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The Book of Dracula

Karat

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The Book of Dracula

C3G MARVEL SUPER SECRET EXCLUSIVE 41
THE TOMB OF DRACULA


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Comic PDF

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Mini PDF

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Amazing Spider-Man set.
Its model number and name are #016 / Dracula.

VARIANT CARDS

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Character Bio - Centuries ago, Prince Vlad Dracula of Wallachia - better known as "Vlad the Impaler" - ruled Transylvania with brutality enough to earn the title. If this was not enough, he soon was gifted with the immense powers of vampirism - stronger, faster, and smarter than the average human, with immense physical and mental powers, not to mention nigh-immortality and an endless thirst for human blood. Dracula's abilities were vast enough to win him position as the lord of all vampires, a throne from which he has ruled for nearly 600 years. He has made countless attempts to wrest control of the world - stopped by the forces of good year after year, battle after battle. Unfortunately, such losses are little more than inconvenience to a being without death - and the war has no end in sight.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:
Outgoing Synergy:
  • Dracula may activate an Undead Hero or Squad with his Lord of the Dead special power. Current Undead.
  • Figures with the Magical Defense may add 2 to the roll for Dracula's Rise from the Grave special power. Current figures with the Magical Defense special power.
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-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-

Immunities
Benefits
Weaknesses
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
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-Heroscapers Community Contributions-
 
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Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

NAME = DRACULA
SECRET IDENTITY = VLAD TEPES DRACULA

SPECIES = UNDEAD
UNIQUENESS = EVENT HERO
CLASS = LORD
PERSONALITY = SANGUINARY

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 490


LORD OF THE DEAD
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and instead of taking a turn with Dracula, you may take a turn with one Undead Hero or Undead Squad you control.

VAMPIRISM
If an opponent's figure receives enough wounds from Dracula's normal attack to be destroyed, remove a Wound Marker from this card. If the figure was a Unique Hero, instead of destroying it normally, place all wounds from the attack on that figure's card and remove up to 2 Wound Markers and all Order Markers from that card. If that figure has enough wounds to be destroyed, destroy it. Otherwise, take control of that figure and its Army Card. That figure's Species is now Undead instead of what is listed on the card. Vampirism never affects Undead, Androids, Constructs, or destructible objects.

RISE FROM THE GRAVE
After revealing a numbered Order Marker on an Army Card you control and before taking a turn with that card, if Dracula has been destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. Add 2 to your roll if that card has the Magical Defense special power. If you roll 19 or higher, remove all Wound Markers from this card and immediately place Dracula on any empty space on the battlefield.

STEALTH FLYING
When Dracula starts to fly, if he is engaged, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

SUPER STRENGTH

FLYING
 
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Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

Some possible comic images.
Spoiler Alert!

Personally, I think the first one is the best.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

:up: Looks great to me. Although I would almost wonder if there should be a part of Vampirism that allows Dracula to gain more life instead of turning Unique Heroes. If I'm fighting someone with a Weapon X army including Bob, I'm not sure how much getting a full-life Bob on my side would be worth compared to healing 2 or 3 wounds on Dracula. Just a thought, and I definitely think it works as is. :)

As far as comic art, the first one should work. Even though I really like the last one.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

:up: Looks great to me. Although I would almost wonder if there should be a part of Vampirism that allows Dracula to gain more life instead of turning Unique Heroes. If I'm fighting someone with a Weapon X army including Bob, I'm not sure how much getting a full-life Bob on my side would be worth compared to healing 2 or 3 wounds on Dracula. Just a thought, and I definitely think it works as is. :)

As far as comic art, the first one should work. Even though I really like the last one.
It could be very useful if say, you already have Deadpool ;)

{Edit} As far as the comic images go, I like all of them to an extent, but the first one catches my eye for it's subtle reference to Vampirism and Lord of the Dead, whereas the last one is my second choice due to its subtle reference to Lord of the Dead.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

Here's some rewording for Vamrirism:
VAMPIRISM
Dracula's destroys an opponent's figure with his normal attack, remove a wound marker from this card. If the destroyed figure was a Unique Hero, remove up to 3 wound markers and all Order Markers from its card and take control of it. For the remainder of the game, that figure has the species of Undead instead of what is listed on its card. Androids, Undead, or Destructible Objects are not affected by Vampirism.

And not to be too nicky, but healing and coming back to life is going to be pretty darn strong. Thanos' is on a 19 or higher and has to be placed adjacent to a figure you control. Maybe make it he comes back at half life?
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

Here's some rewording for Vamrirism:
VAMPIRISM
Dracula's destroys an opponent's figure with his normal attack, remove a wound marker from this card. If the destroyed figure was a Unique Hero, remove up to 3 wound markers and all Order Markers from its card and take control of it. For the remainder of the game, that figure has the species of Undead instead of what is listed on its card. Androids, Undead, or Destructible Objects are not affected by Vampirism.

And not to be too nicky, but healing and coming back to life is going to be pretty darn strong. Thanos' is on a 19 or higher and has to be placed adjacent to a figure you control. Maybe make it he comes back at half life?
That doesn't work for me, cause you still destroy the figure thus Vampirism wouldn't work with Lord of the Dead, which is why I had the receives enough wounds to be destroyed verbiage in there.

As to him coming back, that could work, but I'm ok with him being really expensive.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

I was hoping you'd pick him! Loving it so far, but I have a few suggested changes below. Otherwise it's awesome. :up:

NAME = DRACULA
SECRET IDENTITY = VLAD DRACULA

SPECIES = UNDEAD
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = LORD
PERSONALITY = THIRSTY
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6
MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5
POINTS = ?

LORD OF THE DANCE

After revealing an order marker on this card, and before taking a turn with Dracula, you may either take a turn with one Undead Hero or Squad, or Entertainer Hero you control.

VAMPIRES SUCK!
If an opponent's figure receives enough wounds to be destroyed from Dracula's normal attack, remove a wound marker from this card. If the figure was a Unique Hero, remove up to 3 wound markers and all Order Markers from its Army Card and take control of it. For the duration of the game, that figure loses its Species and has the species of Undead instead. Vampirism never affects Undead, Androids, or Destructible Objects.

RISE FROM THE CASKET
After revealing an Order Marker on a card you control, if Dracula has been destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. Add 2 to your roll if the revealed Order Marker is on the card of a figure with the Magical Defense special power. Subtract 2 from the roll if there is currently daylight outside. If you roll 18 or higher, remove all wound markers from this card and immediately place Dracula on any empty space on the battlefield.

TURN INTO BAT
Before taking a turn with Dracula, you may replace his figure with a bat figure, or replace the bat figure with his figure. While the bat figure is on the battlefield, change his stats to 2 attack and 2 defense, and negate every other ability on this card.


SUPERSTRENGTH
FLYING
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

Here's some rewording for Vamrirism:
VAMPIRISM
Dracula's destroys an opponent's figure with his normal attack, remove a wound marker from this card. If the destroyed figure was a Unique Hero, remove up to 3 wound markers and all Order Markers from its card and take control of it. For the remainder of the game, that figure has the species of Undead instead of what is listed on its card. Androids, Undead, or Destructible Objects are not affected by Vampirism.

And not to be too nicky, but healing and coming back to life is going to be pretty darn strong. Thanos' is on a 19 or higher and has to be placed adjacent to a figure you control. Maybe make it he comes back at half life?
That doesn't work for me, cause you still destroy the figure thus Vampirism wouldn't work with Lord of the Dead, which is why I had the receives enough wounds to be destroyed verbiage in there.
That part can be change back, though most of the time he's probably only going to bring them back 1 or 2 life, 'cause it's not easy to just put the right amount on wounds, though it's not a big deal, just thought I mention it.

So here's the wording you want (though a couple of other changes in there)?
VAMPIRISM
If an opponent's figure receives enough wounds to be destroyed by Dracula's normal attack, remove a wound marker from this card. If the destroyed figure was a Unique Hero, remove up to 3 wound markers and all Order Markers from its card and take control of it. For the remainder of the game, that figure has the species of Undead instead of what is listed on its card. Androids, Undead, or Destructible Objects are not affected by Vampirism.
As to him coming back, that could work, but I'm ok with him being really expensive.
Yeah, that's something that can be changed if needed during playtesting.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

Here's some rewording for Vamrirism:
VAMPIRISM
Dracula's destroys an opponent's figure with his normal attack, remove a wound marker from this card. If the destroyed figure was a Unique Hero, remove up to 3 wound markers and all Order Markers from its card and take control of it. For the remainder of the game, that figure has the species of Undead instead of what is listed on its card. Androids, Undead, or Destructible Objects are not affected by Vampirism.

And not to be too nicky, but healing and coming back to life is going to be pretty darn strong. Thanos' is on a 19 or higher and has to be placed adjacent to a figure you control. Maybe make it he comes back at half life?
That doesn't work for me, cause you still destroy the figure thus Vampirism wouldn't work with Lord of the Dead, which is why I had the receives enough wounds to be destroyed verbiage in there.
That part can be change back, though most of the time he's probably only going to bring them back 1 or 2 life, 'cause it's not easy to just put the right amount on wounds, though it's not a big deal, just thought I mention it.

So here's the wording you want (though a couple of other changes in there)?
VAMPIRISM
If an opponent's figure receives enough wounds to be destroyed by Dracula's normal attack, remove a wound marker from this card. If the destroyed figure was a Unique Hero, remove up to 3 wound markers and all Order Markers from its card and take control of it. For the remainder of the game, that figure has the species of Undead instead of what is listed on its card. Androids, Undead, or Destructible Objects are not affected by Vampirism.
Good point. Hmmm...I'll have to think on this.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

VAMPIRISM
If an opponent's figure receives enough wounds to be destroyed from Dracula's normal attack, remove a wound marker from this card. If the figure was a Unique Hero, remove up to 3 wound markers and all Order Markers from its Army Card and take control of it. For the duration of the game, that figure loses its Species and has the species of Undead instead. Vampirism never affects Undead, Androids, or Destructible Objects.

So a figure with 5 life has 3 wounds & you hit him for 2. Instead of receiving those 2 wounds you remove all 3 wounds leaving him now unwounded & therefore have a full health undead. Is that your intent?
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

VAMPIRISM
If an opponent's figure receives enough wounds to be destroyed from Dracula's normal attack, remove a wound marker from this card. If the figure was a Unique Hero, remove up to 3 wound markers and all Order Markers from its Army Card and take control of it. For the duration of the game, that figure loses its Species and has the species of Undead instead. Vampirism never affects Undead, Androids, or Destructible Objects.

So a figure with 5 life has 3 wounds & you hit him for 2. Instead of receiving those 2 wounds you remove all 3 wounds leaving him now unwounded & therefore have a full health undead. Is that your intent?

I was trying to make it kinda like Doomsday where they have as many wound markers on their card as their life value and then you remove 3 so in your example it would be at 2 wounds with 3 life remaining, but that is seeming really difficult to accomplish.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

I get the intent there - and I think it works. It receives enough wounds to be destroyed, then, rather than be destroyed, you remove 3 and take control of it. But I may be misunderstanding exactly how wounding works when a figure would be destroyed so...?

I'm sort of wishing we could use the Fear Itself Dracula because it's SO badass... but it's also SO expensive. :grumble:
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

I get the intent there - and I think it works. It receives enough wounds to be destroyed, then, rather than be destroyed, you remove 3 and take control of it. But I may be misunderstanding exactly how wounding works when a figure would be destroyed so...?

I'm sort of wishing we could use the Fear Itself Dracula because it's SO badass... but it's also SO expensive. :grumble:

I know!!!
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

When this was discussed much earlier, my intent was that the power worked like this:

George has 2 wounds and 4 Life. Dracula puts 4 wounds on George. George is destroyed with 6 wounds on his card. Dracula now takes control of George and removes 3 of those wounds so George now has 3 wounds on his card.

This allows for Dracula over-killing someone so that they can't be revived. Like so: Isamu only has 1 Life. Dracula puts 4 wounds on him. Even after removing 3 wounds, Isamu still has 1 wound and would be destroyed.

However we want this power to work, it will require an FAQ so we should just decide what we want.

Also, I'd rather we drop Rise From The Grave especially since Karat has incorporated Life Drain into Vampirism but that's just my personal preference.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

When this was discussed much earlier, my intent was that the power worked like this:

George has 2 wounds and 4 Life. Dracula puts 4 wounds on George. George is destroyed with 6 wounds on his card. Dracula now takes control of George and removes 3 of those wounds so George now has 3 wounds on his card.

This allows for Dracula over-killing someone so that they can't be revived. Like so: Isamu only has 1 Life. Dracula puts 4 wounds on him. Even after removing 3 wounds, Isamu still has 1 wound and would be destroyed.

However we want this power to work, it will require an FAQ so we should just decide what we want.

Also, I'd rather we drop Rise From The Grave especially since Karat has incorporated Life Drain into Vampirism but that's just my personal preference.
I agree with it needing a Faq, and that is an interesting route to go, I'm not sure which way I prefer.

Honestly, I'd rather drop the life drain aspect from his card than Rise From the Grave.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

I'm good with quozl's direction, makes sense to me.

And either way on life drain vs. Rise, even keeping both of them. On one hand he'll be really, REALLY tough to kill, but on the other, he's DRACULA.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

I'm good with quozl's direction, makes sense to me.

Likewise, though this "overkill" concept is new and should require us to spell it out a bit more in the wording.

Maybe like so?

VAMPIRISM
If an opponent's figure receives enough wounds to be destroyed from Dracula's normal attack, remove a wound marker from this card. If the figure was a Unique Hero, after placing all wounds from Dracula's attack, remove up to 3 wound markers and all Order Markers from the destroyed figure's Army Card and take control of it. For the duration of the game, that figure loses its Species and has the species of Undead instead. Vampirism never affects Undead, Androids, or Destructible Objects.


johnny139 said:
And either way on life drain vs. Rise, even keeping both of them. On one hand he'll be really, REALLY tough to kill, but on the other, he's DRACULA.

:word: But putting him in the mix with other Undead as such a powerful threat and powerful survivor scares me quite a bit in terms of the metagame. Think about how tough it was to keep Judge Death reasonable given the Crow, Grundy, Gentleman Ghost, and all the rest.

I do have one small suggestion to help:

I'd love to see LORD OF THE DEAD be instead of a turn with Dracula (so he can't go around healing himself if he's dishing out orders) and be either a Unique Undead Hero or up to two squads of Undead Minions. That way he specifically works very well with the Vampire Minions, whom I believe could use the boost, and he doesn't give so much of a boost to all of those problematic Undead Unique Heroes I mentioned above. By specifying Minions, we also don't paint ourselves into a design corner for future Undead Squads who might be too powerful for this treatment.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

I think it'd be weird for him to not be able to command Undead Squads in general.

"an Undead Hero or Squad or up to two squads of Undead Minions" feels really awesome to me though, good suggestion.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

I'm cool with that. :up:, but reiterating that it should definitely be an "instead of taking a turn with Dracula" power. :)
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

I'm good with quozl's direction, makes sense to me.

Likewise, though this "overkill" concept is new and should require us to spell it out a bit more in the wording.

Maybe like so?

VAMPIRISM
If an opponent's figure receives enough wounds to be destroyed from Dracula's normal attack, remove a wound marker from this card. If the figure was a Unique Hero, after placing all wounds from Dracula's attack, remove up to 3 wound markers and all Order Markers from the destroyed figure's Army Card and take control of it. For the duration of the game, that figure loses its Species and has the species of Undead instead. Vampirism never affects Undead, Androids, or Destructible Objects.
Uh, the 'overkill' concept isn't really new, I'm pretty sure Morbius want through something similar.

Though how about this for Vampirism:
VAMPIRISM
When Dracula's destroys a figure with his normal attack, remove a wound marker from this card. If the destroyed figure was not a Huge figure, you may place one previously destroyed Undead Minion figure on the space previously occupied by the destroyed figure, if possible. Undead, Androids, or Destructible Objects are not affected by Vampirism.

johnny139 said:
And either way on life drain vs. Rise, even keeping both of them. On one hand he'll be really, REALLY tough to kill, but on the other, he's DRACULA.

:word: But putting him in the mix with other Undead as such a powerful threat and powerful survivor scares me quite a bit in terms of the metagame. Think about how tough it was to keep Judge Death reasonable given the Crow, Grundy, Gentleman Ghost, and all the rest.

I do have one small suggestion to help:

I'd love to see LORD OF THE DEAD be instead of a turn with Dracula (so he can't go around healing himself if he's dishing out orders) and be either a Unique Undead Hero or up to two squads of Undead Minions. That way he specifically works very well with the Vampire Minions, whom I believe could use the boost, and he doesn't give so much of a boost to all of those problematic Undead Unique Heroes I mentioned above. By specifying Minions, we also don't paint ourselves into a design corner for future Undead Squads who might be too powerful for this treatment.
I yeah, I little afraid that Dracula could be better than Superman (I).

I like instead of taking a turn better.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

I like the "instead of" verbiage, and it would be fun to let him activate two squads of Undead Minions, or 1 Undead Unique.

The Overkill concept makes sense to me the way Bats spelled it out. Doesn't seem overly complicated.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

I dunno, I kinda liked being able to take a turn with him too. I'm not really sure which way I'd prefer yet. I like being able to heal him, but I prefer ressurection, and I like being able to take a turn with him and an Undead Hero or Squad...not really sure what way to go here.
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

How about he bonds with a single vampire squad, or instead of his turn takes a turn with any undead hero? That way he's still useful with anyone, but gives the minions a bigger bonus!
 
Re: The Book of Dracula(Design Phase)

ZJ - I'm not seeing where Morbius applies to this situation at all ... nothing in his "Living Vampire" power about removing wounds from an enemy figure's card. :shrug:
 
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