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The Book of Golden Glider

Re: The Book of Golden Glider (breathing)

@Soundwarp SG-1

I forget, was there some mechanical reason we didn't like the
Figures can not roll more than 1 defense die against this special attack.
mechanic? I remember that coming up during criticism of Judge Death, but I cannot recall if it was purely from a "he would be fine just taking all the dice away" perspective, or if there were also an element of "this mechanic should not exist" thrown in there.

Sorry for the delay, I don't seem to be getting pings for notifications lately.

I don't think there's a big mechanical issue with that style wording. That's more with wording that's like 'subtract 2 from their defense, to a minimum of one' kinda stuff?

Pretty sure the Judge Death stuff was just of the "he would be fine just taking all the dice away" variety.
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (breathing)

With Death people did not want him to take away all Defense because of one shield defense powers like Flash.
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (breathing)

Sounds like things are looking good here, so I'll go ahead and Propose for Initial Playtesting!
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (VOTE for initial playtesting)

yea!
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (waiting for initial)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Golden Glider

Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Golden Glider (130), Captain Cold, Weather Wizard, Trickster (James Jesse), Captain Boomerang (Owen Mercer) (520) VS Nightwing II, Black Bat, Robin (Tim Drake) (520)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Golden Glider (100), Captain Cold, The Top, Weather Wizard, Captain Boomerang (Digger), Heat Wave, Oracle (785) VS Prof. X, Pyro, Shadowcat I, Angel, Toad, Jean Grey (785)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Golden Glider (110), Abra Kadabra, The Top, Weather Wizard, Captain Cold (645) VS Black Canary, Green Arrow (Oliver Queen), Plastic Man, Black Lightning (645)
Spoiler Alert!


THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: So I quickly realized that 130 points was a bit much for what Golden Glider offers, so I took her down to 100 & 110 for the next tests. She felt a lot better there. Ultimately the Rogues are still a swingy, weaker faction that struggles against heroes above their point cost (all three games were a slaughter in one direction or the other). However, Golden Glider gives them a bit more oomph for a while and when the dream combo happens where Captain Cold activates a 3rd figure, they can start to do some damage. She’s a nice addition for the faction.

Glider herself has decent survivability with her Intangibility, but 4 life/4 defense still falls quickly. Her special attack is nice for the chance of autowound, but it’s hardly reliable. I felt like I was using her normal & special attacks fairly equally. I’m thinking that moving forward at 110 points is a good plan.
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (Initial is in)

Awesome! Definitely wasn't thinking she would allow them to dominate, but it's a help! She seems to be doing about what I expected, which is the right direction.

Pre-Yea for public testing (Once SP is updated to 110!)
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (Initial is in)

Yeah, love her and Cold as a 200 point block! Yea for testing!
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (Initial is in)

Thanks guys. I'll go ahead and propose for Public Playtesting (When Indigo-2 is done)
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (public playtesting)

Planning out tests today. Anything particular you're hoping to see other than her and Cold (I) of course?
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (public playtesting)

Thanks Bats! Cold's a good partner for sure. If you're not using him as the partner it may be worthwhile to use something other than a pure-Rogue army, as the other Rogue synergy (Top & Weather Wizard) doesn't do much for Golden Glider.
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (public playtesting)

Added a FAQ to explain the bonding chain with Captain Cold & removed "immediately" from Rogue Duo.
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (public playtesting)

Thanks! :up: I think I'll try to run two pure Rogue armies (both with Cold) as I'm mostly interested in developing that faction at this point. I'll let others explore other builds for her.
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (public playtesting)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: GOLDEN GLIDER
Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Golden Glider (110), Captain Cold (90), Heat Wave (110), Captain Boomerang (Digger) (90), Trickster (James) (65), Mirror Master (130), Weather Wizard (100) (695) vs Black Canary (190), Oracle (110), Green Arrow (Oliver) (150), Red Arrow (150), Robin (Dick Grayson) (100)(700)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Golden Glider (110), Captain Cold (90), Red Skull (190), Heat Wave (110), Weather Wizard (100), Oracle (110), Captain Boomerang (Digger) (90) (800) vs Wrecking Crew (800)
Spoiler Alert!

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She's solid but it's hard for any Rogue to be worth their points in their faction right now, as it's just not a strong group as a whole. They're pretty much a house of cards with too many figures that are too easy to take out.
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (public playtesting)

Thanks Bats, great tests! Glad to see Glider do well (I especially liked the times Cold gave a bonus turn to other Rogues, it really felt like a big team-up), even if the Rogues weren't great all together. My next design should do something for that. :)
 
Re: The Book of Golden Glider (public playtesting)

Oh good! :-D Looking forward to that.
 
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