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The Book of Cable

Margloth

More Interesting Than He Actually Is
The Book of Cable

C3G MARVEL WAVE 16
XTINCTION AGENDA


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Comic PDF

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Mini PDF

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Mutant Mayhem set.
Its model number and name are #073-074 / Cable.
Its model number and name are #075 / Soldier X.
Its model number and name are #213 / Nathaniel Summers.
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Character Bio - Born the son of Scott Summers (aka Cyclops) and Madelyne Pryor (the clone of Jean Grey), Nathan Summers was sent into the future to be cared by the Askani after he was infected with the Techno Organic Virus by Apocalypse. The Askani taught Cable to control the infection using enhanced meditation with his powers of Telepathy and Telekinesis.

Because he is constantly keeping the virus from taking over his body with his considerable Telekinetic abilities, he is unable to use those powers for any other purposes and is forced to rely on his years of combat experience and training to survive. He is helped by the fact that he has allowed the Techno Organic Virus to enter his marrow and parts of the right side of his body, greatly enhancing his strength and durability and providing him with a bionic eye with capabilities far beyond those of an average human.

Cable's main objectives in life are combatting the forces of his clone Stryfe and his Mutant Liberation Front, Apocalypse, and protecting the mutant infant Hope Summers. To this end, he often leads teams of mercenaries, including the Six Pack, and has a long-standing affiliation with Deadpool.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Synergy Benefits Offered:
  • Cable may move Mercenaries with his Mercenary Field Commander special power. Current Mercenaries.
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-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-

Immunities:Benefits:Weaknesses:_________________________________________________________________

-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
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-Heroscapers Community Contributions-
 
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Re: The Book of Cable - Design Phase

NAME = CABLE
SECRET IDENTITY = NATE SUMMERS

SPECIES = MUTANT
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TELEPATH
PERSONALITY = DISCIPLINED

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 7
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 275


MERCENARY FIELD COMMANDER
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, instead of moving Cable, you may rearrange any unrevealed Order Markers on Army Cards you control that are in play and immediately move any Mercenary you control within 8 clear sight spaces of Cable up to 4 spaces.

DOUBLE ATTACK
When Cable attacks, he may attack one additional time.

SIGHTING
When Cable is attacking with a height advantage, he rolls an additional attack die.

SUPER STRENGTH
 
Re: The Book of Cable - Design Phase

Don't forget to post a link in the cave. ;)
 
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A wound to move someone 3 spaces is rarely gonna be worth it.
 
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MFC sounds like a Cyclops combination.

Like the LT power. Throw friendly Blob adjacent to opponent's figures. :up:
If the wound is an issue, make it a d20 roll. Is it thematic that he is weakened from using his power?

SIGHTING sounds redundant - he already gets an additional attack die.

How about more like ADAPTIVE CAMOUFLAGE in reverse -

SIGHTING
For each attack die Cable receives from height advantage when attacking a non-adjacent figure, he receives one additional attack die.
 
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Looks good Margloth. I don't know the character so some of the following might be due to this ignorance.

Does he deserve a defense of 6 & life of 5?

MERCENARY FIELD COMMANDER :up: love this power. How many mercenaries do we have or will have?

LIMITED TELEKINESIS, so does he (in the comics) become wounded or severely exhausted/fatigued when he uses this power or are you just trying to justify the usefulness of the power by adding the wounding detriment?
Also can that space, 3 spaces away, be 50 levels higher than his original position?

SIGHTING, :up: power looks fine, although it seems familiar - do we have another design with this power? I'm not loving this power name though, it doesn't really tell me why he is getting +2 for height advantage.
 
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Sighting is a power from an official card. The Microcorp Agents I believe.
 
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SIGHTING is an official power guys. :p

:ninja: and :word:
 
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See how long it's been since I played Classic.
See what this forum has done to me! See, see!

Another instance of less-than-optimal wording. :smile:
 
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Looks good Margloth. I don't know the character so some of the following might be due to this ignorance.

Does he deserve a defense of 6 & life of 5?
Yes. He is one tough SOB.
MERCENARY FIELD COMMANDER :up: love this power. How many mercenaries do we have or will have?
I believe this is meant to tie him to Deadpool, whom he has ALOT of history with.
LIMITED TELEKINESIS, so does he (in the comics) become wounded or severely exhausted/fatigued when he uses this power or are you just trying to justify the usefulness of the power by adding the wounding detriment?
Yes, because he is constantly using his Telekinesis to fight off the Techno-organic Virus he was infected with shortly after birth. So anytime he uses it, the Virus gains a little ground.
Also can that space, 3 spaces away, be 50 levels higher than his original position?
Seems Ok, because we haven't worried about this with other Telekinetics.

SIGHTING, :up: power looks fine, although it seems familiar - do we have another design with this power? I'm not loving this power name though, it doesn't really tell me why he is getting +2 for height advantage.
I'd have to say from the Techno-enhanced eye and his own experience.
 
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I don't know, I like the official wording. It is very streamlined and though it sounds redundant at first, it quickly reveals itself. The MicroCorp are one of my all time favorite units.
 
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Don't forget to post a link in the cave. ;)
Done. Thank you! :up:

A wound to move someone 3 spaces is rarely gonna be worth it.
I'll explain the thematic reason later, but given that he gets to do it after he moves (potentially bringing his move to 8 ) and he can grab height with hit or send an opponent to lower ground, with Sighting he'll definitely want to use it to set himself up at least once.
MFC sounds like a Cyclops combination.

Like the LT power. Throw friendly Blob adjacent to opponent's figures. :up:
If the wound is an issue, make it a d20 roll. Is it thematic that he is weakened from using his power?

SIGHTING sounds redundant - he already gets an additional attack die.

How about more like ADAPTIVE CAMOUFLAGE in reverse -

SIGHTING
For each attack die Cable receives from height advantage when attacking a non-adjacent figure, he receives one additional attack die.
Sighting is a power from Classic Microcorp Agents. I copied it (and its ugly verbage) verbatim. :lol:

Looks good Margloth. I don't know the character so some of the following might be due to this ignorance.

Does he deserve a defense of 6 & life of 5?

MERCENARY FIELD COMMANDER :up: love this power. How many mercenaries do we have or will have?

LIMITED TELEKINESIS, so does he (in the comics) become wounded or severely exhausted/fatigued when he uses this power or are you just trying to justify the usefulness of the power by adding the wounding detriment?
Also can that space, 3 spaces away, be 50 levels higher than his original position?

SIGHTING, :up: power looks fine, although it seems familiar - do we have another design with this power? I'm not loving this power name though, it doesn't really tell me why he is getting +2 for height advantage.

Well, he's pretty tough, and a consumate soldier. He's from the future, and has been fighting wars for years. He's also suffering from a Techno Organic Virus (more on that later) that is slowly eating away his organic material and replacing it with cybernetic parts, so he's definitely stronger than your average human.

Right now Deadpool and the DC character Deadpool's based on (his name's escaping me) come to mind (well, kind of, apparently :lol: )

Cable is the son of Cyclops and a clone of Jean Grey. Technically, he's just as powerful as Jean, but is limited in his ability because he's using most of his Telekinetic ability to keep the Techno Organic Virus in check in his body... so he really has limited Telekinetic ability because of it. He can use the ability, but when he does, the Techno Organic Virus takes over a little more of his body (and if it ever takes over completely, he'll die). Hence the wound.

EDIT: Apparently Spidey totally :ninja: 'd me. :lol:

EDIT no. 2: The DC Mercenary is Deathstroke.
 
Re: The Book of Cable - Design Phase

LIMITED TELEKINESIS
After moving and before attacking, you may place a Wound Marker on this card to choose Cable or a small or medium figure within 3 clear sight spaces of Cable. Place the chosen figure within 3 spaces of its original placement. Chosen figures do not take any leaving engagement attacks.

Personally, I don't need this power. He doesn't really throw people around in the comics, so it is off IMO. I would rather his class be Telepath (to represent jean), then his Field Commander power stay (to represent Cyclops), then give him a third "Shoot fire, Guns, Blast" type of power to replace the one above and represent his arsenal. Heck, even a grenade would be good here IMO.
 
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What about a BODY SLIDE power? It is one of his more Iconic abilities. (His future version of Teleportation.)
 
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I'd rather see you roll one combat die for possible damage than an auto wound for Limited Telekinesis. I just can't see myself using it as is. Also seems like you'd want to be able to damage the figure you throw to make it worthwhile ... so I'm iffy on this one for sure. Griff's suggestion might be the way to go if you can get a pretty straightforward one there.

Heck, maybe just double attack?

I like the other powers and they make sense and reveal his thematic connections nicely.
 
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Double Attack is very useful, especially on this guy. :ponder:
 
Re: The Book of Cable - Design Phase

LIMITED TELEKINESIS
After moving and before attacking, you may place a Wound Marker on this card to choose Cable or a small or medium figure within 3 clear sight spaces of Cable. Place the chosen figure within 3 spaces of its original placement. Chosen figures do not take any leaving engagement attacks.
Personally, I don't need this power. He doesn't really throw people around in the comics, so it is off IMO. I would rather his class be Telepath (to represent jean), then his Field Commander power stay (to represent Cyclops), then give him a third "Shoot fire, Guns, Blast" type of power to replace the one above and represent his arsenal. Heck, even a grenade would be good here IMO.
Well, the reason I tried to represent it is because really, Telekinesis is his super power. It seems kind of weird to not have his actual mutant ability not on the card at all. Telepath could work, but honestly it's not like he's free to use his powers consequence-free. Telepath would show his connection while being very latent, however.

Also, I'm afraid some of his fans will be disappointed in not seeing the yin-yang feel of his Telekinesis/Virus (which is very central to his characterization). I also think his Telekinesis, while certainly not something he would want to use every turn, would certainly be a handy power to use when he needed it. He could take rooftops... push off a heavy hitter... and I think with Sighting the pay off would be worth it as long as you didn't try to use the power every turn.

I kind of had plans on Havok and Corsair being Leaders too (and have Vulcan have some sort of rivalry power that targets Leaders), so that's why I chose it... to kind of 'keep it in the family'. He definitely fits the bill of Leader as well.

Double Attack is very useful, especially on this guy. :ponder:

I'd rather see you roll one combat die for possible damage than an auto wound for Limited Telekinesis. I just can't see myself using it as is. Also seems like you'd want to be able to damage the figure you throw to make it worthwhile ... so I'm iffy on this one for sure. Griff's suggestion might be the way to go if you can get a pretty straightforward one there.

Heck, maybe just double attack?

I like the other powers and they make sense and reveal his thematic connections nicely.
He'd be kind of a monster with double attack and sighting, and a power that encourages others running interference while he camps (Field Commander). I'm not against it, just wondering what it would do to his point cost.
 
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Is there a point cost that you are trying to hit or avoid though? If not, why worry too much about it. Double Attack isn't gonna put him anywhere near 400 points, so why even worry about it? :reapershrug:
 
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True enough. Ideally he should fall around 250 or less I think.

I personally like the Telekinesis, but I won't be crushed if he had double attack. I'd love to hear others' opinions.

Double Attack = more useful, definitely a power that would be thematic for Cable to have.

Limited Telekinesis = more thematic (in my mind), less useful but very helpful in certain situations.
 
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If you put a height restriction on the Telekenisis I would be fine with either. No height restriction & it would be a NO from me.
 
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I think Double Attack would be a more fun option if you can change his class to Telepath.
 
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The more I think about it, the more I like Double Attack, using the first mini shown. This really represents more his down and dirty combat side... leaving the older mini open for a possible future design that's more X-men-saving-Hope-Summers with more of the Telekinetic yin-yang.
 
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The more I think about it, the more I like Double Attack, using the first mini shown. This really represents more his down and dirty combat side... leaving the older mini open for a possible future design that's more X-men-saving-Hope-Summers with more of the Telekinetic yin-yang.

That sounds good. :up:
 
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