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The Book of Doctor Octopus (I)

Griffin

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The Book of Doctor Octopus (I)

C3G MARVEL WAVE 10
TERRIFYING TEAM-UPS

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Clobberin Time set.
Its model number and name are #076-078 / Doctor Octopus.

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Character Bio - Otto Octavius was a shy lad growing up. He was often bullied at school for being smart and then bullied at home by his father for allowing other children to pick on him. His mother was abusive in her own way too; always pushing Otto towards education and not allowing him to participate in any other activities. His isolation became worse when his mother convinced him to break up with his loving sweet heart in college, then he really lost touch with reality when his mother died due to a heart attack that he induced by yelling at her for dating a simple librarian after his father died. Focused on his research and education, Otto went on to become a brilliant physics and nuclear scientist. He created a set of mechanical arms that allowed him to safely handle hazardous materials, but when a powerful radioactive explosion occurred, it melted the arms to his body and mutated his brain to develop a telepathic link to the 4 metal limbs. Now completely broken and mentally unstable, Doctor Octavius has turned to a life of crime calling himself Doctor Octopus.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q - How do I climb with Doctor Octopus?
    A -
    Level - heights of elevation on the battlefield

    Space - horizontal locations on the battlefield that figures can occupy

    When you would move with a flying figure, you count each space as you go while ignoring elevations. When Doctor Octopus climbs, you count each space as you go basically ignoring up to 2 levels. So Doctor Octopus moves just one space from level 0 to a level 2 hill and only used 1 movement. He could also move one space from level 0 to a level 4 hill and only use 2 movement.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • N/A
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-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-

Immunities:Benefits:Weaknesses:_________________________________________________________________

-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
  • N/A
-Heroscapers Community Contributions-
  • Initial playtest: Griff
  • Second playtest: Marv_ARt
  • Third playtest: Johnny
  • Art by tcglkn (originally Good Pig)
 
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Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

NAME = DOCTOR OCTOPUS
SECRET IDENTITY = OTTO OCTAVIUS

SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CRIMINAL
PERSONALITY = OBSESSIVE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 215


TELESCOPIC TENTACLES 4
Doctor Octopus may add 1 to his range when attacking a figure whose base is no more than 6 levels higher than his height or 6 levels lower than his base. When Doctor Octopus attacks, he may attack three additional times.

CYBER CLAW
All opponents' small or medium figures that enter or occupy a space adjacent to Doctor Octopus may not move. Figures affected by Cyber Claw cannot be moved by any special power on an Army Card.

EXPERT CLIMBING
When moving up levels of height to move onto a space with Doctor Octopus, do not count spaces for the first two levels and only count one space for each two levels after the first two. You may ignore Doctor Octopus' height of 5 when climbing. Doctor Octopus never takes falling damage or major falling damage.

SUPER STRENGTH
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

Good call, GP! :)
And, yeah, Tickle, with his normal attack being 3, you have to be very careful. Imagine this guy on height with Captain America boosting him - you're already up to 4 attacks of 5!
Griff - make sure to post a link to this in the Inner Sanctum Discussion Cave!
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

I agree with GP, also I can see elevation changes of up to 3 only counting for 1 space with him. Anyway it's a great design Griff :up:.
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Doctor Octopus

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass
, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? I was thinking 230, but I am already seeing some 240 potential, and I haven't used any attack boosts other than height advantage.
- Give a brief overview. He is great at closing gaps fast. He can't fly, and it doesn't feel like he can either, but he does well at catching up to fliers. Also, his attacks feel like a one man SQUAD.
Spoiler Alert!

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Squad Test
- Does it pass
, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 240 or 250.
- Give a brief overview. .
Map: Custom.
Units: Doctor Octopus VS Hydra Agents x3.
Spoiler Alert!

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Squad Test
- Does it pass
, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 240.
- Give a brief overview. It was nice to see him check so well, even if it was by a squad.
Map: Custom.
Units: Doctor Octopus VS SHIELD Agents x2.
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
- Does it pass
, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 240.
- Give a brief overview. He is fast and powerful, but he isn't above a good butt whipping.
Map: Custom.
Units: Doctor Octopus, Black Mask, Green Lantern (John Stewart), and Green Construct (Mech) - VS - Batman, Elektra, Bullseye, and Hand Ninja x3.
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
- Does it pass
, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 240.
- Give a brief overview. Doc Ock is annoying and a bit terrifying. He is sooo good at cutting a figure off from wherever it is trying to go. Also, his multiple attacks are great, but never feel like they are better than a lot of Hasbro Squads.
Map: Custom.
Units: Doctor Octopus, Kingpin, and Hired Guns - VS - Spider-Man, Spider-Girl, Dare Devil, and Robin.
Spoiler Alert!
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

I think I will test him at 240 from here on out.
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

Thanks for the quick response. Yeah, that attack of 3 is a bit deceiving at first glance. I am glad you "get" the design and its power. :D
Hahma said:
Griffin said:
Thanks for looking.


NAME = DOCTOR OCTOPUS


SECRET IDENTITY = OTTO OCTAVIUS


SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CRIMINAL
PERSONALITY = OBSESSED

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 230

TELESCOPIC TENTACLES 4
Doctor Octopus may add 1 to his range when attacking a figure whose base is no more than 6 levels higher than his height or 6 levels lower than his base. When Doctor Octopus Attacks, he may attack three additional times.

CYBER CLAW
All small or medium opponent's figures that enter or occupy a space adjacent to Doctor Octopus may not move. Figures affected by Cyber Claw cannot be moved by any special power on an Army Card.

EXPERT CLIMBING
When counting spaces for Doctor Octopus' movement, elevation changes of up to 2 levels count as one space. You may ignore Doctor Octopus' height of 5 when climbing.

SUPER STRENGTH

At first glance, the attack of 3 seems kind of low considering the power of those tentacles. However, unlike the Hydra who loses one attack for each wound, Doc Oc doesn't, so he'll always get 4 attacks (if possible). Add to that the Climbing that will help him get height advantage for 4 attacks of 4, that is pretty powerful enough, not to mention the Cyberclaw that keeps opponents from disengaging.

I think he looks really solid as is. Great job!:thumbsup:

He will be really nasty when in the same army as Wonder Woman. Doc Oc adjacent to WW can keep opponents from getting out of her Lasso and if the opponent is a GL or someone depending on a special power to help their defense, they are in deep doo doo when Doc Oc puts the beat down on them with 4 attacks of 3 (or 4 with height). :twisted:
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

All but 2 army tests are now done.
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

Yeah, he's looking like at least 240. I could see him going to 250 possibly as well. Having short range, not being quite a flier, and having no defensive power holds him down, but he does have pretty solid life and defense.
His attack potential, of course, is off the charts. :)
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

Multi attack w reach is very powerful on a crowded map when doing an army match
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

So how does his climb power work with ladders, does he count 3 spaces as one? Just something that popped into my mind.

So far I am seeing him as 240-250 and I hope your last test is using him in a Kingpin army because I see that as important testing.
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

Check out Catwoman's FAQ section for the ladder question. ;)

Sure, I can make the last test a Kingpin army. :D
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

Check out Catwoman's FAQ section for the ladder question. ;)

Sure, I can make the last test a Kingpin army. :D

I never use her so I was unfamiliar with that ruling.

Thanks for appeasing me. :D
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

All done here. 240 looks good to me from here.
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

It'd be nice to know what units were used in that last test. ;)
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

240 is looking good. I wouldn't be surprised if that goes up to 250 after the public tests, though! :) I think 240-250 is pretty cemented as his range, though.
 
Re: The Book of Doctor Octopus - Designing

My only concern is that this guy really has four attacks of four regular potential and just like Blob, once he's got you there, he has four attacks of four until one of you is dead. And unless you're very lucky, it won't be Doc Ock. Four attacks of two should be considered. Squad scape has proven that even a lot of low attacks will net wounds (ala Flash too) so a start of four attacks of two with four attacks of three on his own potentially would be good.
Alternatively, I could see his life going down to 4. This guy is a nerdy wuss with really powerful mechanical arms. If you can get through that defense he should be easy to take down, but that's a big IF.

EDIT: Actually, I really think this is the way to go. And after double-checking the tests, it wouldn't really change any of the outcomes. (except two Heavy Hitter tests)
 
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