason it's also ok for Huntress to get +2 defense with the same Ruthless Counterstrike power, perhaps to represent the natural sisterhood of crossbow ladies which is honestly kinda an awesome reason, that's also fine. Do one that gets her and not him then.

My only preference is I personally don't like having a human callout on the power as thematic preference. And what I care about thematically isn't super relevant. As CRB guy, I give you carte blanche to do as you see fit as long as the power doesn't change to 'After the chosen Order Marker is revealed on that Hero's card, all your oppenent's figures instantly have fatal heart attacks and you win the game.' or something. :lol:
 
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Fwiw I prefer to keep her in the military faction and think it'll be easier to keep an eye on her competitively that way. I don't think she's *broken* even without limitation completely.

If there's a poll, put me down for Commander, Commando, Soldier (and not worrying about SS one way or another).
 
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IAmBatman said:
Fwiw I prefer to keep her in the military faction and think it'll be easier to keep an eye on her competitively that way. I don't think she's *broken* even without limitation completely.

If there's a poll, put me down for Commander, Commando, Soldier (and not worrying about SS one way or another).
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:word:
 
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Ok. I will leave it open to a poll for 12 hours

a) Commander, Commando, Soldier class
b) All figures without Super Strength
c) Leave it as is, Human species

Already have 2 votes for a
 
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A seems best to me. Question though - the first Joe design (Grunt) offered synergy to other Soldiers only. Then Snow Job came along, introduced the Commando class and offered synergy to Soldiers and Commandos. Now Scarlett is offering synergy to Soldiers, Commandos, and Commanders.

I guess I'm just confused that we have 3 different synergy pieces now calling out 3 different groups of characters. If it's meant to be a military chain of command thing (Grunt hangs out with other grunts, while Snow Job leads the foot soldiers as well as the more elite commandos, and only Scarlett out of the three gets to hang with the "top brass") I can understand that, but I also worry it's going to be slightly confusing to the end player.
 
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The intent is to have 2 distinct classes within the Joe ranks. The general soldiers and the elite commandos. Each will have some synergy within their own ranks and some that cross ranks. Commanders will be very few (like one or two). Scarlett originally called out to all humans to cover all ranks for simplicity. It is now being questioned about its unusual callout and the compromise for that is the triple callout now being suggested
 
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After hearing everyone's take on it, I guess I dig the military theme best regardless of species. So I'll also vote A.
 
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Option A is clearly the winner. SP updated again. Card up please @japes . Then the continuation of vote for On-deck
 
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INTELLIGENCE OFFICER
At the start of each round, choose an opponent's Unique Hero within 6 clear sight spaces of Scarlett. Look at an unrevealed Order Marker on the chosen Hero's card. After the chosen Order Marker is revealed on that Hero's card, all of your Commander, Commando and Soldier figures add 2 to their Defense numberroll two additional defense dice for the remainder of the round.
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Yea
 
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Yea pending whatever updates. Looks good otherwise!
 
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fret_gurglo said:
Updated. Another card update please, whenever you get a chance @japes
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No you've already used up all your free updates. any more will cost you. :)

I'm in photoshop now so I'll get it while I'm here.

EDIT: DOne
 
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Thanks japes. Just waiting for one more hero @soundwarp, I got a soft yea, but I'd like to make it official
 
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Soundwarp SG-1 said:
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There
 
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