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The Book of Glyph of E-Ray

johnny139

johnny139

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The Book of the Glyph of E-Ray

C3G DC PUBLIC EXCLUSIVE COLLECTION 6
THE SIMIANS AND THE SERAPH

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Card PDF

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Glyph PDF​

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Glyph Bio - Among the gadgets of Gorilla City is the E-Ray, one of various beams and weapons that turn man into monkey. Tyrannical apes such as Gorilla Grodd will often use these items in a scheme to make gorillas the dominant species of Earth, and the Earth's heroes have time and again faced the threat of world dominAPEtion!
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-Type of Glyph-
  • Equipment Glyph: See the rules for Equipment Glyphs HERE.
-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • N/A
-Combinations and Synergies-

Synergy Benefits Received
Synergy Benefits Offered
  • The Glyph of E-Ray changes figures into Simians, giving them access to Simian synergies.
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
  • The Glyph of E-Ray changes figures into Simians, giving them access to synergies such as Solovar's Simian Inspiration and the Gorilla City Warriors' Simian Hero Bonding.
-Heroscapers Community Contributions-
 
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Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

NAME = E-RAY
SUBTITLE = GORILLA GUN

INVENTION EQUIPMENT GLYPH
When this glyph comes into play, place 3 brown Gorilla Markers on this card. Instead of attacking with this figure, you may choose a figure within 5 clear sight spaces. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 12 or higher, the chosen figure receives a wound and you may place or remove a Gorilla Marker on its card. If a Unique Hero that is not an Android has a Gorilla Marker on its card, the Hero's species is Simian, instead of what is listed on the card.
 
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Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

I'm very much not sure on the art. I have the image in the first post, and another one from Dr. Grordbort's collection of replica rayguns.

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They fit the semi-campy style we're going for, but they're mostly because I couldn't find any "realistic" versions of the actual item, which is specifically from an episode of Batman: The Brave and The Bold. If anyone knows where to find something more in-line with that, please, do speak up.

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(Though I do like Grordbort's stuff; certainly not a bad choice for any of your pulp sci-fi needs.)
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

I know this is gonna be a DC Glyph, but I see no reason to leave out Mutates and Mutants here.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

GLYPH OF E-RAY
(GORILLA GUN)

EQUIPMENT GLYPH
Instead of attacking with this figure, you may choose a Unique Human or Metahuman Hero within six clear sight spaces of this figure. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 12 or higher, you may place or remove a brown Gorilla Marker on the chosen figure’s card. A figure with a Gorilla Marker on its card is considered to be a Simian, cannot use any special attacks, and cannot attack non-adjacent opponents.
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  1. What is the them behind only Uniques being affected? I am assuming you did that because you liked the mechanic over the theme. Can we just affect any figure that isn't a DO or Event Hero and give a single wound to any affected figure that isn't a Unique Hero?
  2. Specifying just Humans and Metahumans is too niche IMO. I would rather see this affect a lot more figures. It is a scifi gun that turns bio-organic living beings into Gorillas. Let's roll with that theme.
  3. How many markers is this card gonna have or need? You don't honestly expect it to have a supply that is solely limited on however many the player or game host creates do you?
  4. Why can't they use special attacks and why must they be melee suddenly? They would still have weapons in their hands, and I could easily believe that they still maintain some super powers. Otherwise, not only are you creating a theme fail by not letting Deadpool still shoot his guns, but you are unnecessarily burdening the glyph with a lot of text. A wound and being a Gorilla and not any other species is a lot of value as is for a glyph.
  5. Figures don't attack opponents, they attack figures, and you probably don't want to specify opponent's figures anyways, just leave it as figures.
My suggest changes would look like this:


GLYPH OF E-RAY
(GORILLA GUN)

EQUIPMENT GLYPH
Start the game with 2 brown Gorilla Markers on this card. Instead of attacking with this figure, you may choose a medium figure within six clear sight spaces. Destructible Objects and Event Heroes cannot be chosen. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 12 or higher, the chosen figure receives a wound and if it is a Unique Hero, place or remove a brown Gorilla Marker on the its card. A figure with a Gorilla Marker on its card has the Species of Simian, regardless of what is on its card.
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Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

Griffin said:
What is the them behind only Uniques being affected? I am assuming you did that because you liked the mechanic over the theme. Can we just affect any figure that isn't a DO or Event Hero and give a single wound to any affected figure that isn't a Unique Hero?
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Hmm, that's a good point. I feel like it would probably add a lot of text but I can't think of any thematic reason NOT to affect non-heroes.

Specifying just Humans and Metahumans is too niche IMO. I would rather see this affect a lot more figures. It is a scifi gun that turns bio-organic living beings into Gorillas. Let's roll with that theme.
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Yes and no. It really only affects humans, because it "devolves" them back into gorillas (not at all how evolution actually works, of course, but it's comic book science, let's roll with it). So it should, conceptually, only affect human beings and offshoots of human beings.

I can see reasons to put EVERYTHING into the fold, but... could you turn a dog into a gorilla? An android? A plant? A bee? An Asgardian? A giant constuct made of pure energy?

Currently, more than half of all C3G figures are Humans, Metahumans, or Mutates. That's plenty affecting for me.

How many markers is this card gonna have or need? You don't honestly expect it to have a supply that is solely limited on however many the player or game host creates do you?
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Fair point; an oversight. Two or three seems good.

Why can't they use special attacks and why must they be melee suddenly? They would still have weapons in their hands, and I could easily believe that they still maintain some super powers. Otherwise, not only are you creating a theme fail by not letting Deadpool still shoot his guns, but you are unnecessarily burdening the glyph with a lot of text. A wound and being a Gorilla and not any other species is a lot of value as is for a glyph.
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But see, Deadpool COULDN'T shoot his guns if he was a gorilla. Guns are not designed for gorilla hands. If Gordon is suddenly a big hairy ape, he's not going to be able to fire off his weapon.

This is a big question for me - should E-Ray get rid of powers, and if so, how many powers should it get rid of? I feel like getting rid of all of them is unthematic because there's a lot of powers that you SHOULD be able to use, but keeping them all is just as bad... I mean, can you see a Bat-Gorilla pulling off an Evasive Strike or swinging with a Bat-Grapple?
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

I could back off of the point about Human specificness. In fact, just let it affect Humans and not Metas or Mutates. As you said, there are a lot of Humans right now.

However, on all the other points, I must stand. We have a gorilla right now that shoots an AK and besides, this glyph gets boggy and complicated real quick. Cutting the negation helps a lot.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

Griffin said:
I could back off of the point about Human specificness. In fact, just let it affect Humans and not Metas or Mutates. As you said, there are a lot of Humans right now.

However, on all the other points, I must stand. We have a gorilla right now that shoots an AK and besides, this glyph gets boggy and complicated real quick. Cutting the negation helps a lot.
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I think just Humans would work better. Metahumans are already "not-regular". :shrug:

I was wondering about the negation too. Was there a reason you made it special attacks and not special powers? I don't see how becoming a Gorilla really changes you, except for making you furry and physically stronger, so i don't think the negation needs to be there at all.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

I don't care for the negation either.

I'd rather see 3 markers here - if you're going to have this in the game, might as well be able to use it a lot. :)

I'm fine with just humans, but I'd be fine with all figures too. I'd like to see one or the other, though, to avoid long lists.

I think Griff's rewrite is in the right direction (just needs some wording tweaks), or something like it that just affects humans.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

I'd be fine with all figures but Androids.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

I can definitely get on board dropping the negation. I guess the main discussion now is who to affect. I'm more in favor of humans from a flavor perspective, but everyone from a mechanical perspective - I mean, otherwise, the Glyph won't have much use outside of gorilla armies. If we can de-mutate Mutants or de-vulnerablize Kryptonians, that's probably a lot more potent.

I could go either way on it. Thoughts?
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

I say fun > theme. So let it work on everyone so you can have more fun with it. Why not?
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

Oh, I'm fine with Androids, DOs, and Event Heroes being the exceptions. Don't get me wrong.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

I like the Medium size limitation too.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

I'm in favor of it working on anyone but Androids. :up:
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

quozl said:
I like the Medium size limitation too.
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I don't think size should have anything to do with it, a Gorilla is a Gorilla no matter how large. *cough*King Kong*cough*
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

Yeah - I like the idea of Simian Atom, or Simian Giant Man, etc.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

I'm pretty sure it shouldn't work on simians, either. I don't think you can turn a monkey into a monkey. And then Gorilla Man would just lose his ranged abilities, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

Lord Pyre said:
I'm pretty sure it shouldn't work on simians, either. I don't think you can turn a monkey into a monkey. And then Gorilla Man would just lose his ranged abilities, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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We're cutting the negation aspect and since turning a simian into a simian is redundant, doesn't seem worth mentioning.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

IAmBatman said:
Lord Pyre said:
I'm pretty sure it shouldn't work on simians, either. I don't think you can turn a monkey into a monkey. And then Gorilla Man would just lose his ranged abilities, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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We're cutting the negation aspect and since turning a simian into a simian is redundant, doesn't seem worth mentioning.
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It would be funny in they turned them into an "Un-Simian." :lol:
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

I could see it being used to make them Human, actually ... :shrug: but might be too complex.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

Just to be clear, this is possible:

1. An opponent turns one of your figures into a Simian and it breaks some bonding cycle or synergy that is useful to your army
2. You can attack the figure with the glyph, cause a wound and knocks the gun/glyph out of its hands
3. One of your figures picks up the glyph
4. You then shoot your Simian figure and remove the brown marker, returning him to his original form, there by reinstating the bonding/synergy option.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

Yeah, I considered de-ape-ifying, but figured it'd be too much hassle and text for the novelty of adding it.

And yes, you can take the gun and fix your own guys if you'd like to - it's reversible, if you're so inclined.

Anyways I think this is what we're looking at, based on some fiddling with Griffin's wording:

EQUIPMENT GLYPH
Start the game with 3 brown Gorilla Markers on this card. Instead of attacking with this figure, you may choose a figure within six clear sight spaces. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 12 or higher, the chosen figure receives a wound and you may place or remove a brown Gorilla Marker on the its card. A Unique Hero that is not an Android or a destructible object with a Gorilla Marker on its card has the Species of Simian, regardless of what is listed on the card.
 
Re: The Book of Glyph of E-Ray (Design Phase)

Cool! :)

Edit: tweaked for a typo

EQUIPMENT GLYPH
Start the game with 3 brown Gorilla Markers on this card. Instead of attacking with this figure, you may choose a figure within six clear sight spaces. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 12 or higher, the chosen figure receives a wound and you may place or remove a brown Gorilla Marker on its card. A Unique Hero that is not an Android or a destructible object with a Gorilla Marker on its card has the Species of Simian, regardless of what is listed on the card.
 
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