The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson)

[Arkham]

The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson)

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the WizKids Promos: 2012 Convention Exclusive set.
Its model number and name are #D-003 / Dr. Fate.​

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Character Bio - Kent V. Nelson, grand-nephew of the original Doctor Fate, Kent Nelson, was down on his luck after making several poor decisions in his marriage and career as a Psychiatrist. One night as he was laying in a dumpster, he came across the Helm of Nabu. While initially he denied any existence of magic, even going so far as to try to sell the Helm at a pawn shop, he soon uses its benefits to help him gamble.

After Kent has a confrontation with a demon Negal, he began to accept his role as a hero, the new Doctor Fate. He went on to aid the JSA in a time of need, posing as the original Doctor Fate, and even managed to resurrect Mister Terrific after he was killed in battle.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-

• N/A

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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:

• As a Human Doctor Fate has these Human Synergies.
• As a figure with the Magical Defense special power, Doctor Fate has these Magical Defense Synergies.
• As a Human with the Magical Defense special power, Doctor Fate may be chosen for Wong's Loyal Manservant special power.
• As a Protégé, Doctor Fate has these Protégé Synergies.

Outgoing Synergy:

• Doctor Fate may save a Mystery Man or Protégé from being destroyed once per game with his The Hand of Fate special power.

Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:

• As a figure with the Flying special power, Dr. Fate cannot be affected by aspects of certain special power. Current Special Powers that Interact Differently with the Flying Special Power.
• As a figure with the Super Strength special power, Dr. Fate cannot be affected by aspects of certain special power. Current Special Powers that Interact Differently with the Super Strength Special Power.

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

• Justice Society Faction Strategy

-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

• Initial playtest: Arkham
• Second playtest: MrNobody
• Third playtest: Dr Jekyll
• Fourth playtest: Ronin
• Art: Comic, Figure, Background
• Art by Arkham

 

[Arkham]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

NAME = DOCTOR FATE
SECRET IDENTITY = KENT V. NELSON

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = PROTÉGÉ
PERSONALITY = RELUCTANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 4
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 270

DOUBLE DOWN
After attacking, you may choose an adjacent figure. Place a combat die on this card with either a skull, shield, or blank facing up, then roll a single combat die. If the die rolled matches the die face up on this card, and that die is a:
• skull, the chosen figure receives 1 wound.
• shield, you may remove 1 Wound Marker from this card.
• blank, the chosen figure receives 1 wound and you may remove 2 Wound Markers from this card.
If the die rolled does not match, you must place a Wound Marker on or remove one unrevealed Order Marker from this card, then use Double Down one additional time.

THE HAND OF FATE
Once per game, after a friendly Mystery Man or Protégé is destroyed, you may place or remove Wound Markers until the Hero has up to 2 Life remaining and then place the Hero on an empty space adjacent to Doctor Fate.

MAGICAL DEFENSE
When Doctor Fate is attacked by an opponent's figure that does not have the Magical Defense special power, the most wounds Doctor Fate can take for this attack is one.

SUPER STRENGTH

FLYING

 

[Arkham]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Comic:

Spoiler Alert!

Figure:

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Background:

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@Yodaking @johnny139 @Soundwarp SG-1 @japes @Lord Pyre

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Interesting gamble in that if you miss you must do it a 2nd time. That means you can't limit the fall out by just removing an X OM from the card. Fail twice and you pay some kind of price. I think I would still give it a go once per round though with the X on his card. Just hope you don't fail twice in a row.

 

[japes]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Oh that's nice. I missed that interplay originally.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Very interesting! I really dig The Hand of Fate as an addition to the faction.

 

[johnny139]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

I'm not sure if he should count as a Mystery Man or a Protege - he's certainly a man, and certainly mysterious, but is he a Mystery Man? So far it's been reserved exclusively for Golden Age heroes. I think I'm fine with bending that a bit here, as he does fit the faction. Probably.

I'd probably go with "Reluctant" or something for his personality, since we seem to be leaning in on the earlier part of his personality where he's kind of doubting magic and being a hero and all that. But I'm not really familiar with the character so maybe I'm wrong.

Really like his power set though! I think he'll be a fun addition to the JSA as a faction. My only question is in Double Down, the last line - "use Double Down one additional time." Is this meant to include placing the die? Like, you place a blank, you roll a shield: do you then get to place a skull before you roll again, or do you have to try for a blank the second time?

 

[Arkham]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

I am a bit torn on the Mystery Man vs. Protege deal as well, but I ultimately went with the former as he doesn't stay on as a recruit or anything, he pretty much just gets pulled in as they thought he was the previous Fate, and he does his best to help out and pretend to be the original Fate to the villains.

I'm good with something like that for the personality.

I intended the power to be you re-place your bet. So if you go big with the first attempt, you can try for a safer pick the second one. Or vice versa(say you really need a heal or something). I figured that way would be more fun, but I'm open to discussion if others prefer you be locked in to the first choice.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Hmm, well the theme of the name "Double Down" implies you keep going with your original gamble, right?

 

[Arkham]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Hmm, well the theme of the name "Double Down" implies you keep going with your original gamble, right?

I'm not married to the name fwiw, but in blackjack you can double down by doubling your bet and before the results are shown. So it's a little different here in execution.

If the desire is to see you locked into your initial bet/choice, I'd imagine the wording would need to be changed, and the potential benefits also adjusted to account for that.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Gotcha. I have no strong feelings on direction for that one, so long as it's clear in the verbiage. Interesting mechanic for sure.

 

[johnny139]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Yeah, right now the wording suggests that you do get to place the die again, so if that's the case we're fine. No strong preference on my part, but I agree we'd probably need to up the reward on the blank to make sure it's worth trying for.

 

[Ronin]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Yeah, right now the wording suggests that you do get to place the die again, so if that's the case we're fine. No strong preference on my part, but I agree we'd probably need to up the reward on the blank to make sure it's worth trying for.

Cool to see this guy underway!

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

I like the idea of gambling for the blank, failing, burning the X, and then taking a 'safer' bet for the second chance and trying for the skull. If you get locked in for both bets, then I'm not sure how often I would try for the blank.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Yeah, I agree with that take, YK. Especially now that I showed I know nothing about the theme of the name.

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Double down doesn't fit the Black Jack use to a T, but I think it still works because the power forces you to bet a second time when you lose.

 

[johnny139]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Yeah, Double Down is probably still workable as a name. We could really go with something as simple as "ROLL THE DICE" for a name - something that generally represents taking a risk.

 

[Arkham]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Roll the Dice was my 2nd option, so I'm ultimately down for either. Both are cool and get the gambling theme across.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Double Down is a cool name for a gambling character. We could channel Superior Spider-Man's catchphrase that came out of no where and use "The Die is Cast!"

Currently it seems a bit too risky, especially for anything other than a skull. If there was a way to tilt the odds in his favor a little more, but I'm not exactly sure how to. I dig the power though in general.

 

[MrNobody]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Zatanna II can make the gamble on a blank a little safer. It's all part of the Expanded Arkham Magicverse.

 

[Yodaking]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Had to double check that combo. The d20 needed by Zatanna helps mitigate my concerns there. Makes for a nice army build concept, hopefully you can pull it off at least once before one of the two go down.

 

[japes]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

Double Down is a cool name for a gambling character.

Yeah that's why Flash has a Rogue named Double Down.

 

[Arkham]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Breathing)

I propose a vote to move to Initial Playtesting.


COMPETITIVE REVIEW BOARD CHECKLIST

Spoiler Alert!

1. Does the design disrupt opponent's Order Markers in a way that offers a net gain in turns taken with strong figures versus the turns your opponent can take with strong figures (Ozymandias, Joker (I), Meteorite)?
   No.
2. Does the design offer auto-wounding that either doesn't require taking turns or is otherwise extremely efficient (War Machine, Jason Voorhees, Cosmic Cube)?
   Unlikely.
3. Does the design immobilize figures or prevent turn-taking (Blob, Spider-Girl, Diablo, Green Lantern Alan)?
   No.
4. Does the design move opponent's figures in a way that's easy to pull off and can move figures multiple spaces in multiple directions (Graviton, Magneto, Vulture)?
   No.
5. Does the design allow for moving friendly figures without taking turns, or for moving 2+ friendly figures while still taking a turn (Martian Manhunter , Green Lantern John, Angel)?
   No.
   [*]Does the figure allow for two figures, one of them being a wide range of possible figures, to both attack on a single Order Marker (Zombie, Robot, Iron Patriot, Ms. Marvel, Rocket [II], Martian Manhunter [II], Nebula, Baby Groot, Havok)?
   No.
   [*]Does the design offer any sort of passive boost outside of a narrow set of figures (Star-Lord, Sage, Brainiac 5, Captain America, Batman [III])?
   No.
   [*]Does the design help keep your allies alive just by being nearby (Daring Decoy, Aaron Cash, Jocasta, Weather Wizard)?
   He can revive one figure once per game with 2 life remaining, within the JSA synergy web, but this should not pose an issue.
   [*]Is it OK for the design to have defensive abilities that could make it essentially unkillable in some matchups or endgame situations (Cosmic Cube, Healing Factor, Master Martial Artist)?
   N/A
   [*]If the figure has auto-destroy powers or powers that can force the opponent's figures to attack each other, are they balanced for strong opposing figures and/or boosts that can make the powers more reliable (Puppet Master, Psycho-Man, Enchantress)?
   N/A
   [*]Is the figure likely to earn its value many times over by either running out alone at the start of a battle (pre-eval Crow, Solomon Grundy) or by sitting in the startzone until the end of a battle (Arnim Zola, Silk Spectre)?
   You'll want to keep him back until the revive, but beyond that there's nothing pushing an ideal bullrush or turtle type strategy.
   [*]Will synergies in the design create concerns for future designs (Mad Thinker, pre-eval Enchantress, Star-Lord)?
   No, unless there's an ultra-powerful Mystery Man/Protege to be designed, but even then, its only 2 life.
   [*]Does the design combo particularly well with one of the design concerns above (Magma)?
   No.
   

CONSISTENCY CHECKLIST (SHORT FORM)

Spoiler Alert!

Consistency Concerns
Name and Identity
Verify character is named in a way that is clear, accurate and feels consistent with the way other characters are named.
Yes.
Uniqueness and Type
Verify that the power text reflects the listed uniqueness and type, that the uniqueness fits the character, and that squad size is listed for squads.
Yes.
Left Box
If the character's species, class or personality is reused, verify that the character feels thematically consistent with other figures that have that species, class or personality. If they are not reused, verify that there is no pre-existing species, class or personality that would make more sense.
Correct.
Size and Height
Verify that the listed size and height are accurate. Standing the mini up next to a stack of tiles, and a few other minis of various sizes, is encouraged.
Correct.
Super Strength and Flying
Verify that these special powers are present if they make sense, and not if they don't.
Correct.
New Powers - Names
Verify that any new powers are not using power names identical to, or very similar to, pre-existing powers. Verify that any new powers are actually new and not old powers with new names.
Not similar to anything prior in terms of naming.
New Powers - Effects
Verify that the effect and timing of all new powers is clear. Verify that any logical immunities, benefits, or weaknesses (whether those be necessary for thematic or mechanical reasons) are implemented: consider whether defensive powers that work against normal attacks should also work against special attacks, whether or not a power has an elemental component that some figures should resist, and whether or not unliving figures (such as Undead and Androids) should be affected.
All good.
Reused Powers
Verify that the design is reusing powers in place of creating new ones, where reused powers could implement the same theme and mechanics with no differences or only trivial differences. Verify that any reused powers have the correct text.
Correct.
Power Level
Verify that the character's movement, attack, range, and defense (in conjunction with any special powers that enhance those stats) feel consistent with the capabilities of characters with analogous powers and abilities. Verify that the character falls into a similar point range to characters with comparative powers and abilities.
He's still granted the power of the Helm, but he's less experienced, so a level or two below the original Fate seems fair.

 

[Tornado]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Vote for Initi

Yea

 

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson) (Vote for Initi

yea