The Book of Jewel

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Very true.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Yeah, good call. And, anyway, in order for the fluctuations to feel like fluctuations, you really need a "state of rest" in between.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

So, Spidey, are you still up for doing an initial playtest on this gal?

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Yes, got my map reset and heavy hitters picked out last night. I will post today who I am planning to run her against.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Sweet! I look forward to it. I also have tons and tons of time on my hands right now, so I'd love to get my hands on some Red Skull testing!

 

[Hahma]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Yes, got my map reset and heavy hitters picked out last night. I will post today who I am planning to run her against.

How's this looking Spidey?

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Got Heavy Hitter and Squad tests done but won't be able to post until tomorrow. I have anothe busy day at wok today. Then my sister's fiance is having an open house I need to attend. I will get those up tomorrow. I hope to will finish the army tests tomorrow night (Sunday).

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Cool! Looking forward to it. Any previews as to how she's looking thus far?

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Well, Blob was a tough customer for her, but he usually is for anyone. I am still iffy on some of my input, so I will hold off on anymore for now.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

OK. Just keep us posted.

 

[Hahma]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Cool Spidey

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Good for you Spidey. Have fun, and it is OK to test in small portions as your life will allow.

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

OK, my busy schedule finally got to me, so I was unable to gather together all my playtest results. I will post who she fought though by posting an incomplete Playtest Sheet.

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

C3G PLAY TEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Jewel
- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass.

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass.

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass.

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass.

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass.

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Very fun, one of the simpler units to play. This has actually made me think perhaps we should rate the units by complexity. Make a Thread that rates them so people know which designs are really complicated and which designs aren't.

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass. Yes she was fun. Although my 20-sided luck seemed to work against her rather than for her.

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass. Yes because we have units near this amount but only one other (C3G) Unique Hero at that cost.

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass. Psychic Vulnerability is a nice small dash of flavor where her other powers are used every turn.

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Yes, she is interesting because she can be a Heavy or she can be a light weight.

- Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero/ Does it pass, Yes or No? What should be the unit's point value? Give a brief summary. Yes, very fun to play. Actually I enjoyed playing her more in HH tests than army tests. 160 seems good.

Spoiler Alert!

TEST 1
Map: Martian Warzone: The Heat
Units: Blob (165)
Blob owned her. It ended on turn three of round three and Blob only had 3 of 6 wounds. Even though she rolled well and had height she could not overcome Blob's Blubber Defense. She only got a Boost from Power Fluctuations when she was too far away to attack. She rolled 7 times failing twice and boosting thrice.

TEST 2
Map: Martian Warzone: The Heat
Units:Spider-Man (160)
Jewel won. It ended on turn two of round three with Jewel having height and four wounds. Neither rolled very well this game. Spider-man SS'ed his way out of three attacks. Jewel rolled 7 times boosting twice and failing once. She won with a boosted attack.

TEST 3
Map: Martian Warzone: The Heat
Units: Count Vertigo (160)
Interesting battle actually. Jewel won. Vertigo was able to take and maintain height, but that only prolonged his agony. This one ended on turn 5 of round two. Jewel rolled 6 times failing once and boosting once. What was interesting is that she lost flying before getting close enough t attack, so the lower roll became a moot point.

TEST 4
Map: Martian Warzone: The Heat
Units: Mystique (165)
Mystique won a close one. Jewel took 4 of 5 wounds from Engagement Strike. Mystique only missed this roll once. Even though her range was greater than Jewel's move, she couldn't take advantage because she couldn't roll skulls unless it was one at a time. This one ended on turn 4 of round three and Mystique had 4 wounds. She killed Jewel with ES 13 when Jewel moved to attack.. Jewel rolled 8 times for Power Fluctuation, failing twice and boosting twice.

TEST 5
Map: Martian Warzone: The Heat
Units: Venom (150)
Jewel won. Both these two rolled amazing here. This one ended on turn 2 of round 2. Each made two attacks and each hit both times. Jewel had 3 wounds when she won. She rolled 4 times for Power Fluctuation, boosting once.

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- Squad / Does it pass, Yes or No? What should be the unit's point value? Give a brief summary. Yes, 160 seems Ok. Once the Hydra agents surrounded her, it was over.
Map: Martian Warzone: The Heat
Units: Hydra Agents (80) x 2

Spoiler Alert!

Agents Won with 4 agents left. She had Initiative most of the game, and this one still ended on turn 4 of round 3. Once Agents swarmed and got height, it was just a matter of time. Hydra's superior range didn't hurt either. Not to mention they got no use out of Ruthless Mastermind Bonding nor do they have a Telepath. She rolled 8 times, failing twice and boosting thrice.

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- Army Test/ Does it pass, Yes or No? What should be the unit's point value? Give a brief summary. Yes, 160 seemed fine though her team costed less and they won. Perhaps a bump to 170, though she only played clean-up.
Map: Martian Warzone: The Heat
Units: Captain America, Ironman, and Jewel (620) vs. Jean Grey, Cyclops, Angel, and Mystique (625)

Spoiler Alert!

Jewel was the last one standing with 2 wounds. She rolled ten times for Power Fluctuation, failing 3 times and boosting 2 times. She was also attacked twice by Jean activating Psychic Vulnerability. Once she had height, so it evened out and she avoided any wounds, the other time she took a wound when she might have avoided it rolling more dice.

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- Army Test/ Does it pass, Yes or No? What should be the unit's point value? Give a brief summary. Yes, in a map covered with Heavier Hitters, she was worth her points only because she was essentially fodder to cover for her two teammates. I think 160 is perfect because she was not even close to the value of what she had been in previous tests and coincedentally, she also never successfully rolled to boost via Power Fluctuation.
Map: Martian Warzone: The Heat
Units: Thor, Hulk, Jewel, and Civilians x1 (1005) vs. Gorilla Grodd, Martian Manhunter, Flash, and Hawkgirl (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Thor with 6/8 and Hulk with 4/8 survive. Jewel defeated and Civilians destroyed. Grodd was annihilated by a single attack from Thor. Jewel had only two turns before she was destroyed by Hawkgirl. She rolled twice for Power Fluctuation, rolling a 14 and a 4. She put no wounds in one attack. Hawkgirl was her team's MVP, putting 3 wounds on Hulk, 6 on Thor and 4 on Jewel. Flash destroyed Jewel and all the civilians using Fist Fusilade on three turns. Martian Manhunter was also destroyed by Hulk in two turns.

Overall she is a really, simple yet very fun design. I really liked how she came in low costed but could easily be worth more than her points with some 20-sided luck. I think she will be a fun add to any Avengers builds.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Looking forward to the details, but 160 doesn't look too bad so far. Any issues arise with her design?

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Not yet, but I am witholding judgement until she goes up against a Telepath.

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Playtest is updated.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Looking good! I'd say we might want to try her at 170 in the public playtesting based on these results so far.
Make sure to answer all the questions in the first part of the test sheet.

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Looking good! I'd say we might want to try her at 170 in the public playtesting based on these results so far.
Make sure to answer all the questions in the first part of the test sheet.

Oh, I definately will, I was just waiting until I am done to answer them. You know, in case my opinion changes.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Cool. Good stuff. Also, in your voice message, you asked if there were any specific army combos you should try with her. Really she's pretty bland on the synergy front, so I think really just add her to any army that she seems like she'd be fun in. You already tested her psychic vulnerability in one army test, so I don't think it's really necessary to worry about in the second unless you want to.

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Spidey, you rock.

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Playtest is finished and updated. After the first Army test I thought maybe her cost should be raised, but she was pretty much manhandled in the second one. BTW, Hulk and Thor is a SIC team!

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Jewel - VOTE for ERB

Yeah, Hulk and Thor is pretty sick, though I look forward to seeing if new Hulk and Thor are any sicker!
Thanks for running the tests, Spidey. I think we've had plenty of time to look over all but the last test and everything looks in order to me, so I'm going to go ahead and propose we move Jewel to ERB.

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

Yea.

 

[SirGalahad]

Re: The Book of Jewel - Design Phase

yea to ERB