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Re: The Book of Cybermen (VOTE for Public Playtesting)
C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Cybermen
Army Test 1
Map: Island Plane Crash (Glyph of Wannok)
Units: Team 1 (1,100): Cybermen @140 x3 (420), Ultron (680) Team 2 (1,100): Cosmic Boy (260), Mon-El (390), Timber Wolf (260), Triplicate Girl (190)
Pre-game thoughts: A decently cheap Cyborg squad obviously makes a good pairing with Ultron, but they also get to stack OM removal powers which is a nice bonus.
Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!
Round 1: T1 wins initiative
-Timber Wolf inflicts 2 wounds on Ultron
-A Cyberman gets a lucky hit in on Timber Wolf
-Cosmic Boy inflicts a wound on Ultron
Round 2: T1 wins initiative
-A Cyberman inflicts a wound on Timber Wolf
-Cos tosses Ultron, inflicting a wound
-Mon-El inflicts a wound on Ultron with an inspirational punch
-Ultron takes an LEA from Mon-El
-Ultron inflicts a wound on Cosmic Boy with his Encephalo Ray
-Mon-El inflicts a wound on Ultron
Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-A Cyberman stomps his way onto the Glyph of Wannok
-A Cyberman inflicts a wound on Cos
-Ultron removes the X OM from Cos, negating the Legion’s bonding for the round
-Ultron inflicts a wound on Cosmic Boy
-A Cyberman uses the Glyph of Wannok to inflict a wound on Mon-El
Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-Mon-El inflicts 2 wounds on Ultron
-Timber Wolf takes out Ultron
-T1 had all their OMs for the round on Ultron. Critical Malfunction.
-Triplicate Girl (TG) takes out the Cyberman that was standing on the Glyph
-TG kills another Cyberman
-Cos shreds a Cyberman
Round 5: T2 wins initiative
-Mon-El takes out a Cyberman
-Timber Wolf slashes through 2 Cybermen
-Cos takes out another Cyberman
Round 6: T1 wins initiative
-Cos tosses the last two Cybermen, destroying them
Special power usages:
Normal attack: 3 wounds inflicted (2 on Timber Wolf, 1 on Cosmic Boy)
Electro-Touch: 0 OMs removed
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Cosmic Boy (3/4 wounds), Mon-El (1/7 wounds), Timber WOlf (0/5 wounds), Triplicate Girl (3 figures)
Post-game thoughts: Well, the Legion decided to be good today. I do think Ultron’s inherent swinginess had a lot to do with this massive loss. If he had gotten off just 1 Program Transmission I think that would’ve made a considerable difference. However, the Cybermen weren’t great themselves, not really showing the capacity to break through even the mid-level Legionnaires.
Army Test 2
Map: Island Plane Crash (Glyph of Wannok)
Units: Team 1 (1,000): Cybermen @130 x2 (260), Captain Marvel (Carol) (370), Livewire (230), Laserbeak (140) Team 2 (1,000): Captain America (240), Bucky (60), Wolverine (280), Colossus (260), Wild Child (160)
Pre-game thoughts: Obvious Livewire pairing, providing her a decent way to get some Technopathic shots in for fairly cheap. Also some potential interplay with Laserbeak looking at OMs and the Cybermen removing them, but that seems fairly minor.
Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!
Round 1: T2 wins initiative
-Troops advance
Round 2: T2 wins initiative
-A Cyberman stomps onto the Glyph of Wannok
-A Cyberman shoots at Wild Child, inflicting 1 wound
-Colossus throws Logan at Carol, inflicting a wound on her
-Wild Child inflicts a wound on Carol, but she counters him with a wound of her own
-Carol takes a LEA from Logan
-Carol inflicts 2 wounds on Wild Child
-Logan slices Carol, inflicting 2 wounds
-Carol takes out Wild Child and puts 3 wounds on Logan
-A Cyberman uses the GLyph of Wannok to inflict a wound on Logan
Round 3: T2 wins initiative
-Bucky mows down 2 Cybermen with his Machine Gun, including the one on the Glyph
-Carol goes all out, inflicting 2 wounds on Logan
-Logan takes out Carol and Laserbeak
-Livewire uses a Cyberman to inflict a wound on Wolverine
Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-A Cyberman inflicts a wound on Bucky
-Wolverine slices up 2 Cybermen
-Logan inflicts 3 wounds on Livewire
-Livewire uses a Cyberman to inflict a wound on Wolverine
Round 5: T1 wins initiative
-Bucky bashes a Cyberman
Livewire uses a Cyberman to inflict a wound on Wolverine
-Logan takes out Livewire
-The last Cyberman removes OM3 from Logan
Round 6: T2 wins initiative
-Cap takes out the last Cyberman
Special power usages:
Normal attack: 2 wounds inflicted (1 on Wild Child, 1 on Bucky)
Electro-Touch: 1 OMs removed (1 from Wolverine)
Technopathic Control SA: 3 wounds inflicted through a Cyberman (3 on Wolverine)
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Captain America (0/5 wounds), Bucky (1/4 wounds), Wolverine (1/6 wounds), Colossus (0/6 wounds)
Post-game thoughts: Probably worth noting that Team 2 won 5/6 initiative rolls. I should probably start noting that, since it feels like every game I play has a heavy lean like that.
Another rough one for Team Cyber, without a doubt. When Bucky is taking a ton of you out, you know there’s something wrong. They just don’t feel like an effective fighting force, as a squad with fairly low move, attack, and no bonding.
I do think Island Plane Crash isn’t the optimal map for them, since it favors mobilizing early and speedily.
Army Test 3
Map: Island Plane Crash (Glyph of Wannok)
Units: Team 1 (1,000): Cybermen @130 x2 (260), Iron Patriot (290), Iron Man (Avengers) (270), Harley Quinn (180) Team 2 (1,000): Captain America (240), Bucky (60), Wolverine (280), Colossus (260), Wild Child (160)
Pre-game thoughts: Alright, I upped their attack to 4 as they just weren’t feeling effective. Going to try a strategy where I send the Unique Heroes out as a first wave, but use Norman’s leadership to hopefully advance the Cybermen up as a second wave.
Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!
Round 1: T1 wins initiative
-Tony charges across the battlefield, launching a missile that puts 1 wound each on Wild Child and Wolverine
-Colossus chucks Logan at Tony, inflicting 1 wound
-Wild Child slashes at Tony, inflicting 1 wound
-Norman blasts Logan, inflicting 4 wounds
-Tony also blasts Logan, inflicting another wound
-Logan takes out Tony
-Logan slices Harley, inflicting 1 wound
-Wild Child inflicts a wound on Norman
Round 2: T1 wins initiative
-Norman inflicts 3 wounds on Wild Child
-Harley takes out Logan
-Norman takes out Wild Child
-T2 had OM2 on Logan, so they lose a turn
-Norman blasts Bucky, inflicting 2 wounds
-Colossus inflicts a wound on Harley
Round 3: T2 wins initiative
-Norman shoots at Bucky, inflicting a wound
-Colossus takes out Harley
-Norman kills Bucky
-Norman inflicts 2 wounds on Cap
-Colossus takes out a Cyberman
-T1 had OM3 on Harley, so they lose a turn
Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-A Cyberman removes the 3 OM from Colossus
-Colossus takes out a Cyberman
-The Cybermen inflict 2 wounds on Colossus
-A Cyberman uses the Glyph of Wannok to inflict a wound on Colossus
Round 5: T2 wins initiative
-The Cybermen removes OM2 and OM3 from Colossus
-A Cyberman uses the Glyph of Wannok to inflict a wound on Colossus
Round 6: T1 wins initiative
-Cap throws his shield, inflicting a wound on Norman and taking out 2 Cybermen
-A Cyberman inflicts 2 wounds on Cap
-Cap decapitates a Cyberman
Round 7: T1 wins initiative
-The last Cyberman takes out Cap
-T2 had OM1 on Cap, so they lose a turn
-Colossus takes out the last Cyberman
-Colossus takes out Norman
Special power usages:
Normal attack: 4 wounds inflicted (1 on Colossus, 3 on Captain America)
Electro-Touch: 3 OMs removed (3 from Colossus)
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Colossus (4/6 wounds)
Post-game thoughts: While this was a narrow loss, that was primarily because I accidentally put two guys with auto-shields up against weaker squaddies. Up against guys with lower defense, I think this would’ve been a big win. I think the attack boost took Electro-Touch from not very effective to super effective, and I could easily see them draining a whole round’s worth of OMs when going up against cheap Rogues or Sidekicks.
Army Test 4
Map: Island Plane Crash (Glyph of Wannok)
Units: Team 1 (1,000): Cybermen @130 x2 (260), Iron Patriot (290), Iron Man (Avengers) (270), Harley Quinn (180) Team 2 (1,000): Pinhead (335), Freddy Krueger (175), Jason Voorhees (175), Michael Myers (135), Leatherface (95), Chucky (85)
Pre-game thoughts: I think these two teams will have a nice interplay. Slashers have lots of unblockables to pierce through the higher defense of Team 1, but the Cybermen have lots of low-defense targets for Electro-Touch as well. Tony is Michael’s Victim
Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!
Round 1: T1 wins initiative
-Tony gets going right out of the gate, inflicting 4 wounds on Michael
-Jason strikes back, inflicting 3 wounds on Tony
-Norman inflicts 2 wounds on Leatherface
-Harley takes out Leatherface...for now
Round 2: T1 wins initiative
-Tony inflicts 4 wounds on Jason, but dies to Jason’s Relentless Assault
-Norman is now Michael’s Victim
-Freddy materializes in the real world
-Norman blasts Chucky, inflicting 2 wounds
-Harley inflicts 2 wounds on Freddy and removes OM3 with her Pop Gun
-Chucky stabs Freddy, inflicting a wound
-Chucky inflicts a wound on Norman
-Leatherface returns from the dead
Round 3: T2 wins initiative
-Chucky stabs Norman twice, inflicting 2 wounds
-Norman inflicts a wound on Freddy
-Leatherface inflicts a wound on Norman, but also a wound on himself
-Leatherface takes out Norman, but inflicts a wound on himself as well
-Harley is now Michael’s Victim
-Jason inflicts a wound on Harley
-T2 had OM3 on Norman, so they lose a turn
Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-Jason moves to block the Cybermen, taking one out
-Harley inflicts a wound on Freddy and removes OM2 with her Pop Gun
-A Cyberman inflicts a wound on Freddy
-Another Cyberman takes out Jason
-Leatherface inflicts a wound on Harley, but takes himself out in the process
-A Cyberman inflicts a wound on Freddy
-A Cyberman inflicts 2 wounds on Pinhead
-A Cyberman destroys Michael with the Glyph of Wannok
Round 5: T1 wins initiative
-Michael returns
-Freddy takes out a Cyberman
-A Cyberman inflicts a wound on Chucky
-Leatherface returns
-Michael takes out Harley
-Freddy takes out a Cyberman and returns to his card
-A Cyberman takes out Chucky
-Jason returns
Round 6: T1 wins initiative
-A Cyberman inflicts a wound on Pinhead
-A Cyberman inflicts 2 wounds on Michael
-Jason takes out a Cyberman with his Relentless Assault
-Leatherface takes out a Cyberman but inflicts a wound on himself
-Chucky returns
-Chucky stabs the last Cyberman to death
Special power usages:
Normal attack: 11 wounds inflicted (2 on Freddy, 2 on Jason, 3 on Pinhead, 2 on Chucky, 2 on Michael)
Electro-Touch: 0 OMs removed/1 Attempts
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Pinhead (3/6 wounds), Freddy Krueger (0/6 wounds), Michael Myers (2/5 wounds), Jason Voorhees (0/6 wounds), Leatherface (0/4 wounds), Chucky (0/4 wounds)
Post-game thoughts: This was a pretty intense match, with Harley constantly trying to take out Pinhead and getting blocked every turn by the Slashers.
The Slashers managed to adapt to Team 1’s OM removal powers pretty well, just by hiding Freddy away as much as possible. Harley’s Pop Gun was a much more effective OM remover than Electro-Touch, but obviously in an ideal situation, the Cybermen get to use theirs 3 times per turn to Harley’s 1.
A lot of wounds dealt by the Cybermen here, but taking a lot of hits is kind of the whole deal for the Slashes, so that doesn't really concern me at all.
THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: They really struggled when their attack was stuck at 3, but felt much more worth it at 4. Iron Patriot felt like the best ally for them at the moment because of the mass mobilization, so that’s definitely an effect I’ll be looking to mimic on a future Cyber unit.
GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: They’re fun, but definitely a bit basic. Which is fine by me, cause the plan here is to have them be a sort of combo deal, either with the Cyber-Converter or whatever wacky Invader synergy we put together.
If it's too much of an inconvenience (like having to build a new physical map), don't worry, but it would be nice to see how they feel on a map with lots of LoS blockers like Sewer Labyrinth.
I had the most success with bringing ~2 squads with Iron Patriot. Might be worth trying either the Livewire or Ultron combos again as well, since the Cybers have gotten more effective since those pairings were tested.
Army Test
Map: Country Road
Units: Iron Patriot(290) Livewire(230) Captain America(240) Cybermen(120) Cybermen(120) (1000) VS Darkseid(380) Yellow Lantern Sinestro(330) Solomon Grundy(290)(1000)
Spoiler Alert!
Start of the Game
Capt. assigns White Markers on Iron Patriot and Livewire Round 1 Chaotic Leadership activates(Won)-Unit Movement
Movement Phase Livewire attacks Sinestro for 1 Wound Round 2 Chaotic Leadership activates(Won)-Unit Movement Cybermen attack Sinestro for 1 wound, Electro Touch activates(16) Livewire attacks Sinestro for 1 Wound Round 3 Chaotic Leadership activates(Loss)-Order Markers rearranged Sinestro attacks Livewire with Force of Fear for 3 Wounds Capt attacks Solomon for 1 Wounds and Sinestro with Shield Throw, Yellow Power Shield activated. Darkseid attacks Patriot for 3 Wounds Patriot attacks Darkseid for 3 Wounds Solomon destroys 1 of 6 Cybermen Patriot attacks Darkseid for 1 Wound Round 4 Chaotic Leadership activates(Win)-Unit Movement Cybermen attacks Sinestro for 1 Wound-Electro Touch does not activate(4) Cybermen attack Solomon for 1 Wounds-Electro Touch does not activate(10) Sinestro destroys Livewire Patriot attacks Darkseid for 1 Wound Darkseid attacks Patriot for 2 Wounds Solomon destroys 2 of 6 Cybermen Round 5 Chaotic Leadership activates(Loss)-Order Markers rearranged Cybermen attack Solomon for 1 Wound-Electro Touch Activates(17) Darkseid destroys Patriot Round 6 Sinestro destroys 3 of 6 Cybermen Darkseid attacks Capt for 1 Wound and destroys him with Omega Effect(20) Solomon destroys 4 of 6 Cybermen Round 7 Cybermen destroy Sinestro Darkseid destroys 5 of 6 Cybermen Solomon destroys 6 of 6 Cybermen
The Electro-Touch 16 ability activated four times but was only successful twice.
Army Test
Map: Country Road
Units: Ultron(680) Ultron Drone(100) Ultron Drone(100) Cybermen(120) (1000) VS Starlord(250) Nova Prime(380) Quasar(370) (1000)
Spoiler Alert!
Round 1
Movement Phase Round 2 Quasar attacks Ultron Drone for 1 Wound Cybermen attack Nova Prime for 2 Wounds-Electro Touch activates(17) ybermen attacks Nova Prime for 1 Wound-Electro Touch activates(19) Cybermen attacks Nova Prime for 1 Wound-Electro Touch does not activate(11) Ultron destroys Nova Prime Starlord destroys 1 of 3 Cybermen Round 3 Quasar attacks Ultron for 3 Wounds Cybermen attacks Quasar for 1 Wound-Electro Touch activates(16) Ultron attacks Quasar for 2 Wounds Ultron attacks Quasar for 1 Wound Round 4 Cybermen destroys Quasar Ultron attacks Starlord for 3 Wounds Ultron attacks Starlord for 1 Wound Starlord attacks Ultron for 2 Wounds Round 5 Cybermen attacks Starlord for 1 Wound-Electro Touch does not activate(1) Cybermen destroy Starlord
The Electro-Touch 16 ability activated five times and was successful on three attacks
THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
I feel that the unit cost is reasonable. Useful unit to add into an army to keep in the back lines and attack the enemy in order to remove their Markers, as was seen in the second test. The opposing army did not stand much of a chance once their turns were taken away. I would suggest teaming them up with Units that subtract enemy defense dice.
GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT:
In my opinion, I feel you could take a little away from defense and add to attack, Fortunately rolls were in favor sometimes with the Cybermen. During the first test it was rather difficult to at least get a single wound on a target. However as previously mentioned in above thoughts, pairing with units that subtract from opponents defense could prove rather beneficial in a battle.
I'm a moron who sent Zaki the Cybermen with 3 Attack instead of 4. So not sure these tests are worth a lot. Still, pretty strong showing for being a whole attack die lower. Maybe a bump back up to 130 or a raise of the Electro-Touch roll?
I felt they were perfectly fine when I played the same version that Zaki did but at 4 attack. The ceiling to potentially remove up to 3 OMs in a single turn is obviously devastating, but they're slow, fragile, and need to inflict a wound and score a 16+ to do it.
Zaki also got incredibly lucky too. In game 2, a single 3-figure squad of 3 attack units managed to inflict 4 wounds on Nova Prime, 2 wound on Quasar, and 2 wounds on Star-Lord, and also triggered the Electro-Touch (16+ D20 roll) on 3/5 attempts.
It works similar to the Civilians or the Zombies from Classic Scape. Move with any 3, attack with any 3.
There were worries about such a generic power having a specific Cyberman name though, so I added a slight synergy hook where you could also use the power to attack with any future Common Cyber designs. (None of which will be more powerful than this one, most likely.)
Think the 2nd power needs to be reworded now that I know the intent. Switching from Cybermen to a long winded description of the Cybermen is just confusing for a possible synergy hook that may not ever come. Better to put that synergy on the future card when it gets made.
CYBER LEGION
When taking a turn with the Cybermen, after moving 3 Cybermen, you may attack with any 3 Cybermen you control.
Yeah, I'm pretty sold on the mechanics and it doesn't seem like anyone else has found it confusing. Anyone have suggestions to add clarity without changing the mechanic?
CYBER LEGION
When taking a turn with the Cybermen, after moving 3 Cybermen, you may attack with any 3 Cybermen you control. Order Markers cannot be removed from this card.
What if we just did something like this? Basically trinket text but also sells the theme of a legion mind.
I like DW baddies being affected by OM removal whammies and stuff, just cause that feel like the kind of gimmick that future Doctors might have.
I like the Emotionless Cyborgs hook because one of the additional Cyber designs I'd actually seriously be considering would be Cybermats, which are tiny little scouts. So the idea would be that you send the Cybermats out first, then attack with them while moving the Cybermen up.
Just finally getting these games set up, so revisiting the wording thing on Cyber Legion. I didn't find it confusing, but I knew the intent from the start.
I do think it's worth keeping the synergy hook there, since it's pretty light touch and it'd be difficult to work that effect in cleanly on a future card, but... can't hurt to make the thing more explicit. Got the space here. Just something like:
Instead of attacking with the Cybermen you moved this turn, you may attack with any 3 Emotionless Cyborgs you control.
Honestly, I'd probably lift the "Common" restriction, unless you think we really need it. We can always just not call Uniques Emotionless if they shouldn't be part of it. (Hell, you could probably drop the Cyborg part, but you'd just have to say "Emotionless figure" anyway)
Yeah, I suppose we could drop the Common part. There are definitely more powerful types of Cybermen, but I (a) don't really have any desire to do them in the foreseeable future and (b) don't really think most of them would have huge offensive firepower, anyways. Maybe a rare attack of 5 or 6, but I don't think that's shattering this power in a way that can't be adjusted for.
Army Test
Map: X Marks the Spot (w/ added trees per Nobody's request)
Units: Cybermen x3 (360), Iron Patriot, Robot, Spider-Girl (1000) VS X-Men (1000)
Spoiler Alert!
Damage Dealt: They pulled their weight, wounded/killed: Iceman, Beast and Cyclops
Electro-Touch: They never got engaged with Professor X before they got cleaned up by Beast and Cyclops so this never really mattered.
Cyber Legion: Always useful power.
Prof X sent out Beast and Cyclops first to deal with the Cybermen swarm and they did a pretty good job of clearing them out and making them spread out in weird ways as much as they could. Angel kept Professor X out of harms way for this battle and the Cybermen got wittled down. Being able to move a few new ones up while attacking with the Cybermen already in battle here was great. Really made it feel like an endless wave for the X-Men. Having their range limited by the trees was annoying, but it also affected Iceman, Jean and Cyclops a good bit as well so it was pretty close to a wash in that regard.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Angel with 2 wounds, Professor X with no wounds and Jean Grey with 3 wounds.
Army Test
Map: X Marks the Spot (w/ added trees per Nobody's request)
Units: Cybermen x2 (240), Ultron and Mechanical Contructs x2 (1000) VS Fantastic 4 (1000)
Spoiler Alert!
Damage Dealt: 2 wounds to Torch with LEAs
Electro-Touch: They couldn't get through Mr Fantastic's defense.
Cyber Legion: Always useful power.
The trees really helped the Fantastic 4 here as they were able to pod up and keep Ultron away from Invisible Woman. Torch killed 5 Cybermen with his Flame On throughout the game so they didn't have much impact but Ultron was the main focus here anyways and they were mostly just fodder for him. Once Ultron finally worked through Mister Fantastic, the rest of the Fan 4 fell to him pretty quickly.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Ultron with 3 wounds (after healing 4 wounds replacing the last Cyberman) and 2 Mech Constructs.
THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: They felt good, definitely felt like the Cybermen with the front line attacking and the replacements advancing from the start zone. Didn't feel too great with Ultron, but they're a bit pricy for you to choose them for Program Transmission if you have other options in play like the Mechs or an enemy figure you wounded. Playing them against OM hubs is interesting, in the X-Men's case they hardly get a chance to engage the Prof and try to remove OMs, and in the Fan 4's case it's hard to get past Mister Fantastic's defense, but it would have been devastating if they had been able to.
Thanks, Tickle! Out of interest, did the LOS blockers help allow them to advance any easier?
I think 120 is good for them after seeing this. 1 win, 1 loss, but the win didn’t seem to have that much to do with the Cybermen themselves, just Ultron being Ultron. Still will hold out for Ronin’s tests, but I’m feeling pretty good here.
Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Cybermen x2 (260), Iron Patriot, Venom (Gargan), Mystique (I) (960) vs Martian Manhunter (I), Black Canary (I), Green Arrow (Ollie), Robin (Dick), Speedy (Roy), Batgirl (Cassie) (960)
Spoiler Alert!
Black Canary really bulldozed Venom in this one, and it didn't take her and Robin long to bring Norman down, after that. The Cybermen managed to bring Canary down at the start of a round and kill a couple OMs with her, though, which gave them a chance to do some damage. They had a hard time putting a dent in Martian Manhunter, but otherwise did really well for themselves as attackers.
Unit Summary:
Damage Done (Normal Attack): 3 wounds to Black Canary in 4 attacks (destroyed), 3 wounds to Speedy in 2 attacks (destroyed), 2 wounds to Martian Manhunter in 7 attacks, 3 wounds to Green Arrow in 3 attacks (destroyed), 0 wounds to Batgirl in 1 attack
Electro-Touch: 2 rolls, 1 success. Removed an OM from Canary, but it didn't matter, because they downed her before the OM came up.
Cyber Legion: Cyber Legion: used 2 times to mobilize non-attacking Cybermen
Damage Taken: 1 destroyed by Iron Patriot in 1 attack, 3 destroyed by Martian Manhunter in 4 attacks, 1 destroyed by Batgirl's Defensive Premonition
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Martian Manhunter with 3 Life, Robin with 1 Life, Batgirl with full Life
Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Cybermen x3 (390), Ultron (1070) vs Professor X, Jean Grey, Angel (Warren), Armor, Jubilee, Blink, Cable (1070)
Spoiler Alert!
The strategy here was essentially the same as in the last one: Ultron kicks the door down, Cybermen clean up. Ultron, unfortunately, was not really up to kicking. He had a few turns break bad; he did get some wounds in on Professor X and Cable, but Angel and Jean managed to force him to split his focus, and he didn't actually off a single X-Man. He also never hit his Program Transmission roll.
The Cybermen, then, were left with "all the X-Men" as their clean-up project. They did okay for themselves, all things considered, but Angel + Cable was just too strong a power combo for them to get through.
Unit Summary:
Damage Done (Normal Attack): 1 wound to Professor X in 1 attack (destroyed), 2 wounds to Jean in 3 attacks, 0 wounds to Blink in 1 attack, 0 wounds to Cable in 4 attacks, 4 wounds to Jubilee in 3 attacks (destroyed), 1 wound to Angel in 1 attack, 1 wound to Armor in 1 attack
Electro-Touch: 1 roll, 1 success. Removed an OM from Jean.
Cyber Legion: used several times to mobilize non-attacking Cybermen.
Damage Taken: 1 destroyed by Jean in 1 attack, 6 destroyed by Cable in 8 attacks, 0 destroyed by Jubilee in 2 special attacks, 1 destroyed by Armor in 2 attacks, 1 destroyed by Blink in 1 attack
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Blink with full Life, Angel with 3 Life, Cable with 2 Life, Jean with 2 Life, Armor with 1 Life
THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: They feel like they can be pretty strong as a clean-up squad, but the bulk of their army let them down both times in this one. They're bringing a lot of attack power relative to their points, and they have the potential to bulldoze low/mid-level guys, but they're up against C3G being rough on squads in general.
They're definitely fun to play, though. Cool movement dynamics.
I do think Ultron’s inherent swinginess had a lot to do with this massive loss. If he had gotten off just 1 Program Transmission I think that would’ve made a considerable difference. However, the Cybermen weren’t great themselves, not really showing the capacity to break through even the mid-level Legionnaires.
So not sure these tests are worth a lot. Still, pretty strong showing for being a whole attack die lower. Maybe a bump back up to 130 or a raise of the Electro-Touch roll?