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The Book of Flash (Wally West)

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The Book of Flash (Wally West)

C3G DC WAVE 20
BATTLE FOR JUSTICE

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Icons set.
Its model number and name are #054 / The Flash.
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Character Bio - "During the Crisis on Infinite Earths, Barry [Allen – The Flash] gave his life to save the Earth when destroying the antimatter cannon that was aimed at Earth. Initially unaware of this, Wally was coaxed by Jay Garrick into assisting the heroes against the Anti-Monitor’s forces. During the final battle with the Anti-Monitor, Wally was struck by a blast of anti-matter energy, which put his disease into remission. In the aftermath of the conflict, Wally took on his fallen mentor's costume and identity [….] Wally's primary superpower is his ability to be able to control the speed of which his body vibrates and to move at super speed, which he uses primarily to run at super-human velocities. This super speed is derived from his connection to the Speed Force: a vaguely defined extra-dimensional energy force from which most speedster heroes draw their powers [….] While most to all speedsters can make a connection and draw upon this force, West "mainlines" power from the Speed Force itself and cannot be cut off from the source [….] Like all Flashes, Wally is surrounded by a protective aura that allows him to resist the heat created by the friction of moving at super speed as well as other environmental consequences of moving at such velocities. It is not known how Wally is able to circumvent the damage moving at such great speeds would normally have on the environment, but it has been hypothesized that his protective aura allows him to "side step" such environmental consequences. Because of his powers and connection to the Speed Force, he can run at varying speeds for extended periods of time without needing rest or causing damage to his body. It is his connection to the Speed Force that constantly rejuvenates him while running making it so he does not literally feed upon his own body to generate the energy for super speed. Even so, as a consequence of his sped up metabolism, he finds it necessary to eat often and in great quantities to help supply the chemical energy needed to run like he does. Using his abilities, Wally can run at such speed that he can run on water, create powerful vortices with his arms or body, and vibrate at such speeds that he becomes invisible to the naked eye. Wally can also match the vibrational constant of solid objects and vibrate through them, passing his molecules through the spaces in between the atoms and molecules of the matter he's vibrating through […. In addition], traveling near the speed of light [allows him] to impart blows which could hit with the force of "a white dwarf star," enabling him to knock down such powerful foes as the White Martians with a single punch. Flash's own durability is regulated by the Speed Force in such cases [….] Wally is the fastest of all the Flashes, arguably even the fastest being that has ever existed and it has been remarked that Wally and Barry Allen are the only two speedsters that were fast enough to even outrun death.” (Wikipedia.org 2012).
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Card Updates:
4 February 2021 - Updated Speed Force to only work on your own Move as intended.
 
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Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

NAME = FLASH
SECRET IDENTITY = WALLY WEST

SPECIES = METAHUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CHAMPION
PERSONALITY = TRICKY

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 12
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 280


SPEED FORCE
Flash may move through all figures, never takes leaving engagement attacks, and does not have to stop his movement when entering water spaces. After Flash's turn, if he did not attack, you may either move him up to an additional 4 spaces, or choose up to 3 figures Flash moved through this turn and roll an unblockable attack die against each chosen figure.

INFINITE MASS PUNCH SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack Special.
If Flash is unengaged at the start of his turn, before moving him, you may choose a figure within 8 clear sight spaces. Count the minimum number of spaces between Flash and the chosen figure. After moving, if you attack the chosen figure with this special attack, roll X dice, where X equals the number of spaces you counted.

SPEED DODGE 4
When Flash defends against an attack, and you roll at least one blank, Flash takes no damage and may immediately move up to 4 spaces.


Spoiler Alert!
 
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Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Do we want to put a cap on Infinite Mass Punch?
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

With disengage and phantom walk, essentially, he'll be able to easily max out his infinite mass punch, so right now I think he's more powerful than Barry. Other than that, it looks solid.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

True. We could make it something like "within 8 clear sight spaces" to limit the number of dice he could throw. He still has to be unengaged at the start of his turn to use it, and he can't use the bonus move of 4 with Super Speed in conjunction with it, so that'll limit him somewhat.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

yep, I think I prefer the "within 8 clear sight spaces" addition. Other then that it should just be "Attack Special" the 1+ isn't required or used. ;)

I also think his cost might go up. He really is more powerful than Barry, though I can't say if that's true in the comicverse or not. But this version is definitely a heavy hitter.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Very cool and I think 8 clear sight spaces will help. Being a special attack, it will bypass a lot of special defenses, so keeping it somewhat reasonable is probably best.

Sure he can deliver a single better attack than Barry, but that is only good vs. 1 figure. So while he is a higher potential threat vs. HH's, he is a lot weaker vs. squads and clusters. Where Barry could minimize opposing attackers with multiple attacks, Wally can't do that and be more susceptible to lucky squaddie attacks chipping away at him.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

I always thought that Barry could only attack one figure with his SA...? It doesn't say he can attack other figures, it just says start the attack with 12 dice and continue attacking. I've always played him as only attack one figure.

If he can attack multiple figures, holy cow Flash just got better. :shock:
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Starting on post #531 in Flash's thread, Williamj35 asked the below question. I replied and then Griff replied with the below response. A couple posts later it was asked why FF didn't include the line at the end of the power that specified that Flash can use it against more than one figure like Major Q9's power says, (from whom this power was derived). Griff responded that we are making a conscious effort to cut text where we can. There are powers like Batarang that say that you "can't" attack the same figure more than once with it, so that is the indicator that you can't do it.

If Flash couldn't attack more than one figure with FF. He would suck and that power would be pretty crappy for him;


[B]williamj35[/B] [URL="http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1372586#post1372586 said:
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[/URL]"] Request for rulings clarification: Can I target a different figure with each roll of fist fusillade? Or do I have to direct all of the attacks against a single target?
A post to the "rulings clarification" section of the book be awesome.
No clarification or ruling should be necessary. Double attack allows you to attack multiple times, and that doesn't need clarifying. You can always target any figure you can target for an attack in Heroscape, unless otherwise stated. Saying that you can attack the same figure has been done officially, and sometimes it was not done, but it is always unnecessary and redundant.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Well, I've gotta say it certainly did not suck and Flash still had a crapton of play in our games. Now he'll get even more!

But now I'll rethink my statement that Zoom is slightly better. :p
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Well it may not have sucked I guess, as it can be awesome against a single figure of course. I meant that it would suck in the sense that if he went into a group of squaddies, being able to only attack one of them would suck because if you killed him with the first attack, then you have a bunch of dice left over and it would be a waste. It would also suck because you wouldn't be able to get the most out of the figure for it's cost. He's great at helping with crowd control.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Barry Allen Flash definitely can attack multiple figures with that SA. :p Craziness that you thought otherwise, LP!

A3n - good notes. When the breathing period is up, I'll go 8 spaces (so he can't charge them from quite so far away or with quite so many dice) and I'll go "Attack Special."
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Love this design! My only comment is that I wish he had a Molecular Excitement Special that exploded and destroyed DO's.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

I could see fielding both Flash designs in the same army. One for crowd control, one for his gianormous hit! Superman might be in trouble.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Love this design! My only comment is that I wish he had a Molecular Excitement Special that exploded and destroyed DO's.

Me too, but I don't want four powers on this card and I didn't want to cut Speed Dodge (Super Speed, obviously, is a must have).

So I'm not seeing how else to get it on the card unless I work it into Speed Dodge (in which case I might have to adjust some other stats so he's not just owning Barry).

Anyway, I'm open to suggestions here, but I'm not going 4 powers. :)
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Anything on this one, Spidey (or anyone else)? I want to move this guy forward, but now I know I'm not going to be satisfied with him unless we can somehow include his ability to explode molecules when he runs through things.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

OK, how about this for a change?

[FONT=&quot]NAME = FLASH[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
SECRET IDENTITY = WALLY WEST

SPECIES = METAHUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CHAMPION[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]PERSONALITY = TRICKY
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4
MOVE = 12
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4
POINTS = 250?

SUPERSPEED[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Flash may move through all figures, never takes leaving engagement attacks, and does not have to stop his movement when entering water spaces. After taking a turn with Flash, if Flash did not use his Infinite Mass Punch Special Attack this turn, Flash may move up to an additional 4 spaces.

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[FONT=&quot]INFINITE MASS PUNCH SPECIAL ATTACK[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Range 1. Attack 1+Special[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If Flash is unengaged at the start of his turn, before moving him, you may choose a figure within 12 clear sight spaces. Count the minimum number of spaces between Flash and the chosen figure. After moving, if you attack the chosen figure with this special attack, you may add X dice to the attack, where X equals the number of spaces you counted.[/FONT]
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SPEED FORCE DODGE 4
When Flash defends against an attack, and you roll at least one blank, Flash takes no damage and may immediately move up to 4 spaces. After moving with Speed Force Dodge 4, one at a time, roll one unblockable attack die against each figure Flash moved through at least once during this movement.[/FONT]
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

I feel like that makes him a LOT better than Barry, though, particularly against melee figures. Is that ideal? I assumed Barry was the best Flash power-level-wise.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

I feel like that makes him a LOT better than Barry, though, particularly against melee figures. Is that ideal? I assumed Barry was the best Flash power-level-wise.

Me too. :p

Maybe to make them even more different, we could lower his move? I've heard it say that the Allens are by far the fastest, and Wally isn't quite as good.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Wrong. Wally is the fastest. He is the only one who can run into and out of the speed force. The Speed Force is a sort of heaven for Speedsters. Only Barry and Wally have ever escaped and only Wally has ever done it on his own. I have a suggestion. Let me write it up and I'll post it.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Really? In Young Justice they make a point to say how he's not an Allen, and Barry and Impulse literally run circles around him. :p
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Really? In Young Justice they make a point to say how he's not an Allen, and Barry and Impulse literally run circles around him. :p

Young Justice happily makes its own version of the DCU. In the comics Wally is clearly established as the fastest ever.

I did lower his normal attack to 4 at least. :) My other thought is to make Speed Force Dodge only work on non-adjacent attacks, but I fear that's too much of a nerf. I don't mind if he comes in a little better than Barry. I don't really think it's clear whether one is "better" than the other. Wally does seem to have a greater connection to the Speed Force, though, is faster, and has a few more abilities available to him.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

I thought Barry had the better connection to the Speed Force & hence didn't need the treadmill to traverse dimensions :shrug:.
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

I thought Barry had the better connection to the Speed Force & hence didn't need the treadmill to traverse dimensions :shrug:.

Speed Force

Some relevant snippets from wiki:

The Speed Force is a vaguely-defined extra-dimensional energy force from which most, but not all, superspeed-powered heroes in the DC Comics universe draw their enhanced abilities. For example, the multiple heroes named the Flash (Jay Garrick, Barry Allen, Wally West, and Bart Allen), Johnny Quick, Jesse Quick/Liberty Belle, XS, the Tornado Twins, and Max Mercury all draw their powers from the Speed Force.

The Speed Force serves as the ultimate measure of velocity in the DC Universe. It introduced several "new" powers/implications to Flash and other Speed Force-powered persons. Some already existed during the Silver Age, but were either unexplained or rationalized as molecular/vibrational control and later retconned into manifestations of the Speed Force.

Infinite mass punch - Introduced in Grant Morrison's JLA title. Flash (Wally West), traveling near the speed of light acquired the relativistic mass of such speed to impart blows which could hit with the force of "a white dwarf star," enabling him to knock down such powerful foes as the White Martians with a single punch. Flash's own durability is regulated by the Speed Force in such cases.
Speed lend/steal - Perhaps his most versatile new power. Because the Speed Force governed all motion, Wally could rob objects of their kinetic energy, motion, or momentum (e.g., bullets in flight or turning a supervillain into a statue) and use the energy to accelerate himself even faster. He could similarly lend speed to inanimate objects or allies, enabling them to temporarily travel nearly as fast as himself. Bart Allen's future self is shown to also have this ability in the Teen Titans Titans Tomorrow story arc.
Metabolize wounds - Accelerating his healing factor while using the Speed Force to sustain him, he could heal from grievous injury without prematurely aging like his counterpart from another reality, Walter West. Related to the ability above, Wally would serve as the "team medic," healing other team members by accelerating their healing factors (without prematurely aging them).[volume & issue needed]
Constructs - Wally discovered that if he concentrated, the Speed Force could be used to create solid constructs. The first time he used this ability was to create a solid armor enabling him to run despite having broken legs. Later examples included sealing up the openings of his costume against disease, creating pockets for holding things, etc. In JLA, when shot by Prometheus, his suit displayed bullet-resistant properties.[volume & issue needed] Most recently, it was used to repair the damage done to the various speedsters' costumes, allowing Wally to change his uniform; Jesse Quick to take up the uniform of her father, Johnny Quick; and Wally's daughter, Iris, to become the new Impulse.[3]

Total recall - Exhibited by Bart Allen, who can retain everything he speed-reads (in contrast to other speedsters, who only retain the information temporarily).
Speed scouts - Exhibited by Bart Allen, who can create Speed Force-duplicates of himself that, due to the timeless nature of the Speed Force, can travel forwards and backwards through time. They can also manipulate objects or merge their consciousness with Bart, informing him of their actions. However, after one of his Speed Scouts was killed, Bart was thrown into a coma and hasn't used the ability since.

Negate Anti-Life Equation - Not yet explained, but it is seen in Final Crisis #4 when Barry Allen kissed his wife, who was under the control of Anti-Life, and the Speed Force surrounded her and she regained her free will.

Intangibility/Self-molecular control - Exhibited by Barry Allen, Bart Allen, and Iris West. Their total control of kinetic energy at a molecular level allows them to match the vibrational frequency needed to travel easily into and through solid matter. Wally West has this ability, too, but with less control, so solid matter usually explodes when coming in contact with him. When Bart Allen internalized the Speed Force into himself, he too showed difficulty with this ability, melting matter if not concentrating enough. Iris' control is as effortless as Barry's, but unlike his, it is somewhat unstable. As an offensive ability, it can be used to scramble one's molecular structure to the point of literal disintegration.

From Wally West:
While many hypothesize that the Speed Force is to an extent sentient, most utilize it primarily as just a tool, drawing upon it and using it when necessary; however, Max Mercury, a veteran speedster, has been able to commune and communicate with it, making it his life's goal to unlocking its secrets with many calling him the "Zen Master of the Speed Force". The Speed Force serves as the ultimate measure of velocity in the DC Universe. They are often referred to in terms of barriers: Sound Barrier, Light Barrier, Time Barrier, Dimensional Barrier, and finally the Speed Force Barrier.[citation needed]

While most to all speedsters can make a connection and draw upon this force, West "mainlines" power from the Speed Force itself and cannot be cut off from the source. This connection to the Speed Force allows him additional abilities than other speedsters, such as lending and taking speed (which manifests in different ways, ranging from becoming speedsters themselves to bolstering others metabolisms and healing abilities, allowing them to recover from injuries in a fraction of the normal time), as well as absorbing kinetic energy in a less direct manner; he once absorbed the kinetic energy of the entire planet Earth while standing at the North Pole when his teammates were forced to move the planet to prevent possible earthquakes. Wally has also found a way to create a costume out of pure Speed Force energy.

Wally is the fastest of all the Flashes, arguably even the fastest being that has ever existed and it has been remarked that Wally and Barry Allen are the only two speedsters that were fast enough to even outrun death.

Some interpretations of Wally are shown as having above average strength. On the Justice League episode "The Brave and the Bold Part 2" he asks the gorilla Solovar how much he weighed, who responded that he weighed around 400 lbs. Wally then proceeded to lift Solovar and run to safety.

So I really haven't seen anything anywhere to make me think that as Flash, Wally is any less powerful than Barry, and I could see a case for him being more powerful (stronger, faster, more abilities).
 
Re: The Book of Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Here's my suggestion:
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SPEED FORCE[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Flash may move through all figures, never takes leaving engagement attacks, and does not have to stop his movement when entering water spaces. After moving with Speed Force, one at a time, roll only one unblockable attack die against each figure Flash moved through during this movement. After taking a turn with Flash, if Flash did not use his Infinite Mass Punch Special Attack this turn, Flash may move up to an additional 4 spaces.
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