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The Book of Braxas

Ya but if you have luck like me you'll use her (which i have been lately funny this came up) and you'll go in saying oh this guy is dead and you roll a one. Then like everyone is saying she is gone with only 3 defence. To sum this up she is clean up on annoying squads or those last heroes(maybe depends on who it is) left on the board.
 
Thewink 45 said:
Ya but if you have luck like me you'll use her (which i have been lately funny this came up) and you'll go in saying oh this guy is dead and you roll a one. Then like everyone is saying she is gone with only 3 defence. To sum this up she is clean up on annoying squads or those last heroes(maybe depends on who it is) left on the board.
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One of Thorgrim's better uses is on Braxas. Going from 3 defense to 4 is like night and day.

She can be a workhorse if you set her up to be. at 210 points she better be the focal point of the army (standard disclaimer applies: higher point games don't count, as there is no focal point; just madness).
 
RattyZ said:
Thewink 45 said:
Ya but if you have luck like me you'll use her (which i have been lately funny this came up) and you'll go in saying oh this guy is dead and you roll a one. Then like everyone is saying she is gone with only 3 defence. To sum this up she is clean up on annoying squads or those last heroes(maybe depends on who it is) left on the board.
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One of Thorgrim's better uses is on Braxas. Going from 3 defense to 4 is like night and day.

She can be a workhorse if you set her up to be. at 210 points she better be the focal point of the army (standard disclaimer applies: higher point games don't count, as there is no focal point; just madness).
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You know, I've had a lot of luck using higher point heroes (like Braxas) as super-ultra clean-up units. You use the rest of your army to "thin the herd", then Braxas can go in and wipe out the scattered remains. I've found Jotun to work fairly well that way, too.
 
RattyZ said:
Thewink 45 said:
Ya but if you have luck like me you'll use her (which i have been lately funny this came up) and you'll go in saying oh this guy is dead and you roll a one. Then like everyone is saying she is gone with only 3 defence. To sum this up she is clean up on annoying squads or those last heroes(maybe depends on who it is) left on the board.
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One of Thorgrim's better uses is on Braxas. Going from 3 defense to 4 is like night and day.

She can be a workhorse if you set her up to be. at 210 points she better be the focal point of the army (standard disclaimer applies: higher point games don't count, as there is no focal point; just madness).
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How about:

3X Knights of Weston 210
Thorgrim - 80
Braxas - 210

500/15

That's a pretty nasty one-two punch and OM placement is a breeze.
 
The Invisibility Treasure Glyph will be Braxas's best friend as her Poison Breath gets around the "attack or special attack" clause of the cloak's deactivation.

Now I will wait until someone reminds me of a bit of wording I have overlooked which negates my finding.
 
Sir Dendrik said:
The Invisibility Treasure Glyph will be Braxas's best friend as her Poison Breath gets around the "attack or special attack" clause of the cloak's deactivation.

Now I will wait until someone reminds me of a bit of wording I have overlooked which negates my finding.
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I never thought of that and you show a very high level of intelligence figuring it out.
 
Sir Dendrik said:
The Invisibility Treasure Glyph will be Braxas's best friend as her Poison Breath gets around the "attack or special attack" clause of the cloak's deactivation.

Now I will wait until someone reminds me of a bit of wording I have overlooked which negates my finding.
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Special attacks still work and the cloak only lasts till the end of the round. Not that it completely negates your finding but there are problems none the less.
 
MrWookiee said:
Does anyone think Braxas would be good with the Greenscales? I've played the Greenscales with Charos, and all Greenscales and my Charos got wiped immediatley by Cyprien.
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I often look to play the Greenscales when I draft a dragon. Haven't played them with Braxas yet but I plan to in the next couple of days. This is the army I'm intending - there's bonding all over the place...

Braxas
Kelda
Greenscales x2
Deathreavers x2
Otonashi
500pts
 
Cat Attack Man said:
MrWookiee said:
Does anyone think Braxas would be good with the Greenscales? I've played the Greenscales with Charos, and all Greenscales and my Charos got wiped immediatley by Cyprien.
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I often look to play the Greenscales when I draft a dragon. Haven't played them with Braxas yet but I plan to in the next couple of days. This is the army I'm intending - there's bonding all over the place...

Braxas
Kelda
Greenscales x2
Deathreavers x2
Otonashi
500pts
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Don't really like this army. Braxas should and will be the primary target of your opponent and one she is dead you have no offensive threats at all. Because of the 3 defense, that 8 life does not hold out as long as you would like and Kelda will not help as much as you think she would.
 
In my Experience i have always liked the Krav Maga, Agent Carr Braxas combo. For 410 points you get a squad melting machine, a solid hero killer in Carr and the Krav can clean up the rest, add in raelin and now were talking about some serious issues..:twisted::twisted:

To my understanding Braxas is currently behind Nilf in "Whos the best Dragon" Forum. I think thats Bogus, her special really is one of a kind, and is far too devastating to put her anything less than #1. I get what people are saying about Nilf's versatility, however; i feel people often forget about Her 5 attack, 8life. It terms of survivability BRAXAS is actually slightly better than NILF :shock:(that is according to the calculator) Personally i think hands down Braxas takes the cake.
 
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That combo seems like it would be pretty effective against most threats. A hero-heavy army or large squads would destroy Braxas though. 10th Reg would probably do decent as well vs the Braxas, Carr, Krav army.

Nilf has 6 attack for better hero killing (Braxas is more swingy with her Breath). Nilf also has 4 defense, which stops a few more low attack range attacks. The ability to target large and huge figures with his attack is another advantage to Nilfheim. Braxas' advantages are ignoring defense- great against Sentinels and Minions, and not being neutered when engaged to use her special.
 
Yes very true the wrong people being large figures with a hard hitting attack. But that 6 move can go along way, so she should be able to avoid most engagements. Her special not being isolated by engagement is perhaps the biggest advantage she has over Nilf. Nilf is certainly better against those large figures but if he gets isolated his usefulness is very limited whereas braxas can still target figures. The problem I have with her is the range of her special. Units like krav, air Bourne elite even syvarris can pummel her from her a far and force her into close quarters where that engagement is enevitable, I guess that's where a unit like Zelrig can come into play. With his 7 range and the ability to target all sized figures he might be better in those scenarios then both Nilf and Braxas
 
It's stated over over again in this tread how people feel the need to draft braxas with some sort of support unit, my question is do you guys feel Raelin or Kelda is better. With Raelin, Braxas pitiful defense of 3 can be boosted to 4 or 5 depending on which Raelin is drafted. Whereas Kelda can replenish the mighty beast's life, and with a massive amount of life having that all be replenished can certainly be game changing, which cheerleader do you prefer?
 
I'd rather have Raelin. The extra D Can really extend Braxas's life. Also with Raelin you usually only have to spend one order marker to get her to the most beneficial spot.

With Kelda you have to spend a marker every time you try to heal.

It gets kind of boring seeing Raelin in every game though, and rolling the D20 for Kelda's healing can add some fun moments to a game.
 
Raelin is nice because her power is static and as Hogg said one OM will get her in place a lot. Also people have to decide to kill Raelin or Braxas first. Usually Raelin, leaving Braxas free to spit acid.
Kelda usually gets left behind and has to be flown back to. I have a love/hate relationship with Kelda. I have on numerous occasions said I will never play Kelda again. Too many 1s on the d20 even before I lost my lucky 20sider. I would run her a lot more if the -2 Life was not in there.
 
The first thing I'd consider, is Raelin's popularity vs Kelda's. As Raelin has become a much more popular tournament unit than Kelda, she is the logical choice. The fewer order markers needed to use Braxas is a major advantage, as she can then use those turns to acid spray.

However, with the right luck, Kelda can obviously extend Braxas's life indefinitely. With 8 life, she should have enough time to do damage and get back to where Kelda is to heal.

Then again, if you are matching Braxas up with the Greenscale Warriors, Raelin would most certainly be the better pick, as you could then potentially have several Greenscales with 6 defense, and Braxas with 5 defense. Thus in conclusion, I must say that Raelin is the better choice (even if it is the less original or exciting choice).
 
Why not both?

My dad played Kelda/Raelin/Braxas/Rats x3/Isamu at a 500 point tournament last winter. While he did go 2-3, he said that most losses were a result of him playing Braxas too aggressively and flying her out of Raelin's aura. It is a strong army to play against a squad-based opponent, but it requires quite a bit of patience and self-discipline. You also have to be willing to give up attacks to stay safe/heal.
 
Great feed back guys, I think the biggest advantage is the placement of the OM's. Kelda is going to require a lot more of them, whereas Raelin can basically fly into position
 
JNellZ22 said:
Yes very true the wrong people being large figures with a hard hitting attack. But that 6 move can go along way, so she should be able to avoid most engagements. Her special not being isolated by engagement is perhaps the biggest advantage she has over Nilf. Nilf is certainly better against those large figures but if he gets isolated his usefulness is very limited whereas braxas can still target figures. The problem I have with her is the range of her special. Units like krav, air Bourne elite even syvarris can pummel her from her a far and force her into close quarters where that engagement is enevitable, I guess that's where a unit like Zelrig can come into play. With his 7 range and the ability to target all sized figures he might be better in those scenarios then both Nilf and Braxas
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Nilf and Braxas both do better with a screen. Deathreavers used to be the screen of choice but now, Greenscales also serve nicely. The engagements you're talking about never occur if you play your screen properly. The Opponent has to engage your screen, while Braxas/Nilf sit back and use their specials...
 
Interesting comments from everyone. I guess my thought is "what is the other 210 points?" One advantage Kelda has is a tendency to be ignored, so if there is another figure worthy of healing involved, it might be fun to use her and Braxas. For example, Charos would be intriguing to use with Braxas and Kelda. Lead with Braxas, pull her back and go plant Charos. Wash, rinse repeat.

~Aldin, who has had some fun with that army but not a whole lot of success (too hard to guess at the right timing of everything)
 
HSSKYRES said:
This guy and 12 blue coats is powerful.i tried it on a small map and I owned the enemy!
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Her Toxic Majesty will not tolerate being called "this guy." :D

I was considering serving the Mighty Braxas with this army:
I humbly suggest that The Excellently Acidic Braxas will lead the way.
x2 Shades of Bleakwoode/Acid Soul-eating Minions. Yes. Acid Upgrade.
x3 Black Wyrmlings. The Great Mother will teach the Royal Heralds how to corrode the dishonorable scum who dare oppose the Regal Black Dragon Queen.


The interesting thing about this army is that Raelin may actually do more harm than good against it.
 
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