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The Book of Black Lantern (Uncommon)

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The Book of Black Lantern (Uncommon)

C3G DC WAVE 22
COSMIC FORCES


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Comic PDF

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Mini PDF

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the War of Light set.
Its model number and name are #008/Black Lantern Reanimate.

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Character Bio - Black Lantern Corps are composed of re-animated bodies of former heroes, villains and even normal people from all across the DC Universe. They are powered by the corpse of the Anti-Monitor and are led by the Black Hand. They have the power to raise the dead. (ComicVine, 2014)
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q: How many black Battery Markers do these Black Lanterns have at the start of the game?
    A: None. As with Absorbing Man and Bishop, you don't start a game with markers on the card unless an ability explicitly indicates you do.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • Black Lantern's Blackest Night 11 special power may place a black Battery Marker on the cards of all Black Lanterns you control.

Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
-Heroscapers Community Contributions-
  • Initial playtest: tcglkn
  • First playtest: (TrollBrute)
  • Second playtest: (tcglkn)
  • Third playtest: (IAmBatman)
  • Most Recent Update
  • Fourth playtest (tested at 140): (IAmBatman)
  • Fifth playtest (tested at 160): (Viegon)
  • Sixth playtest (tested at 160): (fret_gurglo)
  • Seventh playtest (tested at 170): (IAmBatman)
  • Eighth playtest (tested at 170): (johnny139)
  • Art: Comic, Figure, Background
  • Art by Flame Gryphon
 
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Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

NAME = BLACK LANTERN

SPECIES = UNDEAD
UNIQUENESS = UNCOMMON HERO
CLASS = REVENANT
PERSONALITY = RELENTLESS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 4
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 175


DEATH SWARM
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and taking a turn with this Black Lantern, you may either move up to 4 other Uncommon Black Lanterns you control up to 4 spaces each, or take a turn with one other Uncommon Black Lantern you control.

BLACKEST NIGHT 11
If an enemy figure that is not an Android, Construct, or Undead would be destroyed by this Black Lantern's attack or special power, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 11 or higher, place a black Battery Marker on each Black Lantern card you control, if possible. After rolling, if the destroyed figure was a Unique Hero, you may remove a black Battery Marker from this card. If you do, remove all Order Markers from that card, take control of that Hero and its card, and place or remove Wound Markers until the Hero has up to 2 Life remaining.

BLACK POWER RING 2
If this Black Lantern would be destroyed, you may instead remove a black Battery Marker from this card and remove all but 3 Wound Markers from this card. This Black Lantern may never have more than 2 black Battery Markers on this card.

SUPER STRENGTH

FLYING

Art:
Spoiler Alert!
 
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Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

Awesome to see another Tickle LD!

Blackest Night needs to specify unique figures at least for the taking control of part.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

Blackest Night needs to specify unique figures at least for the taking control of part.

So he shouldn't be able to take control of the entire police force by killing one cop?

Place a black Power Marker from this card on that enemy figure's card if it is Unique, take control of that figure and that figure's Army Card, and remove any Order Markers and all but two Wound Markers on that Army Card. If all black Power Markers are removed from the affected figure's Army Card, that figure returns to the player who originally controlled it.

That work?
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

I believe there was discussion of a more gimped version of Blackest Night on the lower-ranking Black Lanterns.

I'd like to see their Range drop as well. Either to 3 or all the way down to 1, as necessary. Stats might be worth tweaking a bit down the line but testing will show that.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

We'll have to be careful moving forward what with them bonding with Drac and all.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

I believe there was discussion of a more gimped version of Blackest Night on the lower-ranking Black Lanterns.

I'd like to see their Range drop as well. Either to 3 or all the way down to 1, as necessary. Stats might be worth tweaking a bit down the line but testing will show that.

There was talk of just doing the ring charging part but I thought Bats wanted the full version here and on Black Hand and the simpler version for heroes who might have more complicated powers like a BL Superman or Aquaman.

What makes you want to see the range dropped? I don't feel 4 isn't that long of a Range, but I'm not opposed to tweaking it if you have a good reason.
 
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Did they have range at all in the comics? :shrug: They had their powers, but I don't recall them ever using ring blasts.

Also, I seem to remember the rings coming specifically from Black Hand, Nekron, or Scar (the Guardian)...? Although for them I'd probably change it to whenever a figure is destroyed within X clear sight spaces, and possibly add the Black Lantern stipulation if need-be.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

For class, maybe Reanimation? And, yeah, we'll have to see how they do with Dracula for sure.

I believe there was discussion of a more gimped version of Blackest Night on the lower-ranking Black Lanterns.

I'd like to see their Range drop as well. Either to 3 or all the way down to 1, as necessary. Stats might be worth tweaking a bit down the line but testing will show that.

There was talk of just doing the ring charging part but I thought Bats wanted the full version here and on Black Hand and the simpler version for heroes who might have more complicated powers like a BL Superman or Aquaman.

What makes you want to see the range dropped? I don't feel 4 isn't that long of a Range, but I'm not opposed to tweaking it if you have a good reason.

Yeah, I'd like to see the full version here. The only thing we need to decide on is where to put the Unique Hero restriction (I think we want the full Unique Hero restriction there, not just Unique, or there will still be oddness with Unique Squads).

Did they have range at all in the comics? :shrug: They had their powers, but I don't recall them ever using ring blasts.

Also, I seem to remember the rings coming specifically from Black Hand, Nekron, or Scar (the Guardian)...? Although for them I'd probably change it to whenever a figure is destroyed within X clear sight spaces, and possibly add the Black Lantern stipulation if need-be.

Hmm, we need a Spidey signal here. Or I'll try to figure out if they should have range or not.

Blackest Night the power has nothing to do with figures getting rings and everything to do with them getting infected by other figures. That Loring chick infected Hawkman and co, and plenty of others were killed and infected during the series. I believe that there's also something where if Black Lanterns bite you, you get an infection that will eventually turn you into one. The rings just find you after you're dead.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

wikipedia said:
The Black Lanterns are corpses reanimated by black power rings, which are fueled by the power of death. Corpses reanimated by black power rings are reconstructed if damaged, keeping the body in working order at all times.[41] Black power rings are capable of regenerating typically fatal injuries inflicted upon their users (including decapitation and complete dissolution).[26][42] The rings generate black tendrils to "root" themselves into the corpses, making it impossible to remove them by physical force.[9]

The first black power rings possess no charge, but each time a Black Lantern kills someone and removes their heart, .01 percent power is restored to every ring in the Corps.[8][43] In Blackest Night #3, Indigo-1 solidifies this theme by explaining that those who rise feed off emotion. Even at low power levels, black rings enable their user to fly and create black energy constructs. They are also unaffected by magic.[25] In "classic" zombie fashion, the bite of a Black Lantern induces a slow-acting necrosis that eventually turns the victim into a fellow Black Lantern. It's unknown if this power can work on any living being, or only those characters who have been reanimated from death before (such as Superman, Green Arrow, and Donna Troy).[44][....] In addition to the abilities granted to them by the rings, Black Lanterns retain any skills and superpowers they may have had in life.

It does say they create constructs. Not sure if that's enough to justify range or not. We'll have to assume these guys are all unpowered victims.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

Very cool. Between the Black Lanterns and Dracula, the whole C3G'verse(unique heroes at least) are potential Undead teammates for Judge Death.
I will be very interested to see what the points are for this design. It would be great if the four Dark Judges and one Black Lantern comes in at about 1000 points(doubtful though).
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

Blackest Night needs to specify unique figures at least for the taking control of part.

So he shouldn't be able to take control of the entire police force by killing one cop?

Place a black Power Marker from this card on that enemy figure's card if it is Unique, take control of that figure and that figure's Army Card, and remove any Order Markers and all but two Wound Markers on that Army Card. If all black Power Markers are removed from the affected figure's Army Card, that figure returns to the player who originally controlled it.

That work?

That sounds familiar. :)

I'd word it like this:

If the destroyed figure was a Unique Hero, place a black Power Marker from this card on that figure's card, take control of that figure and that figure's Army Card, and remove any Order Markers and all but two Wound Markers on that Army Card. If all black Power Markers are removed from the affected figure's Army Card, that figure returns to the player who originally controlled it.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

Very cool. Between the Black Lanterns and Dracula, the whole C3G'verse(unique heroes at least) are potential Undead teammates for Judge Death.
I will be very interested to see what the points are for this design. It would be great if the four Dark Judges and one Black Lantern comes in at about 1000 points(doubtful though).

It doesn't mention anything about that figure being made or considered Undead though.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

My thoughts on range are that I never see these guys use it - they've always seemed close range characters.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

Very cool. Between the Black Lanterns and Dracula, the whole C3G'verse(unique heroes at least) are potential Undead teammates for Judge Death.
I will be very interested to see what the points are for this design. It would be great if the four Dark Judges and one Black Lantern comes in at about 1000 points(doubtful though).

It doesn't mention anything about that figure being made or considered Undead though.
Sheesh. Of course you are correct. Just ignore the newbie. :)
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

If the destroyed figure was a Unique Hero, place a black Power Marker from this card on that figure's card, take control of that figure and that figure's Army Card, and remove any Order Markers and all but two Wound Markers on that Army Card. If all black Power Markers are removed from the affected figure's Army Card, that figure returns to the player who originally controlled it.

Thanks quozl, I knew my version felt "off" but I couldn't put my finger on it.

I like a class of Reanimation here and wonder if making the figures they take control of Undead as well.

I could go either way on the range argument here, but I'm kinda leaning towards making it 1 to keep their price down because these are generally untrained powerless victims.

There's still a 48 hour restriction on editing the SP right?
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

I wonder if sidestepping the whole Undead thing would work thematically and just give them all the species of Reanimate.

They seem to me like a separate thing from Grundy and Dracula.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

Thing is that Undead is a broad team to represent something that was dead but is not anymore. Therefore they are the same as the Lurkers, Dracula and Grundy.
 
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I of course would love the Undead creation but as I think about it, it might be weird if they switch from living to Undead and then back to living. Does this happen in the comics? Has someone turned Undead and then was restored to living after removing the Black Ring?

Also should BN 17 also have an Android and Construct restriction?
 
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I of course would love the Undead creation but as I think about it, it might be weird if they switch from living to Undead and then back to living. Does this happen in the comics? Has someone turned Undead and then was restored to living after removing the Black Ring?

There were a few characters who were brought back and stayed alive after Blackest Night but not everyone.

And you're right on the restriction.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

Ah, forgot about that, Bats. In which case, makes sense to me. :up:

I of course would love the Undead creation but as I think about it, it might be weird if they switch from living to Undead and then back to living. Does this happen in the comics? Has someone turned Undead and then was restored to living after removing the Black Ring?

Also should BN 17 also have an Android and Construct restriction?

There were a few, actually. Black Hand and Wonder Woman being the two biggest examples, but in both cases there were extraneous circumstances (White Lantern ex Machina on Black Hand, and Wonder Woman became a Star Sapphire deputy which overrode the ring), but in general no. The rings couldn't be removed, as they grew directly into the bodies of their 'recruits', and whenever the Black Lantern was destroyed, they would regenerate immediately. If the ring were destroyed (Green Lantern light + Any other spectrum light) then the recruit was gone, seemingly permanently.

On a sidenote, when it comes to class, it's worth pointing out that in the Black Lantern's case it's a bit different than the other Lanterns. It's not the ring resurrecting the body then the body using the ring. I can't quote it exactly, but in the comic it's explained as the rings being alive, and using the body. The bodies aren't technically alive at all, they're just being ridden by the ring, effectively.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

Maybe the species of Dead instead of Undead.
 
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I'd be OK with a species of Dead and class of Reanimation, or a species of Reanimation and a class of Host. I'm also OK sticking with Undead.

I'd prefer not to mess with the extra mechanics of changing a converted figure's species. It's thematic, but not overly necessary and this is already a very text heavy power (which already brings about some concerns for my LD). So let's only add additional text cautiously and see if there are any ways to simplify.
 
Re: The Book of Black Lantern Recruit: Design

They're the bodies of people that are no longer alive moving around as if they are alive. In some cases it's okay to tweak the Species but if these guys don't qualify as Undead no one does. We just have to make sure they're as good in their own context as in larger Undead armies.
 
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Fair enough. I like Reanimated best at the class, then.

I'm also won over on range of 1 for these guys.
 
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