The Book of Mister Terrific (Terry Sloane)

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

I'd lock down the "on a card you control" in the last part of that first sentence, to avoid bad interactions with powers that let you reveal OMs on opponents' cards.

Looks good, though I worry that the improvement of the first bullet makes it so you'd rarely ever use the other two powers.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

Well, I found the third option to be good early game, and the second one is very situational..like say if you need to heal someone with Mid-Nite

 

[Viegon]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

Works for me.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

Well, I found the third option to be good early game, and the second one is very situational..like say if you need to heal someone with Mid-Nite

I'd be interested to hear from TB how useful he found the second one. Since it's restricted to the faction, I think it might be OK to make it a change of 2 instead of 1 to help encourage it more.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

I was just wondering that as it is faction specific.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

An interesting combo that I just thought of was pairing him with a lock-down figure to possibly capitalize on him boosting your figures..like say throwing in Blob along with your Mystery Men.

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

See, I feel like the three aspects always on is more thematic. It's not like Terry sacrificed an ability to learn a new one, he just had both a photographic memory and incredible athletic ability. The idea of choosing an effect makes it seem more like Ultra Boy than Mr. Terrific.

 

[TrollBrute]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

Ok, here's what I'm thinking. I boosted the attack/defense portion of MoaTT as it seemed thematically odd that he would boost others better than he does himself. I'm ameniable to tweaking his defense down if we feel it's warranted. I also boosted all ranges to 6 and made the numbered OM change. Thoughts?

MAN OF A THOUSAND TALENTS
After revealing a numbered Order Marker on a card you control, you may choose one of the following to be in effect until the next time you reveal a numbered Order Marker on a card you control:

• When Mister Terrific attacks with a normal attack you may re-roll any dice that did not show skulls once per attack, or when defending against a normal attack, you may re-roll any dice that did not show shields once per attack; or
• When Mister Terrific or a Mystery Man Hero within 6 clear sight spaces rolls the 20-sided die, you may add or subtract 1 from that roll; or
• Choose an opponent’s figure within 6 clear sight spaces of Mister Terrific. Whenever an Order Marker is revealed on the chosen figure's Army Card, you may immediately move Mister Terrific or a Mystery Man Hero you control within clear sight of Mister Terrific up to 4 spaces.

CHAMPION OF ALL THINGS FAIR
If a Mystery Man or Civilian you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Mister Terrific is attacked and rolls no shields, the defending figure may re-roll all defense dice once.

The first option will be much better, and I think we may need to drop his Defense to 4 to compensate. I can work in a game or two today with this if you want.

Looks good, though I worry that the improvement of the first bullet makes it so you'd rarely ever use the other two powers.

Depends on whether you're actively using him or not. If not, the second or third will often be better.

I'd be interested to hear from TB how useful he found the second one. Since it's restricted to the faction, I think it might be OK to make it a change of 2 instead of 1 to help encourage it more.

I was only able to get him in with Starman, and needing to activate Terrific made it much harder to use, so it never came up. Putting him in with Hawkman, Starman, Sandman, and Doc Mid-Nite will really help on that front though.

An interesting combo that I just thought of was pairing him with a lock-down figure to possibly capitalize on him boosting your figures..like say throwing in Blob along with your Mystery Men.

Eh, no more than lockdown units ever help, and probably less. Most of the faction is melee, so you can't hit them from range, and if we bump the range on the boosts to 5 or 6, it'll be easy to keep them together.

 

[TrollBrute]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

Alright, got one game in with Hawkman, added it to my other tests. I used the stats in the SP and the above changes to the powers. Overall, I think that the changes to the powers work well. I still didn't whiff, but the D20 boost was nice, and I like change to the first option, though I would lower his Defense to 4 to keep him from getting out of hand with stat-boosters. If we did that, I think we could lower his cost to 140 for further testing.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

Sounds good to me and I was thinking we might need to drop his defense 1.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

I'm cool with that.

 

[Viegon]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

4 defense at 140 sounds good.

 

[TrollBrute]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

I'll add that 140 might be too low, or we might need to tweak the power back down, but I think it's on the right track.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

Sorry, been super busy the past few days. Any thoughts on whether 2 or 1 is better for the D-20 boost @TrollBrute?

 

[TrollBrute]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

Sorry, been super busy the past few days. Any thoughts on whether 2 or 1 is better for the D-20 boost @TrollBrute?

Well +2 is twice is good as +1. Limited as it is to Mystery Men, it's probably fine either way, though his cost may come up at +2. Even at +1, I got two uses out of it in the last game I played with him.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

Sorry, been super busy the past few days. Any thoughts on whether 2 or 1 is better for the D-20 boost @TrollBrute?

Well +2 is twice is good as +1. Limited as it is to Mystery Men, it's probably fine either way, though his cost may come up at +2. Even at +1, I got two uses out of it in the last game I played with him.

I really just want to see Mid-Nite be a more viable option than he currently is. If you think the +1 accomplishes that, I'm more than happy to move forward as is.

 

[TrollBrute]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

Sorry, been super busy the past few days. Any thoughts on whether 2 or 1 is better for the D-20 boost @TrollBrute?

Well +2 is twice is good as +1. Limited as it is to Mystery Men, it's probably fine either way, though his cost may come up at +2. Even at +1, I got two uses out of it in the last game I played with him.

I really just want to see Mid-Nite be a more viable option than he currently is. If you think the +1 accomplishes that, I'm more than happy to move forward as is.

I mean, it's not like it's an amazing boost, but it's solid, and it's not hard to set up with the current version and Hawkman. Speaking of, Hawkman does a lot for Mid-Nite, and I think makes him fine in a Mystery Man build.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

Cool. I'll post the tests I ran shortly link them and yours in the OP and then we have the 24 hr wait.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Mister Terrific (Terry)

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 140-150?
- Give a brief overview. He underperformed here a little, but seemed to mostly hold his own, but this result was to be expectedas he will shine best in a Mystery Man build.
Map: Highways and Dieways

Spoiler Alert!

TEST 1
Units: Terrific Vs. Batman (Terry) (150)
In Round 1 Terrific gave Terry 2 wounds and Terry gave Terrific 3 wounds. In Round 2 turn 1 Terrific finished off Terry.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Mister Terrific with 3/4 wounds.

TEST 2
Units:Terrific Vs. Batman (Terry) (150)
In Round 1 Terrific hit Terry for 3 wounds and then Terry disengaged taking height and took out Terrific in turn 3.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Batman (Terry) with 3/4 wounds.

TEST 3
Units: Terrific Vs. Black Knight (150)
Round 1 ended with Terrific unwounded and Black bearing 2 wounds. In Round 2 Terrific couldn't touch Black and in turn 3 Black finished off Terrific.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Black Knight with 2/4 wounds.

TEST 4
Units: Terrific Vs. Black Knight (150)
Round 1 ended with Terrific bearing 3 wounds and Black bearing 2. In Round 2 turn 1 Black finished off Terrific.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Black Knight with 2/4 wounds.

TEST 5
Units: Terrific Vs. Crimson Dynamo (150)
Round 1 Turn 3 Crimson took out Terrific.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Crimson Dynamo won bearing 1/4 wounds.

TEST 6
Units: Terrific Vs. Crimson Dynamo (150)
In Round 1 turn 3 Crimson took out Terrific.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Crimson Dynamo won with 0/4 wounds.

TEST 7
Units: Terrific Vs. Human Torch (Jim) (150)
Round 1 ended with Terrific bearing 3 wounds and Torch 1 wound. In Round 2 turn 1Torch finished off Terrific.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Human Torch won with 3/5 wounds.

TEST 8
Units: Terrific Vs. Human Torch (Jim) (150)
Round 1 ended with Terrific bearing 1 wound and Torch unwounded. In Round 2 turn 3 Terrific gave Torch a wound and Torch finished off Terrifc.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Human Torch won with 1/5 wounds.

TEST 9
Units: Terrific Vs. Iron Man MKII (150)
Round 1 ended with Terrific bearing 2 wounds and Iron Man bearing 2 wounds. In Round 2 turn 1 Terrific finished off Iron Man.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Terrific won with 2/4 wounds.

TEST 10
Units: Terrific Vs. Iron Man MKII (150)
Round 1 ended with Terrific unwounded and Iron Man unwounded. In Round 2 turn 1 Iron Man took out Terrific with a 5 skull roll vs a whiff.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Iron Man won with 0/4 wounds.

TEST 11
Units: Terrific Vs. Vixen (150)
Vixen chose Cheetah Power. Round 1 ended with Terrific bearing 2 wounds and Vixen bearing 2 wounds. Vixen chose Bear Power. In Round 2 turn 2 Vixen finished off Terrific.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Vixen won with 2/4 wounds.

TEST 12
Units: Terrific Vs. Vixen (150)
Vixen chose Bear Power. Round 1 ended with Terrific bearing 2 wounds and Vixen bearing 3. Vixen chose Rhino Power. In Round 2 turn 1 Terrific finished off Vixen.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Terrific won with 2/4 wounds.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 150-160?
- Give a brief overview.
Terrific performed much better her, but with such a low attack, the Thugs only real hope was numbers.
Map: Highways and Dieways
Units: Mister Terrific (150) Vs. 2xStreet Thugs (150)

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1 ended with Terrific bearing 1 wound and 1 Thug lost to disengage. Round 2 ended with no change in Terrific's wounds and 2 Thugs fallen to Terrific. Round 3 ended with no change tovTerrific's wounds and 3 more Thugs fallen to Terrific. In Round 4 turn 2 Terrific finished off the last Thug.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Terrific won with 1/4 wounds.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 150
- Give a brief overview. The Blood Demon's equal stats and greater numbers gave them a distinct advantage here.
Map: Highways and Dieways
Units: Mister Terrific (150) Vs. 1xBlood Demons (160)

Spoiler Alert!

In Round 1 turn 3 the Demons took out Terrific.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? The Blood Demons won with all 3 remaining.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

Alright, tests are linked and SP is updated.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

pre-yea for Playtesting. He's going to be a tricky one to get just write given the initial, but I'm ready to see him in the hands of the Danger Room for more factional tests.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Initial Playt

I propose we move to public playtesting

IAmBatman - Yea
@TrollBrute - Yea
@Viegon - Yea
@johnny139 - Yea
@SirGalahad - Yea

 

[johnny139]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Vote for Publ

Yea

Are we doing another Danger Room wave with him or full public?

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Vote for Publ

Pretty sure we're planning to do him, Hawkman, and Power Girl in the Danger Room. And things are clear there right now, so we just need the votes to go through.

 

[TrollBrute]

Re: The Book of Mister Terrific - Terry Sloane(Vote for Publ

Yea