The Book of Li'l Lobo

[Lord Pyre]

The Book of Li'l Lobo

C3G DC WAVE 41
CLASH OF THE TITANS

Comic PDF

Mini PDF

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Teen Titans set.
Its model number and name are #017a / Li'l Lobo.​

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Character Bio - While Young Justice battled against Klarion the Witch Boy, Klarion ended it by using magic to swap everyone’s ages. Young Justice became adults and the Justice League became toddlers. Though Young Justice eventually prevailed and forced Klarion to change everyone on Earth back, his specific “on Earth” wording neglected to fix Lobo who was in space at the time. Angry and unable to get himself transformed back, Li’l Lobo somehow got mixed in with Young Justice. He kind of joined the team, sort of helped out, and actually went on a date with Empress. He brought a special brand of muscle along on missions, so even though most of Young Justice was apprehensive, he proved useful. During Darkseid’s massive war, the team was stranded on Apokolips. Pinned down by Parademons all around, it looked grim for Young Justice until Li’l Lobo charged forward, taking on every parademon at once, saving the team, but being gunned down in the process. His blood eventually regenerated a new Lobo who grew back into his adult self, with no memory of his time with Young Justice.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-

• N/A

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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:

• As a Titan, Li'l Lobo has these Titan Synergies.

Outgoing Synergy:

• Li'l Lobo can use his The Top Teen special power to take a turn instead of a Sidekick or Titan you control.

Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:

• N/A

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

• Young Justice Faction Strategy

-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

• Initial playtest: Lord Pyre
• Second playtest: Tornado
• Third playtest: Ronin
• Fourth playtest: IAmBatman
• Art: Comic, Figure, Background
• Art by tcglkn

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo (Breathing)

NAME = LI’L LOBO
SECRET IDENTITY = HE WHO DEVOURS YOUR ENTRAILS AND THOROUGHLY ENJOYS IT

SPECIES = CZARNIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TITAN
PERSONALITY = AGGRESSIVE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 180

THE TOP TEEN
After revealing an Order Marker on the card of any Hero you control that is a Sidekick or Titan, instead of taking a turn with that Hero, you may take a turn with Li'l Lobo. If you do, that Hero cannot take a turn for the rest of the round.

BASTICH BASH
After attacking, you may choose a figure adjacent to Li'l Lobo. Move the chosen figure 1 space. A figure moved by this special power may not be moved adjacent to Lobo and never takes any leaving engagement attacks. After moving the chosen figure, if there is at least one Wound Marker on this card, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 11 or higher, the chosen figure receives a wound.

SUPERSTRENGTH

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo (Breathing)

Comic:

Spoiler Alert!

Mini:

Spoiler Alert!

Background:
Anything Titans-y. Otherwise an Apokalips landscape would be cool. Both for being a space bounty hunter and where he died.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo (Breathing)

On the calculator, having Top Teen as a 3, and Bash as a 2 gets him to 170. If Bash is a 3, he's about 185. Either way the 170 guess is pretty close I believe.

The OM movement is meant to combo with Wondergirl, so nobody gets more than one. You could always take more with Lobo here, but then he loses the bonus. Also works with Robin's bonding. I think he'll be a solid pick in any Titans army just for the flexibility, though.

 

[MrNobody]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo (Breathing)

Neat little design! The healing factor was such a big part of OG Lobo. Should Jr. here have a lighter version? (Just plain Healing, for example?)

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo (Breathing)

We could if we want to. He technically has it (He's literally classic Lobo), but they never REALLY mention it as far as I recall, until he gets killed. Then his blood regenerates back into classic Lobo off panel so he can show up in other books. I kind of just padded his life to represent it.

 

[johnny139]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo (Breathing)

Personally I think one Lobo was enough, but when has DC ever listened to me?

I kind of feel like the Bash should be a must? Can't speak to the character, but I feel like if he's hurt, mad, and aggressive, shoving a teammate around is going to hurt them as much as it would an enemy.

And I agree that Healing would be doable, but it's not a must. That's a definite dial to turn if he feels off in testing, though - his card has room for it if needed.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo (Breathing)

It IS the same Lobo.

You mean the wounding on the Bash? I'm fine with that! I don't want the power itself to be a must though if that's what you meant.

 

[Tornado]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo (Breathing)

Sung to the Sheriff Lobo theme.

There is a man a legend tells,
who stands for what is right.
Like Judge Dredd he never shirks,
or cowards from a fight.
He is our Li'l Lobo,
mighty Li'l Lobo.
Skin so gray,
oh Lobo, keep us strong!
He has no fear,
he's always here,
his ego stands alone.
A man who fights,
who destroys our things as if they were his own.
He speeds the streets from early dawn,
his bike will turf your lawn.
Both big and small,
he frags them all,
who dares to fight his cause.
He is our Li'l Lobo,
mighty Li'l Lobo.
Keep us strong.
He's so strong.
Keep us strong.

 

[johnny139]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo (Breathing)

It IS the same Lobo.

You mean the wounding on the Bash? I'm fine with that! I don't want the power itself to be a must though if that's what you meant.

Right, the wounding - you can shove whoever, if you do and he's wounded, you must roll an unblockable against them.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo (Breathing)

That Bash power is going to pair nicely with Hit Anything That Moves.

Cool write up. I agree that from what you described the healing isn't needed.

Top Teen will be nice for rescuing Order Markers. A Wonder Girl (II), Miss Martian, Tim Drake Robin (II) army definitely seems like a nice fit for him.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo (Breathing)

Made this one change, both for theme, and now he has a choice to bash with an unblockable or attack normally.

After moving and before attacking, you may choose one figure adjacent to Li'l Lobo and place the chosen figure within 1 space of its original placement. The chosen figure cannot be placed adjacent to Li'l Lobo. If there are 2 or more wound markers on this card, after placing the chosen figure, you may roll one unblockable attack die against that figure. A figure moved by this special power never takes any leaving engagement attacks but will take any falling damage that may apply.

COMPETITIVE REVIEW BOARD CHECKLIST

Spoiler Alert!

Efficiency- Check to see if your design is providing armies with turns/moves/etc. to a degree that would make it difficult or impossible for an opponent to keep up with your output.

Nope.

1. Does your design allow itself or figures to move/attack/take a turn/etc. instead of/in addition to your normal turn for revealing an Order Marker? Is it granting these benefits to too broad a range of units? Does it combine with other powers to create overly long or powerful chains of actions?

Nope.

2. Does your design allow you to take actions during an opponent's turn? Can it combine with other powers to create tediously long reactions to enemy actions or a restrictive environment?

Nope.

3. Does your design allow you to rearrange your Order Markers or otherwise bypass the costs of Order Marker requirements on the special powers of other figures?

He pulls OMs to his card to take turns, so nothing too crazy or combo-worthy.

4. Is your design doing anything outside of a player's turn, at the start or end of the round? Is the effect too powerful by itself or when combined with other powers?

Nope.

5. Does your design have any powers that trigger anytime it moves as opposed to only when it moves normally on its turn? Will it be too efficient when combined with figures that grant extra moves to figures?

Nope.

6. Is your design adding or subtracting from initiative rolls? Will it pair too easily with other figures that alter initiative or have powers triggering on the results of initiative rolls?

Nope.


Potency- Check to see if your design is wounding/removing/etc. enemy figures, increasing the chances of other figures in your army doing so, or otherwise directly effecting the number of figures available to players to a degree that would make it difficult or impossible for an opponent to recover from.

1. Does your design have a chance to inflict wounds or destroy figures? Is it getting these chances too frequently or having to high a chance of success? Is the power balanced against expensive targets that can cause a massive swing in the game when destroyed?

After a few wounds, he can roll unblockables each turn. Potentially powerful.

2. Is your design adding to the stats or 20-sided die rolls of other figures in your army? Is it a boosting a broad enough range of units effectively enough to become a 'mandatory' draft or inhibit future design space? Can it be combined with other boosts too easily?

Nope.

3. Will your design benefit from stat boosts or other enhancement to an overpowering degree? Will it restrict future growth within its faction or point cost by limiting available boosts to others?

Nope.

4. Does your design take control of enemy figures permanently or temporarily? Is it too difficult to for your opponent to regain control of their figure or recover from the losing the figure? Does the method of taking control expose the enemy figure to the powers of other figures in your army that can easily destroy it?

Nope.

5. Can your design heal itself or others or revive itself or others? Is it doing so in a way that an opponent cannot hope to overcome in certain scenarios?

Nope.

6. Does your design place enemy figures on its card or otherwise have an unconventional method of temporarily removing enemy figures from play? Will it guarantee your victory against a single remaining enemy figure?

Nope.


Chicanery- Check to see if your design is preventing your opponent from taking actions with too much ease or is otherwise causing negative play experience through tactics that make your opponent feel you're 'not playing fair'

1. Does your design restrict the movement of enemy figures, or allow you to move enemy figures? Can it do so in a way that results in an unwinnable scenario for your opponent if they are down to one figure, posses only figures with a range of 1, etc.? Can your design easily combine with other figures to greatly impede enemy figures or otherwise gain an excessive advantage?

Nope.

2. Does your design effect/change the placement of an enemy's Order Markers, or remove their Order Markers entirely? Can it force Order Markers to go onto cards that have no figures on the battlefield? Can your design easily combine with other figures to completely dictate the placement of an enemy's Order Markers or remove all of their Order Markers?

Nope.

3. Does your design inhibit your opponent from attacking your figures or make attacking a losing proposition? Are there scenarios or combinations that make your opponent totally unable to harm your figures through attacking?

Nope.
4. Does your design directly negate the powers of enemy figures or otherwise ignore them in a way that can completely disrupt the opponent's strategy or leave them feeling like they are stuck playing figures without special powers?

Nope.

5. Does your design become overly powerful in a podded group of figures, or provide significant benefit to your army without leaving your Start Zone?

Nope.

6. You can attack your own figures in Heroscape, does your design have any powers that will trigger off of doing so or otherwise wounding/destroying your own figures? Is this intentional on your part? Will the design be too efficient or potent when doing so?

Nope.

CONSISTENCY CHECKLIST (SHORT FORM)

Spoiler Alert!

Consistency Concerns
Name and Identity
Verify character is named in a way that is clear, accurate and feels consistent with the way other characters are named.

Yep.

Uniqueness and Type
Verify that the power text reflects the listed uniqueness and type, that the uniqueness fits the character, and that squad size is listed for squads.

Yep.

Left Box
If the character's species, class or personality is reused, verify that the character feels thematically consistent with other figures that have that species, class or personality. If they are not reused, verify that there is no pre-existing species, class or personality that would make more sense.

Yep.

Size and Height
Verify that the listed size and height are accurate. Standing the mini up next to a stack of tiles, and a few other minis of various sizes, is encouraged.

Yep.

Super Strength and Flying
Verify that these special powers are present if they make sense, and not if they don't.

Yep.

New Powers - Names
Verify that any new powers are not using power names identical to, or very similar to, pre-existing powers. Verify that any new powers are actually new and not old powers with new names.

Yep.

New Powers - Effects
Verify that the effect and timing of all new powers is clear. Verify that any logical immunities, benefits, or weaknesses (whether those be necessary for thematic or mechanical reasons) are implemented: consider whether defensive powers that work against normal attacks should also work against special attacks, whether or not a power has an elemental component that some figures should resist, and whether or not unliving figures (such as Undead and Androids) should be affected.

Yep.

Reused Powers
Verify that the design is reusing powers in place of creating new ones, where reused powers could implement the same theme and mechanics with no differences or only trivial differences. Verify that any reused powers have the correct text.

N/A

Power Level
Verify that the character's movement, attack, range, and defense (in conjunction with any special powers that enhance those stats) feel consistent with the capabilities of characters with analogous powers and abilities. Verify that the character falls into a similar point range to characters with comparative powers and abilities.

Yep.

I propose we move to initial testing!

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Vote for Initial

Think you still want to make the rolling for a wound mandatory right?

Yea

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Vote for Initial

Yep missed that. Thanks!

 

[MrNobody]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Vote for Initial

Yea

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Vote for Initial

yea

 

[Tornado]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Vote for Initial

Yea

 

[LordVenoc]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Vote for Initial

Yea

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Waiting for Initial

After one game Lobo wasn't playing quite how I wanted him to, so running the next games with this powerset:

THE TOP TEEN
After revealing an Order Marker on any Sidekick or Titan card you control, instead of taking a turn with that Sidekick or Titan you may take a turn with L'il Lobo. If you do, that Sidekick or Titan may not move or attack for the rest of the round.

BASTICH BASH
After attacking, you may choose one figure adjacent to Li'l Lobo and move the chosen figure 1 space. The chosen figure cannot end its movement adjacent to Li'l Lobo. If there is 1 or more wound markers on this card, after moving the chosen figure, after placing the chosen figure, roll one unblockable attack die against that figure. A figure moved by this special power never takes any leaving engagement attacks.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Waiting for Initial

Looks like a fine update

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Waiting for Initial

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Li’l Lobo

VERSION TESTED:

Spoiler Alert!

THE TOP TEEN
Before revealing the next numbered Order Marker on the card of a Sidekick or Titan you control, you may move that Order Marker to this card. If you do, that Sidekick or Titan may not move or attack for the rest of the round.

BASTICH BASH
After moving and before attacking, you may choose one figure adjacent to Li'l Lobo and place the chosen figure within 1 space of its original placement. The chosen figure cannot be placed adjacent to Li'l Lobo. If there are 2 or more wound markers on this card, after placing the chosen figure, roll one unblockable attack die against that figure. A figure moved by this special power never takes any leaving engagement attacks but will take any falling damage that may apply.

Army Test
Summary: Young Justice started strong, but faltered pretty quickly. They couldn’t roll well this game, and once Wonder Girl was down it was over. Even a fully enraged Arrowette couldn’t land a wound. Lobo’s impact was minimal. It was hard to use Bash and give up his attack in many cases, and Top Teen wasn’t as useful as it sounded, since I wanted to place OMs on his card to begin with. Might make some changes here.
Map: Custom
Units: Lobo, Wonder Girl, Robin (Tim), Secret, Aqualad (Kaldur), Arrowette, Robin (Dick) (1000)

Vs.

X-Men

Spoiler Alert!

Recap: Secret picks Tim as her Obsession. Aqualad takes every OM but the X, and he and Robin quickly gain the team ground. Robin and Aqualad deal 2 wounds to Jean. Tim deals 2 wounds to Prof X and Wonder Girl wrecks Jean. Lobo steals an OM to Bash Beast around Wonder Girl and Aqualad, and she deals him a wound, but Aqualad misses. Beast jumps to height above Aqualad and Wonder Girl, taking 2 wounds from Hit Anything, but deals Aqualad 3 wounds. Iceman kills Aqualad, then Arrowette takes his OM, but misses Iceman. Beast attacks Wonder Girl but takes a wound from Counterstrike. Iceman wounds Wonder Girl, and Beast Negotiates an OM off her card (She only had one so her Hit Anything bonus is gone), and attacks Lobo but misses. Cyclops deals 2 wounds to Robin and kills Arrowette! Secret is summoned next to Cyclops, but she misses. Cyclops kills both Robin and Secret, and Beast kills Wonder Girl and wounds Lobo. Lobo steals Dick’s OM and grabs height, but only rolls one skull on Beast. The X-Men quickly clean house.

Top Teen: Used to take one of Dick’s OMs since he sees a perfect Bash opportunity to activate Hit Anything (Which succeeds!)

Bash: Used twice. Once to activate Hit Anything, and once at the end to try to finish Beast (He missed)




Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Prof X with 2 wounds, Beast with 4 wounds, Iceman with 1 wound, Angel and Cyclops unwounded.

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VERSION TESTED:

Spoiler Alert!

THE TOP TEEN
After revealing an Order Marker on any Sidekick or Titan card you control, instead of taking a turn with that Sidekick or Titan you may take a turn with L'il Lobo. If you do, that Sidekick or Titan may not move or attack for the rest of the round.

BASTICH BASH
After attacking, you may choose one figure adjacent to Li'l Lobo and move the chosen figure 1 space. The chosen figure cannot end its movement adjacent to Li'l Lobo. If there is 1 or more wound markers on this card, after moving the chosen figure, after placing the chosen figure, roll one unblockable attack die against that figure. A figure moved by this special power never takes any leaving engagement attacks.

Army Test
Summary: The plan to abuse Donna and Miss Martian’s throws was completely thwarted. Cyclops was on a rampage, and YJ could never keep up.
Map: Custom
Units: Lobo (190), Wonder Girl (YJ), Robin (YJ), Secret, Miss Martian, Wonder Girl (Donna)

Vs

X-Men

Spoiler Alert!

Recap: Round 1 Cyclops sniped Donna before she got close. Cyclops blasts Lobo for 3 wounds and Wonder Girl for 2. Robin hits Prof X for 2 wounds, and Miss Martian engages Cyclops but fails to do anything else. Jean throws herself forward, to try to hit Wonder Girl, but misses. Lobo steals Wonder Girl’s turn, misses his attack on Jean but Bashes her for a wound. Jean grabs throws and kills Wonder Girl! Robin lowers Jean’s defense and Lobo kills her. Cyclops kills Miss Martian. Cyclops keeps blasting everyone, hitting Robin for 2 wounds and summoning Secret, who deals a wound to him. Lobo hits Cyclops for 2 wounds, and pushes him off height. Beast and Cyclops just destroy the rest of the team.

Damage Dealt: 1 wound to Jean (Bash), 3 more wounds to kill Jean. 2 wounds to Cyclops.

Top Teen: Stole 1 turn

Bash: 1 wound to Jean. Pushed Cyclops.




Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Prof X with 2 wounds, Cyclops with 3 wounds, Beast, Iceman, and Angel with 0 wounds.

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Army Test
Summary: Well apparently Young Justice is a good counter to the Titans, haha. Superboy died WAY too fast, but after that they could not keep up. Donna was the MVP here, dealing ludicrous amounts of damage, and her, Robin’s and Secret’s Defense subtraction paired with Hit Anything not wanting them to move was just brutal.
Map: Custom
Units: Lobo, Wonder Girl (YJ), Robin (YJ), Secret, Arrowette, Wonder Girl (Donna), Kid Flash (1000)

Vs

Nightwing, Starfire, Superboy, Raven, Red Robin (Smoke Pellets) (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Recap: Robin rushes forward, shooting at Starfire but Superboy blocks it. Lobo and Kid Flash run forward. Superboy hits Robin for 2, summoning Secret. Donna pulls Superboy from height, dealing 2 wounds from “Hit Anything,” then kills him with her normal attack! Red Robin flies up to attack Robin, but misses (Taking a wound from Hit Anything). Starfire rushes forward to kill Secret with her bonus from Red Robin’s wound, but only deals 2 to her. Nightwing hits Robin for a wound, summoning Secret to hit him for a wound! Robin uses Deduction on Nightwing, then hits Red Robin for a wound (his defense is down from Secret). Kid Flash rushes forward to attack Nightwing who has defense down from both Secret and Robin’s Deduction! He whiffs with his single die and Kid Flash kills him! Raven takes Red Robin’s wounds, and misses Secret. Robin hits Starfire for a wound, and Donna pulls her down by herself and Lobo, dealing a wound with Hit Anything, and then two more wounds with her normal attack! Starfire doesn’t risk moving with only 1 life left, and deals 4 wounds to Lobo. Robin kills Starfire, and Kid Flash kills Red Robin in one hit, since he’s still next to Secret! Donne pulls Raven next to like 4 of them, and then Raven projects a wound to Robin, killing him. Arrowette takes an OM and blasts her with a huge attack for a wound. Raven kills Secret. Lobo ends by attacking Raven for a wound, then Bashing her for a wound, and triggering Hit Anything for another wound!



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Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Wonder Girl with 0 wounds, Lobo with 4 wounds, Donna, Arrowette, and Kid Flash with 0 wounds.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I think he’s pretty solid with the changes. Definitely a useful pick with a Young Justice team now, and also fun when also paired with Donna Wonder Girl.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT:
Much more fun after changes! I very much enjoy playing the whole Young Justice team now, it’s really coming together. Donna might be a staple in the team though, her lasso is crazy, and all their defense subtractions is brutal against people like Nightwing and Superboy.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Waiting for Initial

Really enjoying these YJ armies. Finally ran the fated Young Justice vs Titans game. Quite the slaughter in YJ's favor, but Superboy got seriously shafted and then Secret got next to Nightwing, and Robin used Deduction so he could only roll a single defense die. With those two down it was pretty much already over! I'm happy so far at 190.

I propose public testing at 190

 

[Tornado]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Vote for Public Testing

Yea

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Vote for Public Testing

yea

Wonder Girl Donna is a great unit, her lasso is brutal. The tough part with her is having an OM on her when it's most needed, plus her low survivability.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Li'l Lobo ~ Vote for Public Testing

Always have loved Donna yeah. Arrowette is fun with any low life Titans though