The Book of Lightspeed

[tcglkn]

The Book of Lightspeed​

C3G MARVEL WAVE 14
FANTASTIC ADVENTURES​

Comic PDF​

Mini PDF​

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Secret Invasion set. ​

Its model number and name is #013 / Lightspeed.​

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Character Bio - Julie Power was born to Dr. James Power and Margaret Power. She was a founding member of the superhero team Power Pack. The second oldest of the four Power siblings, she was 10 years old when she was given her powers by Aelfyre Whitemane, a dying Kymellian noble. Julie has the power of unaided flight by means of rapid forward propulsion that leaves a highly-visible rainbow-colored band of light in her wake. Julie never flew at the speed of light as her codename suggested and her top speed remains unknown, but it was supposed by her brother Alex on one occasion that she had broken the sound barrier, though they were not travelling faster than the speed of the sound waves from their own mouths as they were conversing at the time - nor was Julie traveling so fast that she caused the creation of a sonic boom. (Wikipedia)
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-Rulings and Clarifications-

• N/A

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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:

• As a Small Enthusiastic Hero, Lightspeed has these
  • Small Synergies and
  • Small Enthusiastic Synergies.
• As a Mutate, Lightspeed has these Mutate Synergies.
• As an Adventurer, Lightspeed has these Adventurer Synergies.

Outgoing Synergy:

• Lightspeed may carry a tiny or small figure when she moves due to her Small Carry special power. Current Tiny and Small figures.
• Lightspeed may remove a Wound Marker if she ends her turn adjacent to a Small Enthusiastic Hero due to her Kymellian Healing Factor special power. Current Small Enthusiastic Heroes.

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-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-

Immunities

• As a figure with the Flying special power, Lightspeed cannot be affected by aspects of certain special powers. Special Powers that Interact Differently with Flying.

Benefits

• N/A

Weaknesses

• As a figure with the Flying special power, Lightspeed interacts differently with certain special powers. Special Powers that Interact Differently with Flying.
• As an Adventurer, an opponent's Impossible Man may add 8 to his roll for Shapeshifting Prankster if he chooses Lightspeed.

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

• N/A

-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

• Initial playtest: tcglkn
• Second playtest: marv_art
• Third playtest: Margloth
• Art by: tcglkn

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

NAME = LIGHTSPEED

SECRET IDENTITY = JULIE POWER

SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ADVENTURER
PERSONALITY = ENTHUSIASTIC

SIZE/HEIGHT = SMALL 3

LIFE = 3

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = 40

SMALL CARRY
While Lightspeed is flying, you may choose one friendly unengaged tiny or small figure that she passes over this turn. Place the chosen figure on an empty space adjacent to Lightspeed at the end of her move.

KYMELLIAN HEALING FACTOR
After taking a turn with Lightspeed, if she is adjacent to at least one other small Enthusiastic Hero you control, you may remove one Wound Marker from this Army Card.

FLYING

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Well I have till Monday at the earliest unless one of you guys wanna knock it out. One thing I did just notice (and would have to change on Mass Master) is do we want to call it KYMELLIAN HEALING FACTOR or just KYMELLIAN HEALING?

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

I don't think the "Factor" is necessary, but it is already on there, so lets keep it.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

What's the theme behind making Small Carry basically a small stealth carry?

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

What's the theme behind making Small Carry basically a small stealth carry?

Um, I copied the text from Angel and forgot to change it. I'll make it "an unengaged friendly Small figure" and drop the leaving engagement line.

 

[Good Pig]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Cool. This chick is a nice support unit for future small figures too.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Cool. Good stuff.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Updated the OP. I am about to send out some ERB (to the same people who same Mass Master FWIW)

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Lightspeed

Everything looks good.

Only question I can think of relates to placement abilities: If Jean Grey Telekinesis Lightspeed, could she pass Lightspeed over a Small Enthusiastic Hero to trigger the Small Carry?

Go, Power Pack!

No because placing a figure is like teleporting, you don't actually pass over the spaces.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Whereas if she were Mind Exchanged or something, she could totally use her carry power.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Of course. I'm hoping to get on this initial playtest tomorrow. Today I'm going to the mall with my sister and cousin to hopefully pick up my graduation present. Neither Best Buy or Wal-Mart have any iPad 2s in stock.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Fun stuff. I have to admit that I don't really know the Power Pack, but these look like fun units.

Since you guys were the ones I sent Mass Master to, I will probably go ahead and send you all 4 members of the Power Pack as they reach ERB.

NAME = LIGHTSPEED

SECRET IDENTITY = JULIE POWER


SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ADVENTURER (nice to have some FF synergy)
PERSONALITY = ENTHUSIASTIC

SIZE/HEIGHT = SMALL 3 (love small units ...)

LIFE = 3

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = 40 [Might be a bit low, but these are hard to gauge. There is the question of relative power versus actual in game value. My gut says that this seems low, but it's certainly the right general area.]

SMALL CARRY
If Lightspeed passes over a friendly unengaged Small figure, after moving Lightspeed you may place that figure on any empty space adjacent to Lightspeed. Lightspeed may not move more than one figure when using Small Carry.

[Really like this power--wish other Carry powers could do this as well--however, the wording is still not quite right for me. I could read the last line to simply mean "one at a time"--each move is just "one figure," so why not be able to move each figure I passed over? What about something like:

Lightspeed may only choose one figure per turn to move using Small Carry.

I'm no master of Scape terminology, but I think that has the effect you want.]

KYMELLIAN HEALING FACTOR
After taking a turn with Lightspeed, if she is adjacent to at least one other Small Enthusiastic Hero you control, remove one Wound Marker from this Army Card.

[I assume this just means that you are "locking" in "Small Enthusiastic Hero" to only units that should thematically synergize with Lightspeed. Works for me, as long as people keep it in mind.]

FLYING

Fun stuff in here. Hope my comments are helpful. All best, V

Thanks for your feedback. The wording for Small Carry is taken directly from Angel's card so I think the wording is clear enough.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Lightspeed

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass, she helps a few slower small units get into the battle quickly and is totally worth 40 points to boost Mxyzptlk's speed.

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass

All Tests Run On: Hydra Base Gehenna


Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? 40 points seems fine.
- Give a brief summary. She can't do much damage here and she will do worse in armies where someone like Superman can take her out in one attack.

Spoiler Alert!

TEST 1
Units: Lightspeed VS Bob, Agent of HYDRA (25)
Bob w/ 1 wound.
Lightspeed w/ 2 wounds.

TEST 2
Units:Lightspeed VS Ant-Man (30)
Lightspeed w/ 1 wound.
Lightspeed w/ no wounds.

TEST 3
Units: Lightspeed VS Wasp (50)
Wasp w/ no wounds.
Lightspeed w/ no wounds.

TEST 4
Units: Lightspeed VS Alfred (60)
Lightspeed w/ no wounds.
Alfred w/ no wounds.

TEST 5
Units: Lightspeed VS Shadow Thief (70)
Shadow Thief w/ 2 wounds.
Lightspeed w/ 1 wound.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? 40-50 points
- Give a brief summary. Sniper one shotted Lightspeed, not much of a test.
Units: Lightspeed VS SHIELD Sniper x1 (40)

Spoiler Alert!

The Sniper won
The SHIELD Sniper got the first attack on OM2 and took Lightspeed out.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? 40-50 points
- Give a brief summary. .
Units: Lightpseed VS Civilians x1 (45)

Spoiler Alert!

Lightspeed with no wounds
She was able to pick them off one by one here with height most of the time.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? 40 points feels high right now.
- Give a brief summary. Lightspeed gave Mass Master a nice boost but wasn't any help after he got one shotted by Super Skrull.
Units: Lightspeed, Mister Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Mass Master, Wasp, Ant-Man, and Fire Ants x2 (670) VS Super Skrull and Skrull Warriors x3 (670)

Spoiler Alert!

Mass Master was the first to fall after a 5 skull attack from Super Skrull after attempting to use Jack Hammer on him. Lightspeed didn't do much but carry Mass Master a couple of times at the start to get him into the action. After that she tied down Super Skull for about a round while Mr. F, IW and Wasp did thier thing. Wasp took out 2 Skull Warriors before falling and Lightspeed fell in one good attack from Super Skrull. After Lightspeed fell Mr. F and IW finished off Super Skrull and the remaining Skrull Warriors taking minimal damage. Ant-Man and his Fire Ants never took a turn.
Mister Fantastic w/ 2 wounds, Invisible Woman w/ 3 wounds, Ant-Man and 2 Fire Ants win.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? 40 points works well
- Give a brief summary. She is good for a quick carry but not much else, certainly feels thematic.
Units: Lightspeed, Mass Master, Molly Hayes, Mister Mxyzptlk, Ant-Man and Spider-Man (Official) (730) VS Quicksilver, Toad, Wolverine, and Nightcrawler. (730)[/B]

Spoiler Alert!

Mxy choose Nightcrawler as his target to Antagonize. Lightspeed really helped Ant-Man get into the action fast in this battle and he was the first casualty to Wolverine. Lightspeed then fell back to try to work with Mass Master on their healing. Molly Hayes went out to try and take down Wolverine and barely finished him off for the other kids with only one life left. Toad and Quicksilver go out for a little team work action (Toad pulling people adjacent to Quicksilver where he can use his Special Attack to maximum potential. Mass Master takes out Toad before this plan works out and Lightspeed helped him heal the one wound Toad gave him. Next turn Quicksilver lands a good hit on Mass Master and takes him out. I then put a couple on OMs on Lightspeed to bring Mxy out into the battle quickly. After removing some OMs from Quicksilver he finishes him off leaving just Nightcrawler who has been scared to take a turn. Nightcrawler finishes off Molly and Lightspeed before he goes down to Mxy.
Mxy w/ 1 wound and Spider-Man w/ no wounds win the game.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

I dunno - I'd say over 40 from those heavy hitter tests. She took down Ant-Man, Wasp, and Shadow Thief, losing only to Alfred, and this is without her healing synergy in play. I'd put her at 50 thus far.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Well I just finished (but haven't posted) her squad tests and I don't like how her attack is often 4. She is really a weakling, but her flight lets her get height easily so I'd like to drop her normal attack to 2 and keep her down to about 40 points. Is everyone OK with that?

 

[A3n]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Alright OP updated. I will run the Army tests with Attack of 2 at 40 points.

 

[Good Pig]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Good change

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Works for me.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

First army test in. She really doesn't feel like she's worth 40 points right now. The only tweak I can think of to boost her cost without breaking theme is allowing her to carry Tiny figures. I'd like to see her at 40 points if possible and I think that would make it so.

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

I am good with that. I mean that is really only Atom and Ant-Man to add to Power Pack, right? The Wasp can fly on her own.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

Yea, it would let her carry them, and poor Ant-Man could use the movement help too.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

I'm fine with that. It makes sense that if she can carry small, she should be able to carry medium. Carrying Wasp would also let her take advantage of Wasp's distraction power.
Being able to Carry Atom is actually kind of redundant ...

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Lightspeed - Design

I'm fine with that. It makes sense that if she can carry small, she should be able to carry tiny. Carrying Wasp would also let her take advantage of Wasp's distraction power.
Being able to Carry Atom is actually kind of redundant ...

Fixed. I agree, plus it would give Wasp a nice speed boost in one OM with Mister Fantastic. It does require a 12 or higher but I used the combo with Mass Master once and it worked out well. I will update the OP before the last test.