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The Book of Megatron

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The Book of Megatron

C3G IDW WAVE 29
CHRISTMAS IN JULY

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Comic PDF

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Mini PDF


The figure used for this unit is a Walmart Exclusive Transformers Titan Guardians non-transforming figure made by Hasbro *sold in store only*.
Its name is MEGATRON.​

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Character Bio - Megatron is the founder of the Decepticon uprising and their most feared leader. He is extremely cruel, ruthless and cunning as well as incredibly strong and intelligent. Megatron is able to transform into a Walther P38, delivering more focused energy blasts than he could in his robotic form. He can adjust his size and mass as he transforms, to comfortably allow another Transformer or even a human being to wield him. His robot form has an arm-mounted fusion cannon. (wikipedia)
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Base Clarification: Megatron is a double-based figure.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:

Outgoing Synergy:
  • N/A
Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:
  • As a huge figure, Megatron interacts differently with these special powers.
  • As a figure with the Super Strength special power, Megatron interacts differently with these special powers.
  • Megatron's P38 Handgun Transformation special power allows him to choose a friendly Hero to use his Hand Cannon Special Attack. The chosen Hero cannot be a tiny Hero.
  • Figures using Megatron's Hand Cannon Special Attack will interact differently with these special powers.
  • Megatron's Cower Before Megatron special power does not affect Valiant figures.
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
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-Heroscapers Community Contributions-
 
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NAME = MEGATRON
SPECIES = CYBERTRONIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CONQUEROR
PERSONALITY = DOMINEERING

 SIZE/HEIGHT = HUGE 15 (DOUBLE-SPACED)

LIFE = 8

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 4
ATTACK = 7
DEFENSE = 7

 POINTS = 410

COWER BEFORE MEGATRON
After moving Megatron, you may choose a figure within 6 clear sight spaces of Megatron that does not have the Valiant personality and has at least one unrevealed Order Marker on its card. Roll the 20-sided die, adding 1 to your roll for each figure you control engaged with a figure in the chosen figure's army, up to a maximum of +5. If you roll 15 or higher, remove one unrevealed Order Marker from the chosen figure's card.

P38 HANDGUN TRANSFORMATION
Once per round, instead of taking a turn with Megatron, you may attack with a Hero you control within 2 clear sight spaces of Megatron that is not tiny. During that attack, it must use Megatron's Hand Cannon Special Attack and cannot use any other special powers.

HAND CANNON SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 4. Attack 4, 6, or 10.
Start the attack with 10 attack dice. You may attack with 4, 6, or 10 attack dice until all 10 attack dice have been rolled. Megatron cannot attack with this special attack.

SUPERSTRENGTH
 
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Pretty happy with were he finally ended up at, the design benefits from having his minions go out and engage the enemy first, then he moves into the fray and starts dominating the battlefield. The Pistol SA lets him use his alternate mode for one big blast (10 dice) or two quick shots off (4 & 6) at reduced power. Same def. & life at Prime. Prime actually bests him in melee combat at 8 vs. 7, but then Megatron has the more powerful gun at 7 vs. 6. Prime can out range him though with Megatron's base range only being 4 v. Prime's 6. I could see that bumping up to range 5 if we felt he needed it but I'm also okay with his huge cannon being really deadly at close range but lacking in distance. Then Prime is immune to his bullying power, but others will fear Megatron and lose their nerve around him. A nice two power card that hits all the theme notes I was going for. I'm heading out of town for a while next Thursday, so I'll try to get the initial done before I leave. I'll be able to still check in and move things along if he's in public testing.
 
I like it! Should there be any restrictions at all on who can carry the pistol? Like should rats be able to carry it? Ant-Man? Would a Medium or larger restriction make sense?
 
Good points. Not sure how to designate who has hands and who doesn't, but a medium, large, or huge restriction should be a fairly good qualifier. We still would have someone like Battlecat that would qualify though.
 
Sure. He could probably do it with his mouth? Lol
 
Awesome!

For the purposes of the SA, we're saying that Megatron is targeting and attacking, but range, etc. are being measured from the chosen figure, right? Might need to vet that against existing defensive powers to make sure it won't cause anything too funky. I really like the concept, though.
 
Yeah. I think it won't be too much trouble to interpret, hopefully. Take Evasive Strike, for instance:

If Batman is attacked by an opponent's figure within 5 clear sight spaces and at least 1 skull is rolled, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-14, roll defense normally. If you roll 15 or higher, Batman takes no damage and the attacking figure receives one wound.
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I think it's pretty clear there that even though it's a range 4 attack, if Megatron is attacking from 6 spaces away (2 spaces from ally who's 4 spaces from Batman) that it'd get around Evasive Strike.

That may be thematically odd, but I think it's mechanically clear.
 
Actually I would have thought since you are measuring range from a figure 4 spaces away, Batman could avoid the att. and deal 1W to Megatron (the actual one doing the attacking) rather then whoever is holding Megatron at the time.

I'd be happy to clarify how it works within the rules with a FAQ once we all agree on how it should work within the rules.
 
Wouldn't it be cleaner to just have the other figure do the attacking?

PISTOL TRANSFORMATION SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 4. Attack 4, 6, or 10.
Instead of attacking with Megatron, choose a friendly figure within 2 clear sight spaces of Megatron. That figure attacks this turn using this special attack. Start the attack with 10 attack dice. You may attack with 4, 6, or 10 attack dice until all 10 attack dice have been rolled. This special attack may only be used if Megatron is not engaged.
 
Yeah, if we wanted that direction it would probably have to be something like this, just to iron out any weird corner cases.

PISTOL FORM
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and moving with Megatron, you may choose a figure you control within 2 clear sight spaces of Megatron. If you do, Megatron's turn ends and you may take an immediate turn with the chosen figure, during which that figure cannot move, must attack with [Whatever Name] special attack, if possible, and cannot use any other special powers on any army card or Glyph.

[WHATEVER NAME] SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 4. Attack 4, 6, or 10.
Start the attack with 10 attack dice. You may attack with 4, 6, or 10 attack dice until all 10 attack dice have been rolled. Megatron cannot attack with this special attack.
 
I wonder if the SA shouldn't be once per round. Being unengaged is a good buffer but a repeatable 10-die attack every turn with range of 6 is pretty nasty.
 
"Attack with [figure]" in C3G is shorthand for "take a turn with [figure] during which they can only attack". It's in the C3G Book of Rules.
 
We had it as a once per round at one point, don't recall why it was changed but I'd be fine with going back to once per round just to keep someone from using it 3 times in a row on you while you are stuck next to Blob or something.
 
For mini background, one thought I had was for it to be a oil drilling platform. I recall the deceptions took over one and turned it into their base in the comics, turning the oil in to Energon cubes somehow. Considering how Prime just covered up the mountains in his pic though I'm not really sure how much the background used really matters for these huge figures. Alternate idea would just be a city skyline.

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Yodaking said:
We had it as a once per round at one point, don't recall why it was changed but I'd be fine with going back to once per round just to keep someone from using it 3 times in a row on you while you are stuck next to Blob or something.
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I believe we depowered something else on him and you removed that restriction to compensate.

I think johnny's wording that you can't use any other special powers on your army card when attacking with that special attack is a necessary part of the equation to avoid TACTICAL DOUBLE ATTACK from being an issue.
 
Two thoughts on the SA.

If we make it a once per round SA, then that eliminates the double attack issue with Diamondback.

I was thinking about Ravage and Laserbeak and they are not going to be small figures, most likely medium, but I've don't recall ever seeing either one hold and fire Megatron's pistol. So what it we broke some new ground here and referenced the figure sculpt itself? The figure sculpt is very much a part of the game and rules, from hit zones to targeting points, the figure silhouette is right on the card after all. So it seems very much in the boundaries of the game. The reference itself would just to be hands, which is a word that everyone knows well and shouldn't be confusing or unclear as to the intent. If anyone is unsure if a certain mutate or alien figure has hands or if they are more like claws, then they can't use the SA.

PISTOL TRANSFORMATION SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 4. Attack 4, 6, or 10.
Instead of attacking with Megatron, choose a medium, large, or huge friendly figure whose miniature features hands within 2 clear sight spaces of Megatron. That figure attacks this turn using this special attack. Start the attack with 10 attack dice. You may attack with 4, 6, or 10 attack dice until all 10 attack dice have been rolled. This special attack may only be used once per round and if Megatron is not engaged.
 
Well what medium are they do you think? Maybe we could reference something like Medium 5 or larger?
 
Definitely uncomfortable with calling out anything on the sculpt that isn't a defined game term. Not in favor of formally defining hands and ruling on which figures have them. That kind of thing has been suggested before and it's just not very "official".

Plus, I don't know, it's never really bugged me that Zabu can work a shrink ray gun, or that Beast Boy in the form of a bear can throw Bat-Shuriken. Don't think most people would really notice or care about Ravage and Laserbeak figuring out a way to fire a gun.
 
Thematically, would Megatron let himself be fired by anyone but a Decepticon?
 
quozl said:
Thematically, would Megatron let himself be fired by anyone but a Decepticon?
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Yes. There is a whole comic issue where Megatron is stuck in his gun from and separated from the other Decipticons. A human finds the gun and starts using it to rob stores and stuff. Pretty sure he let some member of Cobra use his pistol during one of the team up issues too, but I'm not as certain about that.
 
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