The Book of Megatron

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Public PT

Quick exchange I had with LV about the tests.

Actually I do have a question after all. He did pretty good with his Hand Cannon in those two games, 14 wounds inflicted in all, but the only other heroes in your army were the Skull Infiltrators (who don't start the game on the board). Were the dice really hot for the SA's, or were you just able to set up a Skrull to use the SA a bunch of times?

Yeah. With 5 Skrulls and a lot of Invaders it was pretty easy to have then dropping in on the front lines. And the dice were very hot. I think I note it in the test, I know I got at least 1 8 skull roll in there.

Thanks, that's great to hear. Neither me nor Bats really had very good dice when using the SA so it's good to see the game impact where they were rolling a bit hot.

Yeah, once they started (Round 2 and Round 3 respectively I believe) it was firing about every round. Second game I went all in on 10 dice pretty consistently, but game one saw more of the 6/4 split.

I asked this question a bit prematurely though. Now I've read through all the details in his report and I have a better picture of what went down. Fan4 had some pretty poor luck in the first game, Reed went down by the end of R2 and then Johnny kept missing all his rolls after that. In the 2nd game, it wasn't so much bad luck by the Avengers but good luck by Megatron. Some good SA rolls in that one. An 8 skull attack that took out Cap, and a 5 skull attack that finished off a 3W Carol. I really liked seeing Megatron knock an OM off of Cap card in that one, but then Prime saves it. Feeling better about him at 410 now.

 

[Tornado]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Public PT

Maybe continue as is. You may want to try that army yourself.

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Public PT

Maybe continue as is. You may want to try that army yourself.

Just a FYI, I just added a little more of the conversation to the post above. I ran Megatron with the Invaders in my initial, no Skrull's though that was a nice touch, and felt okay about it. I would like to see one more set of tests though since we just tweaked the aura range for Cower. I can ask the next tester to use the Invaders in one of their games if others want to see more from that combo.

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Public PT

Two more AI tests from Arch here, two loses. Feeling pretty good about where he's at.

I ended up running the same Arthrian army both times since it worked fairly well the first time. Both tests were reasonably close.

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Megatron

Army Test
Map: Embattled Fen
Units: Megatron (410), Arthrian Invaders x3 (540), Professor Zoom (250) (1200) vs Captain America I, Green Arrow I, Doctor Strange, Wolverine, Black Panther (1180)

Spoiler Alert!

The game started off with the Avengers slow-rolling out of the start zone, while Megatron moved his entire group of Arthrian Invaders with him twice. Professor Zoom used the last order marker to catch up with Megatron so that Zoom could be used for the Hand Cannon Special Attack. Green Arrow tried a shot at Zoom, but despite rolling 4 skulls against Zoom’s 2 dice, Zoom managed to roll a blank.

Megatron and the Arthrians were absolute beasts early on. The Arthrians caught up with Green Arrow and destroyed him over a couple turns. Cower Before Megatron was not happening the first couple rounds. Megatron was doing a steady stream of damage to Doctor Strange, but it was slow going thanks to Magical Defense. Meanwhile, the Avengers were trying to thin the herd of Arthrians (tricky since only Cap had multi-attacks) and Strange managed a couple wounds on Megatron.

When Doctor Strange was about to fall, the Avengers sent in Black Panther to finish off the penulitmate bug then engage Megatron. With his Arthrians almost all dead, Megatron had to resort to bringing back Arthrians instead of attacking with or moving them. However, he first had Zoom use Hand Cannon to finish off Strange at the end of one round, then heavily wound Captain America at the start of the next round. Megatron then rolled a slew of great Cower Before Megatron rolls, taking an entire round for himself. It seemed unwinnable for the Avengers at one point, as a 5-wound Megatron had just brought back all the Arthrians plus Captain America and Black Panther were each down to 1 life. Desperate, the Avengers decided to leave Captain America and let Black Panther do all the attacking this round. The Avengers won initiative and Black Panther managed to kill Megatron in the first turn thanks to a lucky roll.

The Arthrians were not a threat at this point with their master dead. Captain America killed almost all the bugs while Zoom finished off Black Panther. Zoom killed Cap, leaving only Wolverine left against Zoom and 1 Arthrian.

Zoom engaged Wolverine and did 4 wounds in one attack. Wolverine did 2 damage to Zoom and healed 1 wound of his own. Zoom did 2 damage, then Wolverine finished Zoom off. It was easy for Wolverine to finish off the last bug at that point.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Wolverine with 1 wound wins!

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Army Test
Map: Embattled Fen
Units: Megatron (410), Arthrian Invaders x3 (540), Professor Zoom (250) (1200) vs Aquaman I, Mera, Green Lantern Hal Jordan, Iron Man Hasbro, Spider-Man Hasbro (1190)

Spoiler Alert!

Megatron and his bugs move out. Aquaman, Mera, and Iron Man lead for the heroes, killing two Arthrians. Zoom attacks Aquaman but he blocks it.

Megatron + the Arthrians is a potent offensive force. They take out Iron Man, put 2 wounds on Mera, and put 1 wound on Aquaman. Iron Man killed 1 Arthrian and Aquaman put 2 wounds on Megatron.

Hal charges in and puts 2 wounds on Megatron. The Arthrians kill Mera. Aquaman puts 2 more wounds on Megatron and heals his own wound, which Megatron puts right back on. Hal kills the Arthrian that engaged him. Megatron uses his last turn to res an Arthrian and put another wound on Aquaman. Wannok puts a wound on Spidey.

Megatron gets an initiative switch and uses the Arthrians and himself to kill Aquaman. Hal disengages an Arthrian (taking a wound) then attacks Megatron, killing him. Megatron loses the rest of his Order Markers, but the heroes lost OM2 on Aquaman as well. Hal uses the final turn to kill the Arthrian on Wannok.

Zoom rolls 3 skulls against Hal, and Hal takes 2 wounds. Hal puts 3 wounds on Zoom, then takes another turn with Fearless Charge which Zoom dodges. Zoom burns a battery marker of Hal’s, then Hal kills the evil speedster. It’s easy pickings after that.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Hal Jordan with 3 wounds/3 battery markers & Spider-Man with 1 wound win!

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Megatron + Arthrians is not as strong as it seems in the early game because the whole army falls apart once Megatron dies. My idea with Zoom was to have him as a fast defensive hero to use the Hand Cannon with, which worked decently well despite two losses. Cower Before Megatron is a terrifying power because it can shut you down. I learned to spread order markers and keep the X handy so Megatron had a chance at removing that one. Winning initiative is pretty crucial for Cower Before Megatron.

I wouldn’t raise Megatron’s points based on my tests, but I wouldn’t lower them either. Megatron is a very powerful figure especially when he starts removing order markers. I wonder if more or fewer Arthrians might make a stronger army, and maybe even omitting Zoom or other heroes (despite losing Hand Cannon, that would give you more Arthrians to attack with).

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Very thematic. I love the theme of Cower Before Megatron (I was having fun saying that in a Megatron voice when using the power), and Hand Cannon is a hilarious way to represent Megatron’s transformation. The stats felt suitably high. Megatron is a very popular figure and I think you nailed it.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Public PT

Looking good! Are we ready for a recap and a vote?

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Public PT

I think so, but I've got some things to do this afternoon so I'll call for the vote later tonight. Pre-yea's are welcome though.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Public PT

I'll hold for the recap just to be sure.

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Public PT

Initial Tests: Cower at 17+, with +6 max, 4 space aura
@410 (w/AI): Narrow Win
@420: Solid Loss
@430: Big Loss

Public Test 1: Cower at 15+, with +5 max, 4 space aura
@410: Huge Loss
@410: Close Win

Public Test 2: Cower at 15+, with +5 max, 6 space aura
@410 (w/AI): Solid Win
@410 (w/AI): Huge Win

Public Test 3: Cower at 15+, with +5 max, 6 space aura
@410 (w/AI): Close Loss
@410 (w/AI): Solid Loss

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Public PT

I propose Megatron for Final Editing at 410

YK - yea
Karat - yea
Ronin - yea
Tornado - yea
Scape - yea
IAmBatman - yea

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote Final Editing!

Yea

 

[Ronin]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote Final Editing!

yea

 

[Tornado]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote Final Editing!

Yea

 

[Ronin]

Edits:

COWER BEFORE MEGATRON
After moving Megatron, you may choose a figure within 6 clear sight spaces of Megatron that is not Valiant and has at least one unrevealed Order Marker on its card. Roll the 20-sided die, adding 1 to your roll for each figure you control engaged with a figure in the chosen figure's army, up to a maximum of +5. If you roll 15 or higher, remove one unrevealed Order Marker from the chosen figure's card.

Plaintext:

COWER BEFORE MEGATRON
After moving Megatron, you may choose a figure within 6 clear sight spaces of Megatron that is not Valiant and has at least one unrevealed Order Marker on its card. Roll the 20-sided die, adding 1 to your roll for each figure you control engaged with a figure in the chosen figure's army, up to a maximum of +5. If you roll 15 or higher, remove one unrevealed Order Marker from the chosen figure's card.

Think the other two powers are fine.

 

[Ronin]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote Final Editing!

Synergy:

-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:

• As a Marvel figure, Megatron has these Marvel Synergies.
• As a Cybertronian, Megatron has these Cybertronian Synergies.
• As a Conqueror, Megatron has these Conqueror Synergies.
• As a figure with the Super Strength special power, Megatron has these Super Strength Synergies.

Outgoing Synergy:

• N/A

Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:

• As a huge figure, Megatron interacts differently with these special powers.
• As a figure with the Super Strength special power, Megatron interacts differently with these special powers.
• Megatron's P38 Handgun Transformation special power allows him to choose a friendly Hero to use his Hand Cannon Special Attack. The chosen Hero cannot be a tiny Hero.
• Figures using Megatron's Hand Cannon Special Attack will interact differently with these special powers.
• Megatron's Cower Before Megatron special power does not affect Valiant figures.

 

[Scapemage]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote Final Editing!

Yea For Final Editing. 410 seems like the safe option so I am in favor. Cards coming soon.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote Final Editing!

yea. This passes.

 

[Scapemage]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote Final Editing!

Cards are up.

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote Final Editing!

Sweet, I like the steely grey boarder and the Decipticon emblem purplish blue combo! I think I technically have to wait 24 hours to see if anyone cast a hold or nay vote, but once that lapse's I'll call for the On Deck vote then.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote Final Editing!

I'm not sure that's a real thing. Are you sure there's a 24 hour waiting period after it goes into Final Editing? Usually we just wait until the cards are up and make sure there are no issues.

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote Final Editing!

Yeah, you may be right. It's the On Deck vote where all the active heroes must vote on.

I propose Megatron for On Deck!
@Tornado - yea
@Ronin - yea
@Karat - yea
@johnny139 - yea
@Scapemage - yea

 

[Scapemage]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote On Deck!

Yea, purple power!

 

[Ronin]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote On Deck!

yea

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote On Deck!

Yea

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote On Deck!

With T on vacation, is there someone else voting for him that I didn't see the announcement for?

 

[Tornado]

Re: The Book of Megatron - Vote On Deck!

Nope

Yea