The Book of Nightwing

[IAmBatman]

The Book of Nightwing

C3G DC SUPER SECRET EXCLUSIVE 34
ROBIN'S RECKONING

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Hypertime set.
Its model number and name are #061-063 / Nightwing.

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Batman: Alpha set.
Its model number and name are #029 / Nightwing.​

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Character Bio - “Dick Grayson became Nightwing after he was dismissed from the role of Robin at eighteen [….]Throughout Dick's adolescence, Batman and Robin are inseparable. However, as Dick grows older and spends more time as the leader of the Teen Titans, he retires as Robin and takes on his own superhero identity Nightwing to assert his independence (others would fill in as Robin) [….] As Nightwing, Dick leads the Teen Titans and later the Outsiders [….] Grayson's Nightwing costume was a high-tech suit specially designed for his high-flying acrobatic style [….]Held in spring-loaded pouches in the back of his costume, Dick carried a pair of Eskrima truncheons made from an unbreakable polymer that were wielded as both offensive and defensive weapons.” (Wikipedia 2013).

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-Rulings and Clarifications-

• N/A

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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:

• As a Human, Nightwing has these Human Synergies.
• As a Titan, Nightwing has these Titan Synergies.

Outgoing Synergy:

• Nightwing can activate Unique Titan and Sidekick Heroes with his Titans Go! special power. Current Unique Titan and Sidekick Heroes.

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-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-

Immunities

• N/A

Benefits

• N/A

Weaknesses

• As a figure with a Special Attack, Nightwing interacts differently with certain special powers. Current Special Powers that Interact Differently with Special Attacks.

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

• Teen Titans faction strategy guide

-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

• Initial Playtest: (IAmBatman)
• Second Playtest: (Scapemage)
• Third Playtest: (Blink)
• Art by Scapemage
• Mini Pics/Comic Art/Background

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

NAME = NIGHTWING
SECRET IDENTITY = DICK GRAYSON

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TITAN
PERSONALITY = DARING

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = 200

TITANS GO!
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, before taking a turn with Nightwing, you may first reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card and take a turn with up to two other Unique Titan or Sidekick Heroes you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Nightwing. You may activate the chosen Heroes in any order.

ESCRIMA ASSAULT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
Choose up to two figures to attack. Roll 3 attack dice once for all affected figures. Each figure rolls defense dice separately. After attacking with this special attack, Nightwing may attack with this special attack one additional time.

ACROBATIC MASTERY
Nightwing never takes falling damage and is never attacked when leaving an engagement. After rolling attack dice for a normal attack or after rolling defense dice, for each shield rolled you may immediately move Nightwing one space up to 6 levels up or down. When Nightwing rolls defense dice against an opponent's attack, one shield will block all damage.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Love it! At first I was sad that he wouldn't work with Robin, but then I realized he works with TWO Robins!

 

[johnny139]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Not a huge fan of Acrobatic Mastery... I think Maneuver should be fine here. Maybe tack on Disengage if we're really set on it.

Love the bonding and general feel, though.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Not a huge fan of Acrobatic Mastery... I think Maneuver should be fine here. Maybe tack on Disengage if we're really set on it.

With no Bat-Grapple at all, I think it'd be nice for him to be able to defy elevation on his turn, not just defensively. I also like it as a way to show him progressing in skill as a character.

I'm a fan, obviously, but I'll hold and see what the rest of the gang thinks.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Love it! At first I was sad that he wouldn't work with Robin, but then I realized he works with TWO Robins!

Yep. Or Raven and Starfire. Or Red Robin and Robin. Etc., etc.

I'm hoping that even without being a Vigilante, he'll find a nice home in either Titans armies, Vigilante/Sidekick armies, or Vigilante/Titan/Sidekick armies.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Potential backgrounds:

 

[quozl]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Not a huge fan of Acrobatic Mastery... I think Maneuver should be fine here. Maybe tack on Disengage if we're really set on it.

With no Bat-Grapple at all, I think it'd be nice for him to be able to defy elevation on his turn, not just defensively. I also like it as a way to show him progressing in skill as a character.

I'm a fan, obviously, but I'll hold and see what the rest of the gang thinks.

 

[Scapemage]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

We've discussed this one, no changes here.
I snapped pictures of this mini too:

 

[A3n]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Looks good bats. I understand what you are doing with Acrobatic Mastery & agree with it, but kind of think it reads a bit clunky in that first sentence it's about defense dice then it's about attack & defense dice. I can't think of any way around to achieve the same outcome so I'm fine with it.

 

[A3n]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Um what's the difference between the red or the blue with black suits? Because the newer clix is better looking (just that it's red which I didn't know Knightwing ever wore).

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Um what's the difference between the red or the blue with black suits? Because the newer clix is better looking (just that it's red which I didn't know Knightwing ever wore).

Just different time periods. I've chosen the middle time period (between the original suit and the current, red one). I prefer it overall myself, but mostly I chose it to go with the mini we already have pictures of and the mini that was recommended to me by johnny/LP on this one.

 

[Hahma]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Looks pretty awesome.

I'm good with Mastery and understand the wording. The first line basically establishes how he avoids damage and the rest of it establishes what he can do with the dice results.

I'm also fine with Mastery and adding the ability to use it on his turn because like Bats said, it show maturity/progression in skills, but also and equally or more important is that it works with his normal attack and not with the nasty double special attack. He would use the special attack when engaged anyway, so this is mostly going to be used with his ranged attack and since it's after rolling attack dice, it's not going to gain him height advantage for that attack if he didn't already have it.

Should be fun.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Great analysis! Looking like we're feeling pretty good about what's in the SP as a whole so far.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Sent to ERB. Initial some time this week, hopefully.

 

[Scapemage]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Mind if I take this one? I've still got to pay it forward for Johnny's good deed.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

I'd rather you grab Bouncing Boy from A3n if you're really looking to take one on .... This is one I've been looking forward to for a bit, honestly.

 

[Scapemage]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Sure thing.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Thanks.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Good stuff, David!

I'll take another look at the wording on Titans, Go!

Can't wait to get him on the battlefield with some of those Sidekicks and Titans! I think it's going to be extra spicy.

Cheers,
Bats

Nightwing

Those are pretty tasty, especially with the Buffalo sauce.

Huh?

Oh,

Titans Go! to Sushi Train!

X-Marker should probably be “X” Order Marker.

That should bond nicely!

Escrima Assault Special Attack

Nice double strike against double figures for double fun.

Acrobatic Master

Similar to Robin’s (Dick Grayson) Acrobatic Maneuver, but this also applies to normal attack rolls, and the falling/engagement provisions aren’t restricted to just movement using this ability. Pretty neat, especially with the provision for normal attacks. This is fantastic, because a whiffed attack with shields would allow you to reposition.

Final Thoughts

We have a nice lineup of Titans now (Sidekicks as well), so Nightwing should prove to be a popular draft. I suspect some folks will cheer when this hits playtesting.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Good stuff, V! We'll definitely make sure to thoroughly test him out!

Cheers,
Bats

Ah, Nightwing, yeah! Thoughts below:

Here's another one for you guys! Once the original Robin, Batman for a while, Dick Grayson's most iconic role at this point might be that of Nightwing! Long time leader of the Teen Titans and Outsiders, and Vigilante on his own right!

I look forward to reading your thoughts as always!

Thanks,
Bats

NAME = NIGHTWING
SECRET IDENTITY = DICK GRAYSON

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TITAN
PERSONALITY = DARING
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4
MOVE = 6
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 3
POINTS = 190?

TITANS GO!
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, before taking a turn with Nightwing, you may first reveal the X-Marker on this card and take a turn with up to two other Titan or Sidekick Unique Heroes you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Nightwing. You may activate the chosen Heroes in any order.

[Wow, that's pretty solid, isn't it? Three activations on one OM? That seems like quite a power--in high point games, as more Titans are made, this might lead to a pretty solid team. I trust you to test it, but that seems solid, to me.]


ESCRIMA ASSAULT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 4.
Choose up to two figures to attack. Roll 4 attack dice once for all affected figures. Each figure rolls defense dice separately. After attacking with this special attack, Nightwing may attack with this special attack one additional time.

[Nice. I like it.]


ACROBATIC MASTERY
When Nightwing rolls defense dice against an opponent's attack, one shield will block all damage. After rolling attack dice for a normal attack or after rolling defense dice, for each shield rolled you may immediately move Nightwing one space up to 6 levels up or down. Nightwing never takes falling damage or leaving engagement attacks.

[Have we done this before? I don't recall the attack dice part before. I'll admit that it confused me at first, blending in both attack and defense rolls into one power. I don't think it's a big deal--certainly a player can read it and remember, but it seems odd to mix what feels like two different powers into one. Your call.

I'm glad to see you limit it to normal attacks--that should help balance things. And it makes him a fun unit to play, I assume, when he stays at range and can keep adjusting as he repositions for future shots. Seems fun, just a little oddly couched in the middle of what it otherwise a defense power.]

Thanks for sharing. I'm glad to see him coming out. I trust you to dial him in just right. All best, V

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (NIGHTWING)

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
PASS

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
PASS

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
PASS

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
PASS

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
PASS

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
PASS

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
PASS

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
PASS

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
PASS

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 190-210.
- Give a brief overview. Yipes! He’s coming in a bit high, due largely to the Acrobatic Mastery keeping him alive so well. I think what I’m going to do moving forward is put his normal attack back up to 4 and put his special attack down to 3. I’d like to keep him at 200 or under even with his Titans Go power in play.

Spoiler Alert!

TEST 1
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing vs. Red Robin (160)
This was like a competition to see who could roll the worst defense! Red Robin brought the Bat Shuriken and got off the first attack – 3 skulls from height – and Nightwing absolutely whiffed. Then Nightwing climbed to even height and used his Escrima on Red Robin, who whiffed against the first 2 skull attack, then rolled 1 shield on 5 dice against the second attack, which was 3 skulls. Short and ugly!
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Nightwing with 3 Wounds wins Turn 4, Round 1.

TEST 2
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing vs. Red Robin (160)
This time, Nightwing rolled great on attack, hitting Red Robin from height for a quick 3 wounds, then used his Acrobatic Mastery to put Red Robin’s Bo Staff to waste, then finished Red Robin with the first of his Escrima attacks. Brutal.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Nightwing with Full Life wins Turn 5, Round 1.

TEST 3
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing vs. Huntress (170)
Huntress rolled well on defense, but Nightwing only needed to roll one shield each time, and even with Huntress getting extra attacks each time with her crossbow, he never missed. Her Ruthless Counter Strike was worthless here, thanks to his Escrima, which was a major disadvantage for her.
Realizing here that Nightwing will use his special attack in engagement every time, I’m dropping his normal attack by one. He doesn’t need to hit that hard from range!
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Nightwing with Full Life wins Turn 2, Round 2.

TEST 4
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing vs. Huntress (170)
A tough match up for Huntress is even tougher due to Reckless Engagement and how easily Nightwing can be the only figure adjacent to her one-on-one.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Nightwing with Full Life wins Turn 1, Round 2.

TEST 5
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing vs. Daredevil (180)
Daredevil goes 0-5 on Radar Sense, whereas Nightwing misses his defense only once.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Nightwing with 2 Wounds wins Turn 1, Round 2.

TEST 6
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing vs. Daredevil (180)
Daredevil hit his only Radar Sense roll here, got height, then rolled 4 skulls on his attack against Nightwing, who whiffed on his first defensive roll!
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Daredevil with Full Life wins Turn 3, Round 1.

TEST 7
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing vs. Black Canary (190)
Black Canary rolled really well on defense here, but just couldn’t break through Nightwing’s defenses.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Nightwing with Full Life wins Turn 4, Round 2.

TEST 8
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing vs. Black Canary (190)
Different day, same results. This time, Black Canary’s defenses didn’t hold up as long.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Nightwing with Full Life wins Turn 5, Round 1.

TEST 9
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing vs. Batman (200)
Batman hit his first and only Evasive Strike roll and then followed it up with a 3 skull punch that Nightwing promptly whiffed on!
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Batman with Full Life wins Turn 3, Round 1.

TEST 10
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing vs. Batman (200)
Batman goes a terrible 0 of 8 on Evasive Strike and Nightwing only misses his defensive roll once. Batman rolls terribly in general in this match!
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Nightwing with 1 Wound wins Turn 3, Round 2.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 160?
- Give a brief overview. These guys were a total counter to Nightwing with their auto-wounding abilities!
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing vs. Arkham Inmates x3 (180)

Spoiler Alert!

These guys are an excellent counter to Nightwing! I played him with his special attack at 3 and his normal attack at 4. He took out one Inmate from range and height, then only rolled 2 skulls the second time he used this tactic, and they were blocked, and he took a wound from Aggravated Assault! Then he ended up engaged with two Inmates on the same level and used his special attack. He whiffed on the first attack, though, and took two wounds, before taking both Inmates out with the second attack. Finally, another Inmate attacked him and Nightwing missed his defense, falling to the swarm.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Arkham Asylum Inmates with 2 of 3 squads left win Turn 3, Round 2.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 180?
- Give a brief overview. Nightwing fared better here, but even facing only 6 figures, attrition almost wore him down. Ninja used their range to limit the effectiveness of his special attack.
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing vs. Hand Ninja x2 (170)

Spoiler Alert!

Ninja stuck around for Nightwing to whiff three times, but not four. Without their bonding, they’re worth a little less. I could see Nightwing at about 170-180 without Titans, Go! and 190-200 with it. If he comes in stronger during army tests, bumping his normal attack down to 3 can help.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Nightwing with 3 Wounds wins Turn 4, Round 4.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 190 felt balanced.
- Give a brief overview. Loving Nightwing with the Titans, especially Raven! Titans, Go! is really what’s needed to take the Titans to the area of a competitive team. Just having that one flexible triple activation per round is awesome. Nightwing took out two Gorilla City Warriors, put two wounds on Gorilla Grodd, two wounds on Firefly, and four wounds on Deathstroke here (all of which Deathstroke healed). This was closer than it looked, and tons of fun!
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing (190), Kid Flash (110), Cyborg (200), Raven (190), Starfire (210), Beast Boy (60) Beast form Pterodactyl (40) (1,000) vs. Gorilla City Warriors x3 (375), Gorilla Grodd (225), Deathstroke (280), Firefly (120) (1,000)

Spoiler Alert!

Nightwing did a lot of damage here and led his team well, but he also got at least two numbered Order Markers most rounds. In Round 1, the Titans worked together well and managed to take out four Gorilla City Warriors. Meanwhile, Gorilla Grodd hit his first Cognizant Control roll (he missed his only other two) and Cyborg unloosed his Charged Sonic Cannon on the startzone. Starfire and Nightwing both defended well, but Beast Boy and Kid Flash both took 3 wounds early on. Over the course of the game, Beast Boy healed all three of these wounds with his Healing Factor, and Raven took four wounds total from Kid Flash with Team Empath. She moved five wounds in all from her card onto enemies, including three onto Gorilla Grodd and two onto Deathstroke.
By Round 2, Starfire fell to Gorilla Grodd’s mighty fists (she became an early target due to Protective Fury getting unleashed early with all the wounds caused by Cyborg’s start zone attack). Two additional Gorilla City Warriors fell as well. Then, in Round three, both Beast Boy and Cyborg fell to big attacks from the Simians. In Round 4, another Gorilla City Warrior fell, then Raven, Kid Flash, and Nightwing finally finished off Gorilla Grodd in Round 5, but Deathstroke avenged his ally by killing off Kid Flash.
Firefly never got an Order Marker and ended up being a damage soak as a precursor to Raven and Nightwing facing off against Deathstroke. In the end, even with Team Empath and Escrima Assault stymying Deathstroke’s Calculated Defense, Deathstroke just outlasted both Titans and tore them down with normal attack after normal attack.
Deathstroke healed 6 wounds in all during the game.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Deathstroke with Full Life wins Turn 5, Round 9.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? I could still see 190, but his army did not have a great game.
- Give a brief overview. Nightwing was out by Round 3 here. The villains winning initiative in three of the first four rounds let Joker’s Reorganized Chaos really devastate the heroes here!
Map: Custom
Units: Batman (200), Alfred (60), Nightwing (190), Robin (Damian) (80), Red Robin (160), Oracle (110), Speedy (Roy) (90), Kid Flash (110) (1,000) vs. Clayface (240), Hush (220), Joker (190), Harley Quinn (130), Two-Face (140), Mad Hatter (90) (1,000)

Spoiler Alert!

Joker, Harley Quinn, and Clayface led the assault for their side, and ended up being the only figures activated. Hush put out a hit on Batman early and Red Robin selected the Bat Shuriken.
Oracle and Nightwing didn’t manage to work that well together here, and it was tougher thanks to Reorganized Chaos (used 5 times overall, and 3 times in the first 4 rounds).
Batman also rolled poorly for Evasive Strike (1 of 6) and Alfred rolled poorly for Field Medic rolls (1 of 4), but did use his Remote Extraction to remove a wound from Batman in the early going.
Robin (Damian) dropped first, in Round 1, then on a rather small map and thanks to Joker throwing extra OMs at her, Oracle ended up overexposed and fell in Round 2. Harley’s bomb had done a lot of damage to both of these heroes, and she was in the hero startzone going after Alfred, when Nightwing managed to use his Escrima to double attack her and Clayface. He only put one wound on Clayface, but managed to take Harley down, thanks to poor Acrobatic Manuever rolls on her part.
Clayface managed to engulf Nightwing, though, making it very easy to take him out in Round 3.
From there, Clayface tore up Speedy in Round 4, and Red Robin rolled terribly on attacks before getting taken out in Round 5. Batman and Alfred put on a brave showing, with Alfred’s shotgun putting 4 of 6 wounds on Joker, but other than piling three more wounds on Clayface (one with Evasive Strike) and finishing off Joker, they just couldn’t muster much offense here.
Not a great showing at all. Reorganized Chaos + Clayface + poor D20 and combat dice rolls were too much for the Batman family to overcome.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Clayface with 4 Wounds, Hush with Full Life, Two-Face with Full Life, and Mad Hatter with Full Life win Turn 3, Round 7.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 190 felt good! Raven’s dominance shook this one up, not Nightwing’s. This helps balance out the last army test, though!
- Give a brief overview. This was closer than it looked, with Raven the clear MVP here! Her Team Empath and Soul Self combination allowed her to heal 4 wounds from Nightwing, 2 wounds from Speedy, and convert 5 of her own wounds into wounds for the opponent, including 2 on Professor X. Auto-wounds are the bane of the Professor X builds, and Raven was able to do that. In retrospect, I should have targeted her earlier, then followed with Nightwing!
Map: Custom
Units: Nightwing (190), Kid Flash (110), Speedy (Roy) (90), Wonder Girl (140), Starfire (210), Raven (190), Aqualad (60) (990) vs. Professor X, Cyclops, Beast, Jean Grey, Angel, Nightcrawler (990)

Spoiler Alert!

Nightwing had a good showing here, lasting until the end and putting 2 wounds on Angel, 2 wounds on Jean Grey, 2 wounds on Beast, and 1 wound on Nightcrawler, as well as using his Titans, Go! power to good success. I think this might be the strongest Titans build I’ve played yet, with all seven figures complementing each other well.
Were I to play this over, I would have targeted Raven more early on, rather than letting her have plenty of ally wounds to play with and send back in my direction! She’s just too dangerous when left unchecked.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Nightwing with Full Life, Speedy with Full Life, and Raven with 3 Wounds win Turn 3, Round 8.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

Got heavy hitters done and he's coming in a little strong! Like 190-210 even without Titans, Go! coming into play. So I've reduced his special attack to 3 in hopes of helping.

 

[SirGalahad]

Re: The Book of Nightwing - Design Phase

A little worried about the 3 activations per OM.