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The Book of Hawkeye (Clint Barton) (Skycycle)

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The Book of Hawkeye (Clint Barton) (Skycycle)

C3G MARVEL WAVE 19
PATRIOT GAMES

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Fantastic Forces set.
Its model number and name are #010-012 / Hawkeye.
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Character Bio - Clint Barton was orphaned early in life. He and his brother Barney ran away from the orphanage to join the circus, where Clint was taught marksmanship by the renowned Swordsman and Trickshot. After being let down by Swordsman's criminal activities and abandoned by both Swordsman and his brother Barney, Clint carried on his training with Trickshot. Eventually Clint took on the persona “Hawkeye” and travelled the country in various circuses. He got caught up with the Russian agent called Black Widow and was seduced by her to help defeat Iron Man, but he later wizened up and petitioned to join the Avengers, and was in fact sponsored by Iron Man.

Hawkeye spent many years as an Avenger before going solo for awhile, where under less than ideal circumstances he met ex-S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent Bobbi Morse, also known as Mockingbird. They fell in love and got married. Later Hawkeye was asked by Vision to head up a west coast branch of the Avengers, called The West Coast Avengers. Hawkeye recruited his wife Mockingbird, Wonder Man, Iron Man, Tigra and Hank Pym.
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  • Base Clarification: Hawkeye is a single based figure.
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Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

NAME = HAWKEYE
SECRET IDENTITY = CLINT BARTON

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ARCHER
PERSONALITY = COCKY

SIZE/HEIGHT = LARGE 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 9
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 160


SKYCYCLE CARRY
Before moving, you may choose a tiny, small or medium Common or Unique Hero you control adjacent to Hawkeye. The chosen figure becomes the Skycycle Passenger. After moving, place the Skycycle Passenger adjacent to Hawkeye. The Skycycle Passenger will take any leaving engagement attacks.

HAWKEYE'S ORDERS
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, moving normally with Hawkeye and placing the Skycycle Passenger, instead of attacking with Hawkeye, you may take a turn with the Skycycle Passenger.

SKY SHOT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5. Attack 3.
Figures roll 2 fewer defense dice when defending against this special attack. After Hawkeye attacks with this special attack, he may use Skycycle Carry and move up to 3 spaces. When Hawkeye moves with this special attack, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

FLYING
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

Nice, simple and thematic design. :) I like it! Great reuse of the Quick Shot SA from Deathstroke. Seems very fitting for this design.

One thing to think about is that attack bonding with Hawkeye's Orders might get a little weird when a squad figure is the Skycycle Passenger.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

Hmm, also it makes it weird with any squads/heroes with after moving/before attacking powers, while attacking powers, or after attacking powers in terms of what triggers and what doesn't. Could be an FAQ nightmare ... so I'm a bit concerned about that power as well. Not sure what the answer is straight off.

Meanwhile, this guy would be a pretty good combination with Speedy (Roy)!
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

Like the others said, squad figures as passengers will make the powers crazy, so maybe just something like "...choose a friendly small or medium hero figure...". Other then that nice design. :up:
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

Yeah, for sure it should only work with heroe's, no squaddies. I'll change that after the waiting period.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

Cool design Hahma. I really like it with the Hero only restriction added. :up: Nothing to add at this point.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

Yeah, for sure it should only work with heroe's, no squaddies. I'll change that after the waiting period.

I still worry about some of the other interactions though with the before/during/after attacking special powers ... (see previous post). This feels like a Colossus/Fast Ball Special issue.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

Yeah, for sure it should only work with heroe's, no squaddies. I'll change that after the waiting period.

I still worry about some of the other interactions though with the before/during/after attacking special powers ... (see previous post). This feels like a Colossus/Fast Ball Special issue.

HAWKEYE'S ORDERS
After moving normally with Hawkeye and placing the Skycycle Passenger, instead of attacking with Hawkeye, you may attack with the Skycycle Passenger.
Maybe this change can eliminate that concern.

HAWKEYE'S ORDERS
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, instead of taking a turn with Hawkeye, you may take a turn with any figure you control that is adjacent to Hawkeye.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

Well if there isn't a good fix for attack bonding, I wouldn't mind seeing squad figures being included in the carry.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

Yeah, for sure it should only work with heroe's, no squaddies. I'll change that after the waiting period.

I still worry about some of the other interactions though with the before/during/after attacking special powers ... (see previous post). This feels like a Colossus/Fast Ball Special issue.

HAWKEYE'S ORDERS
After moving normally with Hawkeye and placing the Skycycle Passenger, instead of attacking with Hawkeye, you may attack with the Skycycle Passenger.
Maybe this change can eliminate that concern.

HAWKEYE'S ORDERS
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, instead of taking a turn with Hawkeye, you may take a turn with any figure you control that is adjacent to Hawkeye.

That would do it. :) Though it should probably be restricted to Unique Heroes still. And he should be able to carry any figure.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

I honestly wasn't all that interested in a second version of this guy, but this design is really brilliant. Thanks.

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I agree that Heroes only should be involved with the "bond"

QUICK SHOT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5. Attack 3.

Figures roll 2 fewer defense dice when defending against Hawkeye's Quick Shot Special Attack. After Hawkeye attacks with Quick Shot Special Attack, he may move up to 3 spaces. If Hawkeye is engaged when he begins this move When Hawkeye moves with this special attack, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

Yeah, for sure it should only work with heroe's, no squaddies. I'll change that after the waiting period.

I still worry about some of the other interactions though with the before/during/after attacking special powers ... (see previous post). This feels like a Colossus/Fast Ball Special issue.

Personally I think it's just too cool to not have the SkyCycle Passenger able to attack instead of Hawkeye. You're just replacing his attack phase with the other figure's.

We could limit the additional turn interruption actions with something similar to what we have about not taking any other turns with other Sidekicks.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

How about this?

HAWKEYE'S ORDERS
After moving normally with Hawkeye and placing the Skycycle Passenger, instead of attacking with Hawkeye, you may take a turn with the Skycycle Passenger.

?

Would that be too much? It'd make clear what powers the figure could use or not. We could also always limit it like so:

HAWKEYE'S ORDERS
After moving normally with Hawkeye and placing the Skycycle Passenger, instead of attacking with Hawkeye, you may take a turn with the Skycycle Passenger. During this turn, the Skycycle Passenger may not move.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

I honestly wasn't all that interested in a second version of this guy, but this design is really brilliant. Thanks.

_______

I agree that Heroes only should be involved with the "bond"

QUICK SHOT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5. Attack 3.

Figures roll 2 fewer defense dice when defending against Hawkeye's Quick Shot Special Attack. After Hawkeye attacks with Quick Shot Special Attack, he may move up to 3 spaces. If Hawkeye is engaged when he begins this move When Hawkeye moves with this special attack, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

Wow! Thanks Griff :D I'm glad you like it. I really like the character and wanted this version done too, but wanted to do something different enough from the other one, and different enough from other "carrying" type designs. Hopefully it's fun. :D

I can't take credit though for Quick Shot Special Attack as that was on Deathstroke's card and is the reason I worded it the way it was since I was re-using the power. I did choose this power however because it made total sense to me for him to make a quick pass with the Skycycle and feel kind of like a specialty arrow because of reducing defense. Also, the thing I liked best that by allowing him to move 3 spaces after the attack, he could pick up a Passenger to move with him. :D


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Yeah, for sure it should only work with heroe's, no squaddies. I'll change that after the waiting period.

I still worry about some of the other interactions though with the before/during/after attacking special powers ... (see previous post). This feels like a Colossus/Fast Ball Special issue.

Personally I think it's just too cool to not have the SkyCycle Passenger able to attack instead of Hawkeye. You're just replacing his attack phase with the other figure's.

We could limit the additional turn interruption actions with something similar to what we have about not taking any other turns with other Sidekicks.

Thanks Sir G :D

How about this?

HAWKEYE'S ORDERS
After moving normally with Hawkeye and placing the Skycycle Passenger, instead of attacking with Hawkeye, you may take a turn with the Skycycle Passenger.

?

Would that be too much? It'd make clear what powers the figure could use or not. We could also always limit it like so:

HAWKEYE'S ORDERS
After moving normally with Hawkeye and placing the Skycycle Passenger, instead of attacking with Hawkeye, you may take a turn with the Skycycle Passenger. During this turn, the Skycycle Passenger may not move.

Thanks for the write-ups for this Bats :D Hmm...we'll have to see though as both have merits. The first one would be kind of like having Prof X using Angel to Carry someone and then have the carried figure take a turn, though Angel still has the ability to attack if he's engaged. So Hawkeye gives up his attack, which is better than Angel's, to give the Passenger a complete turn. It is clear for sure. Also, since the Passenger wouldn't be revealing an OM for that turn, it would eliminate powers that require revealing an OM.

The second version certainly has more limitations to tone it down some, but it sounds kind of wonky I guess.

Maybe see what others prefer.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

On the wording for the SA, even though we did the wording that way for Deathstroke, I think we should still continue to adjust our text to match our aesthetics. Since we haven't used that language in such a long time, it would be very odd to go back to it now, even though there is a precedent.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

That's cool for sure, as I'm always up for improving wording when we can. :D
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

I updated the SP with Bat's and Griffin's suggested changes, as well as making the Skycycle Passenger required to be a Unique Hero.

I opted for Bat's first suggestion with the Passenger being able to take a turn as it seemed cleaner and since Hawkeye had been the Chairman for the West Coast Avengers, led the Thunderbolts for awhile and had some leadership experience with the Avengers. So him being able to do this is thematic in that regard and unlike some other bonding units, he has to give up his attack, so it's not like a full double activation.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

Works for me! :) This might be a good guy to help sneak Wasp into the action.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

Oooh, speaking of, can we make the carry work with Tiny figures too?
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

I meant to bring up that point as well. It seems obvious really, that Tiny figures should be allowed to be carried.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

For sure. Even more so with a guy with this type of Avengers connection and two tiny Avengers.
 
Re: The Book of Hawkeye - Design Phase

I meant to bring up that point as well. It seems obvious really, that Tiny figures should be allowed to be carried.

For sure. Even more so with a guy with this type of Avengers connection and two tiny Avengers.


SKYCYCLE CARRY
Before moving, you may choose a friendly tiny, small or medium Unique Hero figure that does not have the Flying or Stealth Flying special power and is adjacent to Hawkeye. The chosen figure becomes the Skycycle Passenger. After moving, place the Skycycle Passenger adjacent to Hawkeye. The Skycycle Passenger will take leaving engagement attacks.

I added Tiny, however I had part of the requirement for the Passenger to not have Flying or Stealth Flying to tone it down some and model after John Stewart. I'm fine either way in either keeping it that way and not being able to carry Wasp or drop that requirement and be able to carry her or any shrunken heroes that fly.
 
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