The Book of Dark Dimension

[johnny139]

The Book of the Dark Dimension Map

A C3G Competitive Map

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Required Sets: Rise of the Valkyrie™ Master Set, Battle for the Underdark™ Master Set, Volcarren Wasteland™​

MAP Bio - Beyond the boundaries of our dimension lie the Splinter Realms, pocket universes ruled by the likes of Mephisto, Molgotha, Hela, and more. Home to the Dread Dormammu, the Dark Dimension is one of these hellish planes. With its pits of fire and brimstone, its hanging stalactites and cold stone dungeons, its dark energy pervading every inch, only the hardiest of mystics can hope to survive there for long.

GLYPHS USED:
None

DESTRUCTIBLE OBJECTS USED:
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SETUP:

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SPECIAL RULES:
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-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

• First playtest: omael
• Second playtest: Red Eyed Jedi
• Art by:

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

VirtualScape File

 

[Good Pig]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

I like it. Just wish I could put it together. No lava set. Maybe I'll follow Grishnakh's tutorial someday and create my own.

 

[tcglkn]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

BTW I like this map and hope to set it up at some point.

 

[Scapemage]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Love the map with the new path around the lava.

 

[davidlhsl]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Very nice looking map, and it would be fantastic for a Capture the Flag type game (never played this type of game, but I'd like to). This is bigger than my poor card table, so I won't be able to put this one together -- now. I should get another one for maps such as this.

 

[davidlhsl]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

I just downloaded and checked out the VS file, and I notice it's designed at a diagonal. Counting the hexes, I think I can build this!

I've got a game to play on Sewer Labyrinth tomorrow night, so I should be able to set this up sometime this weekend.

After this map, I want to build Hol Hall!

So many great maps!

 

[johnny139]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

So, anyone else have any other opinions on this map? I intend to give it a playtest or two soon, and assuming that goes well, send it off to testing.

 

[quozl]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Have you tried shifting the lava more toward the middle of the map? That way it's at a more advantageous location to grab height.

 

[johnny139]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Alright, so, played a pretty straightforward match earlier today.

TEAM 1 (1200 Points): Captain America (C3G), Incredible Hulk (Hasbro), Spider-Man (Hasbro), Thor
TEAM 2 (1190): Green Lantern: Hal Jordan, Batman: Bruce Wayne, Green Arrow: Oliver Queen, Black Canary, Wonder Woman

I won't go into too much detail, but Hal revealed the Glyph of Temporal Disturbance in the center of the battlefield... yeah, bad luck for the other guys. He ends up toasting the Hulk easily. But, the other guys keep back and lure him off, so, there's that. Black Canary tries to climb over the lava hill, but finds it quicker to just cut across. Captain America takes a lava bath. Thor gets toasted. It's a bad scene.

But, Spidey helps make a comeback. He baits Hal onto lava, which ultimately kills him at the end of the round. He tangos with Arrow and Canary, killing them both (Arrow by warping him into lava). He deals two wounds to Wonder Woman before being killed.

...

So, yeah. Temporal Displacement Glyph. Kind of... changed the scale of the battle. Think we should specify a Glyph for that spot, or just let the dice roll? Otherwise, it was pretty fair; most parts of the battlefield got at least some play.

 

[davidlhsl]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Here you go! I almost didn't get started on this due to munching on sunflowers seeds. I'm trying to improve my "seeder" skills by putting several in my mouth at once, cracking them one at a time in my mouth, then spitting out the shells.

That's way more information than you wanted to know, isn't it?

I have two dungeon sets, so I used the 12 shadow tiles without the holes.

Spoiler Alert!

 

[Scapemage]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Looks great! Can't wait to play on it!

 

[omael]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Last time I did that I ended with bloody gums

This maps looks good, any recomendations in the random glyph department

Here you go! I almost didn't get started on this due to munching on sunflowers seeds. I'm trying to improve my "seeder" skills by putting several in my mouth at once, cracking them one at a time in my mouth, then spitting out the shells.

That's way more information than you wanted to know, isn't it?

I have two dungeon sets, so I used the 12 shadow tiles without the holes.

Spoiler Alert!

 

[Red Eyed Jedi]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

I use these for my random glyph pool:

Spoiler Alert!

Fear gas.
Smilex Bomb.
Time Bomb.
Team Up.
Cosmic Shielding.
Boom Tube.
Experimental Medicine.
Shrink Ray Gun.
Teleportation Belt.
Latverian Life Spell.
Probability manipulator.
Reinforcements.

Total of twelve glyphs, 3 negative effects, 3 permanent, 5 equipment, 1 temporary. I have found this to be a nice random glyph pool, but I put mine face down. If you put one face up you could drop a few off. Like the ones with the negative effects, and they really powerful ones like Probability Manipulator.

 

[omael]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Thanks, i just don't use the bombs, just empty glyphs instead

I use these for my random glyph pool:

Spoiler Alert!

Fear gas.
Smilex Bomb.
Time Bomb.
Team Up.
Cosmic Shielding.
Boom Tube.
Experimental Medicine.
Shrink Ray Gun.
Teleportation Belt.
Latverian Life Spell.
Probability manipulator.
Reinforcements.

Total of twelve glyphs, 3 negative effects, 3 permanent, 5 equipment, 1 temporary. I have found this to be a nice random glyph pool, but I put mine face down. If you put one face up you could drop a few off. Like the ones with the negative effects, and they really powerful ones like Probability Manipulator.

 

[davidlhsl]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

If you opt for a specific glyph on this map, I think the Makluan Matter Rings Glyph would be perfect for this map.

I probably won't get to get a game on this until Thursday night at the earliest, but prelim thoughts: I am wondering whether the lava fields would ever see play. Due to height, the best path from the start zone is to advance along the left (as seen from the respective start zone). The single-hex pathway along the outer edge next to the molten lava would provide protection from knockback into the molten lava.

 

[Margloth]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Nega Bands would be cool too, giving the bearer the opportunity to skip over the lava at the cost of a wound (and losing the Bands afterward).

 

[Taeblewalker]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

If you opt for a specific glyph on this map, I think the Makluan Matter Rings Glyph would be perfect for this map.

I probably won't get to get a game on this until Thursday night at the earliest, but prelim thoughts: I am wondering whether the lava fields would ever see play. Due to height, the best path from the start zone is to advance along the left (as seen from the respective start zone). The single-hex pathway along the outer edge next to the molten lava would provide protection from knockback into the molten lava.

This is a great idea, and one I used when I played on my Sauron's Eyrie map.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Hmm ... once I get Raven and Trigon designed, I could see some real great scenario possibilities for this map ... Love the name.

 

[Griffin]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Johnny, I had no idea this thread existed until just now. When you post a new map thread, will you please post a link to it in this thread?

C3G Map Maker's Discussion Thread

 

[Hahma]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Johnny, I had no idea this thread existed until just now. When you post a new map thread, will you please post a link to it in this thread?

C3G Map Maker's Discussion Thread

I just saw it myself.

 

[davidlhsl]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Here’s the battle!

Team A: Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Human Torch (Ha! I accidentally pulled out the Jim Hammond version. Replaced with Johnny Storm), Thing (1000)
Team B: Kingpin, Absorbing Man, Hush, Elektra, Hired Guns (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Hush’s Obsessive Vendetta placed on Thing. Per my habit, figures placed at back of start zones. Random glyph.
Round 1
A1: Leader = 14. Human Torch flies to top of lava hill.
A2: Thing moves forward.
A3: Mr. Fantastic moves forward.
B: Hush gives Master Motivator turn to Absorbing Man. He decides not to Power Absorb (terrain protection) until he gets low on life. He moves forward.
A1: Leader = 5. Invisible Woman flies forward.
A2: Mr. Fantastic Stretch Walks to height between rock and lava.
B: Hush gives turn to Absorbing Man, who moves next to rock.
A1: Leader = 17. Invisible Woman flies to 3-hex dungeon height.
A2: Human Torch lands next to her.
A3: Mr. Fantastic moves into shadow “pool”.
B: Hush sends Absorbing Man to base of center hill and hopes for initiative. Absorbing Man is now out of LOS from Hush due to rock.
Round 2
A1: Tough break for Team B. Leader = 8. Human Torch lands on glyph. It’s the Glyph of Mysterious Artifact. I hadn’t defined it, so it’s just a dud. Human Torch fired down on Absorbing Man. 2sk vs 4sh.
A2: Mr. Fantastic holds.
B1: Kingpin gives turn to Absorbing Man, and pulls him back behind rock. This will protect him from Human Torch’s Flame On, and allow his team to regroup.
B2: Kingpin moves forward.
A1: Leader = 1 (Yikes!) Mr. Fantastic Stretches next to Invisible Woman on 3-hex knob.
B1: Kingpin sends Hired Guns forward. All approaches to map from start zones have avoided the lava hill with the exception of Human Torch.
B2: Kingpin moves behind Absorbing Man.
A1: Leader = 10. Thing moves forward.
A2: Mr. Fantastic holds.
B: Hush moves forward.
Round 3
B1: Kingpin sends Elektra ahead.
B2: Kingpin holds.
A1: Leader = 6. Thing reaches base of center hill.
A2: Mr. Fantastic holds.
B: Hush takes 2-hex dungeon tile next to lava hill.
A1: Leader = 1 (Wha---?) Mr. Fantastic joins Human Torch on center hill.
B: Hush gives turn to Elektra. She Phantom Walks through her forces and ends next to rock. She’s in front of Absorbing Man. Hey, I’m turtling!!!
A1: Leader = 8. Invisible Woman flies to center hill and is in range to fire down on Elektra. 1sk vs 1sh.
A2: Mr. Fantastic holds.
Round 4
A1: Leader = 6. Thing reaches center hill. The Fantastic Four are King of the Hill! Can Team B knock them down?
A2: Mr. Fantastic holds.
B1: Kingpin gives turn to Absorbing Man. Forget the lava protection, Absorbing Man wants to slam Invisible Woman! He roll 13, and gets 6 Absorbing Markers from Kingpin’s defense. Absorbing Man reaches base of center hill and strikes up at Invisible Woman with +6! 6sk vs 2sh/3sk = 4 wounds (1 left) and 3 knockback spaces. Human Torch is behind her, so they both roll for knockback damage! Invisible Woman = 1 wound = KO! Human Torch = 1 wound (4 left).
B2: Kingpin puffs on his cigar and holds.
A1: Leader = 6. Human Torch moves next to Absorbing Man, then Flame On! No wounds from engagement strike. D20 = 16 = 2 wounds on Absorbing Man (4 left, 4 Absorbing Markers). Human Torch lands on lava knob in center and fires down on Absorbing Man. 4sk vs 2sh = 2 wounds (2 left, 2 Absorbing Markers).
A2: Mr. Fantastic takes place where Invisible Woman was taken down to hold Absorbing Man down at base of center hill. He strikes down at Absorbing Man. 3sk vs 2sh/4sk = 1 wound (1 left).
B1: Kingpin gives turn to Absorbing Man. Absorbing Man removes his Absorbing Markers and tries to Power Absorb Mr. Fantastic’s defense of 5. D20 = 7 = 5 Absorbing Markers. (Note: He’s only engaged with Mr. Fantastic and his held, so Ball and Chain isn’t the best option here.) He strikes up at Mr. Fantastic with +5. 4sk vs 5sh/0sk = 4 knockback spaces. However, Human Torch once again blocks, so both check knockback damage. Mr. Fantastic = 0 wounds. Human Torch = 1 wound (3 left).
B2: Kingpin holds.
A1: Leader = 7. Human Torch lands next to Absorbing Man, then Flame On away, taking 1 engagement strike wound (2 left). D20 = 5 = KO for Absorbing Man!
A2: Mr. Fantastic retreats to 3-hex height nearest his start zone.
B: Hush steps forward on 2-hex tile between rock and lava hill and fires across at Thing with +1 Obsessive Vendetta. 2sk vs 2sh. (Note: He had the Order Marker. I didn’t mess up like I usually do and think he could take bonding turn from Kingpin.)
Round 5
B1: Kingpin gives turn to Hired Guns. Only one is in range to fire, and he fires up at Human Torch with Double Attack. 1sk vs 3sh. 2sk vs 1sh = 1 wound (1 left).
B2: Kingpin holds.
A1: Leader = 20. Human Torch wants to land in a good spot to put his Supernova to maximum use, but Team B is clustered pretty tightly, and the rock is also blocking a good landing spot. Hrm… Supernova does not require clear sight, so he’ll land at base of rock to put Elektra, Hush, and 2 Hired Guns in range. Nova Time = 3sk. That figures. Hired Gun = 2sh = KO! (3 remaining). Hired Gun = 2sh = KO! (2 remaining). Elektra = 1sh = 2 wounds (3 left). Hush = 3sh.
A2: Thing charges forward and lands down in the shadow pool below Hush to get the +1 shadow defense. Thing strikes up at Hush with Human Torch’s 4 wounds for Clobbering Time double attack!!! 4sk vs 2sh/3sk = 2 wounds (3 left) and 1 knockback space. That pulls Hush away from Things second attack!
A3: Mr. Fantastic holds.
B: Hush fires down on Thing with +1 Obsessive Vendetta. Thing gets the Shadow bonus. 4sk vs 2sh = 2 wounds (4 left).
A1: Leader = 20. Human Torch moves next to Hired Gun and Elektra and strikes up at Hired Gun. 2sk vs 2sh.
A2: Thing climbs up next to Hush and strikes with +4 Clobbering Time bonus. 4sk vs 1sh/3sk = 3 wounds = KO!
A3: Mr. Fantastic moves to enter hill, but not on lava knob.
B1: Kingpin gives turn to Elektra, who strikes down at Human Torch (Deadly Barrage is 50% of no wound, so the attack is better). 4sk vs 2sh = 2 wounds = KO!
B2: Kingpin climbs next to Thing and strikes. 3sk vs 3sh.
A1: Leader = 3. Mr. Fantastic steps next to Elektra and strikes up at her. 1sk vs 2sh/4sk.
Round 6
B1: Kingpin gives turn to Hired Guns, who fire down on Mr. Fantastic. 4sk vs 1sh = 3 wounds (2 left). 3sk vs 2sh = 1 wound (1 left). 2sk vs 2sh. 3sk vs 4sh. Whew!
B2: Kingpin strikes Thing. 4sk vs 2sh = 2 wounds (2 left).
A1: Leader = 12. Thing steps down off 2-hex tile to be engaged with Elektra, a Hired Gun, and Kingpin. That way, his two attacks due to Mr. Fantastic’s 4 wounds will prevent knockback from preventing a strike on another figure. He strikes up at Kingpin. 5sk vs 3sh/4sk = 2 wounds (3 left) and 1 knockback space. Thing strikes Elektra. 2sk vs 2sh/2sk. This is my sad face:  Thing’s Clobbering Time is more like Slobbering Time.
A2: Mr. Fantastic Stretch Walks to 2-hex space above and next to Thing and strikes down at Elektra. 2sk vs 2sh.
B1: Kingpin gives turn to Hired Guns. The first moves up next to Mr. Fantastic while remaining engaged with Thing. He strikes at Mr. Fantastic. 0sk. 2sk vs 3sh. The second fires up at Mr. Fantastic. 3sk vs 1sh = 2 wounds = KO! He can fire his second attack on Thing. 1sk vs 2sh.
B2: Kingpin engages Thing and attacks. 3sk vs 1sh = 2 wounds = KO!

Survivors: Kingpin (2 wounds), Elektra (2 wounds), Hired Guns (2 remaining)

Rather than comment, I'll step aside and let the map department discuss.

 

[johnny139]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

Hmm, well, it seemed pretty balanced - poor luck on the Four's side leads to a fair victory from the Kingpin - but I'm a tad concerned that the lava ridges didn't get much play. Though I imagine an E-Glyph flying around would probably give them a bit more play.

Cool to see that even the shadow pools got some use. That's always nice.

 

[Hahma]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

It's only one game, so there's plenty of time for the whole map to get used. Lava is scary anyway.

And shadow tiles are always nice. On HYDRA Base Gehenna map, there is shadow in the center of two big structures, so if you want to cross through the center, if you are going to be at height disadvantage from a ranged unit on a structure, you might as well be on a shadow tile to get the extra defense. They always come in handy.

Nice report David.

 

[A3n]

Re: The Book of Dark Dimension (Design Phase)

What about if the 24 hexers were moved a little more behind the lava field mound like this:

hsc file.