The Book of Duke

[fret_gurglo]

The Book of Duke

C3G IDW WAVE 46
REAL AMERICAN HEROES

Comic PDF

Mini PDF

The figure used for this unit is a Nano Metalfigs figure from the GI Joe set.
Its name is Duke.​

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Character Bio - Duke is field commander and second-in-command of the G.I. Joe team after Hawk. He was at the top of his class at Fort Benning, attended U.S. Army Special Language school, has undergone Special Forces training, and worked with South Vietnamese tribesmen. He was also an instructor in four different Special Forces schools. Despite his accomplishments, he has repeatedly turned down any officer commissions offered to him. He believes a commander's place is with his troops, not behind the battle lines.

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-Rulings and Clarifications-

• N/A

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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:

• As a Human, Duke has these Human Synergies.
• As a Commander, Duke has these Commander Synergies.
• As a possible Commando, Duke has these Commando Synergies.
• As a Patriotic figure, Duke has these Patriotic Synergies.

Outgoing Synergy:

• Duke may allow Commandos and Soldiers to move with his Joe Field Commander special power.
• Duke may allow any figure without Super Strength to take a turn with his Coordinated Attacks special power.

Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:

• As a Human, Duke interacts differently with these special powers.

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

• N/A

-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

• Initial playtest: fret_gurglo
• Second playtest: Ericth74
• Third playtest: IAmBatman
• Art: Comic, Figure, Background
• Card Art by tcglkn
• Optional modded figure

 

[fret_gurglo]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

NAME = DUKE
SECRET IDENTITY = CONRAD S. HAUSER

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = COMMANDER
PERSONALITY = PATRIOTIC

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 200

YO JOE!
While there is a revealed Order Marker on this card, Duke has the class of Commando in addition to what is listed on his card.

JOE FIELD COMMANDER
After moving Duke normally, you may choose up to 2 other Commando or Soldier Heroes you control and move them up to 4 spaces each.

COORDINATED ATTACKS
After taking a turn with Duke or a Commando Hero that ends its turn within 6 clear sight spaces of Duke, you may choose a Unique Hero you control that does not have the Super Strength special power and has not yet taken a turn this player turn. You may reveal and remove an Order Marker on this card and take a turn with that Hero.

 

[fret_gurglo]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

Art stuff
Comic

Spoiler Alert!

Background

Spoiler Alert!

Change log

Spoiler Alert!

1) Slight change to Coordinated Attacks to "reveal" an OM instead of "remove" in order to work better with current soldiers Infantry Team Assault special power.
2) Massive overhaul to all powers to better suit the Joe team. Link to changes

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

Really like where Real American Heroes landed. It’s an elegant way to increase faction synergy.

Sounds like Patriotic is a good personality. But I don’t know the character.

 

[fret_gurglo]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

Really like where Real American Heroes landed. It’s an elegant way to increase faction synergy.

Sounds like Patriotic is a good personality. But I don’t know the character.

It really could go either way on personality. He is very patriotic, but also extremely loyal to his troops.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

Loyal strikes me as a little off for a commander. We generally use it for pets and the like in C3G as far as I remember off the top of my head. I understand what you’re trying to go for there but I don’t like Loyal here.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

Early edits. No functional change just reordering and occassion rewording to save time later.

JOE FIELD COMMANDER
After moving Duke, you may choose up to 2 other Soldier figures you control and move them up to 4 spaces each. Then yYou may then move any unrevealed Order Markers from anyon cards you control to the any of the cards of the chosen heroes' cards.

COORDINATED ATTACKS
After any Soldier figure you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Duke takes a turn, you may remove an unrevealed Order Marker onfrom the card of any unique hero you control that does not have the Super Strength special power and take a turn with that figure.

For pasteability:

JOE FIELD COMMANDER
After moving Duke, you may choose up to 2 other Soldier figures you control and move them up to 4 spaces each. You may then move any unrevealed Order Markers from on cards you control to the any of the of the chosen heroes' cards.

COORDINATED ATTACKS
After a Soldier figure you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Duke takes a turn, you may remove an unrevealed Order Marker from the card of a unique hero you control that does not have the Super Strength special power and take a turn with that figure.

 

[MrNobody]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

Isn't Unique Hero usually capitalized, Karat?

I think we need a ruling either way if revealing an Order Marker mid-turn essentially counts as a fresh "OM reveal" for characters that care about those kinds of powers. Like Grunt says;

...you cannot attack with any other figures until you reveal another Order Marker.

Does revealing an OM for Coordinated Attacks count as revealing an Order Marker for that power?

Does someone like Jason get to use his "when an opponent reveals a numbered OM" power if the opponent reveals that OM using a power like Turtle Power or the Time Stone?

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

Isn't Unique Hero usually capitalized, Karat?

Yes, I wasn't really looking as t capitalization, probably should have noticed that though. Good catch

I think we need a ruling either way if revealing an Order Marker mid-turn essentially counts as a fresh "OM reveal" for characters that care about those kinds of powers. Like Grunt says;

...you cannot attack with any other figures until you reveal another Order Marker.

Does revealing an OM for Coordinated Attacks count as revealing an Order Marker for that power?

Does someone like Jason get to use his "when an opponent reveals a numbered OM" power if the opponent reveals that OM using a power like Turtle Power or the Time Stone?

You aren't revealing the OM though, just removing it, but to answer your question, if you were to reveal it, yes I think it should count.

 

[MrNobody]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

Well I'm dumb.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

Sgt. Rock loves this guy.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

I thought the whole point was to NOT have all these guys be soldiers? If we were doing this power, why not make them all soldiers to begin with?

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

I thought the whole point was to NOT have all these guys be soldiers? If we were doing this power, why not make them all soldiers to begin with?

My understanding is the Commandos are designed to augment Soldiers and then Duke is here to bring them all together.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

I thought the whole point was to NOT have all these guys be soldiers? If we were doing this power, why not make them all soldiers to begin with?

My understanding is the Commandos are designed to augment Soldiers and then Duke is here to bring them all together.

Yeah but they could just all be soldiers to begin with and not have this power at all? Just seems like a really roundabout thing to do.

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

The revealed OM trigger made me think of Bumblebee for a team up, but he only moves OM's to Cybertronian cards. I guess maybe because of CA. If I understand this card correctly, he makes X reveal powers a no-go on future Joes then?

 

[fret_gurglo]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

I thought the whole point was to NOT have all these guys be soldiers? If we were doing this power, why not make them all soldiers to begin with?

My understanding is the Commandos are designed to augment Soldiers and then Duke is here to bring them all together.

Yeah but they could just all be soldiers to begin with and not have this power at all? Just seems like a really roundabout thing to do.

There are specific powers that will only work within certain classes of the joes. The basic soldiers will do the basic combat stuff and the elite commandos will do advance training things.

Generally their powers will compliment or be used within their own groups/ranks. Such as Rip Cord allows any commando to activate his bombs. I know Yoda wants to start Stalker soonish and he will lead the commandos. Currently for Soldiers we have an Infantry Team Assault power that only triggers off of Soldiers. These powers and upcoming ones will only work within their specific ranking within the Joe army.

Duke is the field leader of the Joes and this power is meant to represent that this is one team and he brings them together as Soldiers. Commando synergies will still not activate and are still kept separate.

 

[fret_gurglo]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

The revealed OM trigger made me think of Bumblebee for a team up, but he only moves OM's to Cybertronian cards. I guess maybe because of CA. If I understand this card correctly, he makes X reveal powers a no-go on future Joes then?

I had no real use for the X OM on the Joes, nor any plans for it. This power will allow a fourth turn by using the X though, like TMNT.

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

I didn't have any X OM plans as of this moment, just wanted to make sure everyone was on board with that going forward. I know it has come up as an issue on Mutant builds where multiple people want the X, including the leader figure in Prof. X. I can't think of any obvious X themed Joes that would want the X though. Might be a good way to limit certain future combos too, if say we wanted to make another solider leader for a different faction and not have the two leaders stack.

 

[fret_gurglo]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

Isn't Unique Hero usually capitalized, Karat?

I think we need a ruling either way if revealing an Order Marker mid-turn essentially counts as a fresh "OM reveal" for characters that care about those kinds of powers. Like Grunt says;

...you cannot attack with any other figures until you reveal another Order Marker.

Does revealing an OM for Coordinated Attacks count as revealing an Order Marker for that power?

Does someone like Jason get to use his "when an opponent reveals a numbered OM" power if the opponent reveals that OM using a power like Turtle Power or the Time Stone?

This does bring up a good point. I don't want Coordinated Strikes to be limited to only the single attack if someone uses Infantry Team Assault. Does changing just the word remove with reveal work? And is this too powerful of a power team-up?


COORDINATED ATTACKS
After a Soldier figure you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Duke takes a turn, you may remove reveal an unrevealed Order Marker from the card of a Unique Hero you control that does not have the Super Strength special power and take a turn with that figure.

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Duke (Breathing)

I believe revealing an OM as part of any power, even the X, counts as revealing an OM on that card for those powers that care about it. You can't reveal an OM just because you want to, you still need another power that instructs you to reveal the OM.

 

[fret_gurglo]

Re: The Book of Duke (Vote for Initial)

COMPETITIVE REVIEW BOARD CHECKLIST

Spoiler Alert!

Efficiency- Check to see if your design is providing armies with turns/moves/etc. to a degree that would make it difficult or impossible for an opponent to keep up with your output. Yes, multiple turns can be given at the cost of future OM turns.

1. Does your design allow itself or figures to move/attack/take a turn/etc. instead of/in addition to your normal turn for revealing an Order Marker? Is it granting these benefits to too broad a range of units? Does it combine with other powers to create overly long or powerful chains of actions? Yes to all counts

2. Does your design allow you to take actions during an opponent's turn? Can it combine with other powers to create tediously long reactions to enemy actions or a restrictive environment? No

3. Does your design allow you to rearrange your Order Markers or otherwise bypass the costs of Order Marker requirements on the special powers of other figures? Yes

4. Is your design doing anything outside of a player's turn, at the start or end of the round? Is the effect too powerful by itself or when combined with other powers? No

5. Does your design have any powers that trigger anytime it moves as opposed to only when it moves normally on its turn? Will it be too efficient when combined with figures that grant extra moves to figures? No

6. Is your design adding or subtracting from initiative rolls? Will it pair too easily with other figures that alter initiative or have powers triggering on the results of initiative rolls? No


Potency- Check to see if your design is wounding/removing/etc. enemy figures, increasing the chances of other figures in your army doing so, or otherwise directly effecting the number of figures available to players to a degree that would make it difficult or impossible for an opponent to recover from.

1. Does your design have a chance to inflict wounds or destroy figures? Is it getting these chances too frequently or having to high a chance of success? Is the power balanced against expensive targets that can cause a massive swing in the game when destroyed? No

2. Is your design adding to the stats or 20-sided die rolls of other figures in your army? Is it a boosting a broad enough range of units effectively enough to become a 'mandatory' draft or inhibit future design space? Can it be combined with other boosts too easily? No

3. Will your design benefit from stat boosts or other enhancement to an overpowering degree? Will it restrict future growth within its faction or point cost by limiting available boosts to others? No

4. Does your design take control of enemy figures permanently or temporarily? Is it too difficult to for your opponent to regain control of their figure or recover from the losing the figure? Does the method of taking control expose the enemy figure to the powers of other figures in your army that can easily destroy it? No

5. Can your design heal itself or others or revive itself or others? Is it doing so in a way that an opponent cannot hope to overcome in certain scenarios? No

6. Does your design place enemy figures on its card or otherwise have an unconventional method of temporarily removing enemy figures from play? Will it guarantee your victory against a single remaining enemy figure? No


Chicanery- Check to see if your design is preventing your opponent from taking actions with too much ease or is otherwise causing negative play experience through tactics that make your opponent feel you're 'not playing fair'

1. Does your design restrict the movement of enemy figures, or allow you to move enemy figures? Can it do so in a way that results in an unwinnable scenario for your opponent if they are down to one figure, posses only figures with a range of 1, etc.? Can your design easily combine with other figures to greatly impede enemy figures or otherwise gain an excessive advantage? No

2. Does your design effect/change the placement of an enemy's Order Markers, or remove their Order Markers entirely? Can it force Order Markers to go onto cards that have no figures on the battlefield? Can your design easily combine with other figures to completely dictate the placement of an enemy's Order Markers or remove all of their Order Markers? No

3. Does your design inhibit your opponent from attacking your figures or make attacking a losing proposition? Are there scenarios or combinations that make your opponent totally unable to harm your figures through attacking? No

4. Does your design directly negate the powers of enemy figures or otherwise ignore them in a way that can completely disrupt the opponent's strategy or leave them feeling like they are stuck playing figures without special powers? No

5. Does your design become overly powerful in a podded group of figures, or provide significant benefit to your army without leaving your Start Zone? No

6. You can attack your own figures in Heroscape, does your design have any powers that will trigger off of doing so or otherwise wounding/destroying your own figures? Is this intentional on your part? Will the design be too efficient or potent when doing so? No

CONSISTENCY CHECKLIST (SHORT FORM)

Spoiler Alert!

Consistency Concerns
Name and Identity
Verify character is named in a way that is clear, accurate and feels consistent with the way other characters are named. Good

Uniqueness and Type
Verify that the power text reflects the listed uniqueness and type, that the uniqueness fits the character, and that squad size is listed for squads. Good

Left Box
If the character's species, class or personality is reused, verify that the character feels thematically consistent with other figures that have that species, class or personality. If they are not reused, verify that there is no pre-existing species, class or personality that would make more sense. Good

Size and Height
Verify that the listed size and height are accurate. Standing the mini up next to a stack of tiles, and a few other minis of various sizes, is encouraged. I don't have the nano metal figure to compare

Super Strength and Flying
Verify that these special powers are present if they make sense, and not if they don't. Good

New Powers - Names
Verify that any new powers are not using power names identical to, or very similar to, pre-existing powers. Verify that any new powers are actually new and not old powers with new names. Good I think

New Powers - Effects
Verify that the effect and timing of all new powers is clear. Verify that any logical immunities, benefits, or weaknesses (whether those be necessary for thematic or mechanical reasons) are implemented: consider whether defensive powers that work against normal attacks should also work against special attacks, whether or not a power has an elemental component that some figures should resist, and whether or not unliving figures (such as Undead and Androids) should be affected. Good I think

Reused Powers
Verify that the design is reusing powers in place of creating new ones, where reused powers could implement the same theme and mechanics with no differences or only trivial differences. Verify that any reused powers have the correct text. None

Power Level
Verify that the character's movement, attack, range, and defense (in conjunction with any special powers that enhance those stats) feel consistent with the capabilities of characters with analogous powers and abilities. Verify that the character falls into a similar point range to characters with comparative powers and abilities. Good

 

[fret_gurglo]

Re: The Book of Duke (Vote for Initial)

Alright, it doesn't seem that there are any other concerns at this time. I'd like to call a vote for Initial testing.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Duke (Vote for Initial)

Yea. Should that last power require an OM reveal on the initial figure?

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Duke (Vote for Initial)

Yea