The Book of Batman (Outsiders)

[IAmBatman]

The Book of Batman (Outsiders)

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Comic PDF

Mini PDF

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the The Joker's Wild set.
Its model number and name are #016 / Batman.

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the The Joker's Wild: Batman and His Greatest Foes Fast Forces set.
Its model number and name are #001 / Batman.​

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Character Bio – Disgusted with the Justice League’s ineffectiveness to deal with international incidents after his friend Lucius Fox was kidnapped to Markovia, Batman rejected his League membership and decided to work outside the law. Enlisting Black Lightning, Batman went to Markovia to rescue Lucius and added allies on the way, such as Geo-Force, Katana, Metamorpho, and Halo. The unlikely allies defeated the villainous Baron Bedlam and formed the Outsiders!
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-Rulings and Clarifications-

• Batman requires the Bat-Grapple and Bat Shuriken Utility Glyphs.

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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:

• As an Interloper, Batman has these Interloper synergies.

Outgoing Synergy:

• Batman may activate Unique Interloper Heroes you control with his Outsiders Operations Protocol special power.

Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:

• N/A

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

• Outsiders faction guide

-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

• Initial playtest: (IAmBatman)
• Second playtest: (Arkham)
• Third playtest: (Soundwarp SG-1)
• Art: Comic, Figure, Background
• Art by Arkham

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

NAME = BATMAN
SECRET IDENTITY = BRUCE WAYNE

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = INTERLOPER
PERSONALITY = DRIVEN

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 220

ESSENTIAL UTILITIES
At the start of the game, place the Glyphs of Bat-Grapple and Bat Shuriken on this card. Batman can equip a Utility Equipment Glyph even if there is another Utility Equipment Glyph on this card, up to a maximum of 2. Batman cannot lose these glyphs by receiving wounds unless he is destroyed.

OUTSIDERS OPERATIONS PROTOCOL
After revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card, instead of taking a turn with Batman, you may choose up to two Unique Interloper Heroes you control, at least one of which has not been chosen for this special power previously this round. Take a turn with each chosen Hero. Batman may be one of the chosen Heroes.

MISSION PREP
Once per player turn, before rolling attack or defense dice for a figure you control, you may reveal an Order Marker on this card. For the rest of that player turn, you may add 1 to the Attack and Defense numbers of all figures you control.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

Mini Picture

Comic Picture

Background

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

OK, decided to run this in the public since there's no obvious release place for it right now and I'd love to uplift the Interlopers faction. Also, there's nothing in the works in the Sanctum for Interlopers right now, so anything he'd work well with is already public.

One major thing that's up in the air is mini.

Really hoping to keep the 220 cost for army building purposes, but open to tweaking anything else as needed.

 

[Karat]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

Looks good. A few early tweaks to hopefully save time later

OUTSIDERS OPERATIONS PROTOCOL
After revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card and, instead of taking a turn with Batman, you may choose up to two Unique Interloper Heroes you control that have not been chosen for this special power previously this round and t. Take a turn with each of thosechosen Heroes. Batman may be one of the chosen Heroes.

MISSION PREP
Before rolling attack or defense dice for a figure you control, you may reveal an Order Marker on this Army Card. For the rest of that player's turn, you may add 1 to the Attack and Defense numbers of all figures you control.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

Cool. Since that doesn't affect mechanics at all and it's easy to let these things slip, I'm going to make these updates now!

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

I love how dramatic Batman is in that first comic panel.

This one was workshopped pretty thoroughly, I’m happy with it. Will be fun to have another option for the Interlopers.

 

[Tornado]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

Mission Prep is cool.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

Yeah that's the classic cover for it. They wouldn't rescue Lucius, so he's pissed. I figured even if it doesn't make it to the card, it's a nice thing to have in the thread for backstory.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

Mission Prep is cool.

Yeah, seems pretty reusable since we didn't attach any classes to it. Definitely something I could see on a GI Joe write up, for instance.

 

[MrNobody]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

You know I dig it.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

Seems a bit redundant with Geo-force, who has the same ability but with a restriction. But maybe that works well so the opponent takes out Batman first, then your OMs go to Geo-Force as the contingency. Interesting.

Mission Prep doesn't quite seem like the right name for that ability in my opinion. He's using tactics multiple times throughout the battle, Mission Prep to me, implies a one time bonus at the beginning of the game? Minor point though!

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

The idea behind Mission Prep is that a situation comes up and they were prepared for it so they're ready to react according to plan. Mechanically it falls in line with the way Secret Attack Plan and Attack Plan work.

I'd say he's definitely complementary to Geo-Force, not redundant. Geo's leadership is more powerful, but only triggers when someone's destroyed. This means that right now the Interlopers only have good turn efficiency right after they lose someone. Giving them a leader to lead from the front initially and then having Geo as the back up leader when you start taking people out offers the faction some balance.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

Solid points!

 

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

I like it.

Mission Prep probably needs a once per player turn limit? Like it does cost OMs which is a big deal but there are fairly easy ways to turn it into +3 attack for a bunch of people in the right build, which is scary. And like he's already offering fairly meaty bonding (though for a tiny faction) and some other goodies so I don't think he really needs a window for weird combo builds.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

Hah, bring Punisher along just to cheese Mission Prep.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

I’m fine making it once per player turn. Wouldn’t want to use it for more anyhow.

 

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

I think the go to move would be like... Black Mask II, Hired Guns, a Criminal/Crime Lord that likes attack boosts.

So like the Hired Guns get 1 attack of 4 and 5 and then 6 attacks of 6 then you get whatever the Criminal / Crime Lord gives you. Probably worth the 2 turn trade off.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

Yeah, nothing I want to mess around with.

 

[Lord Pyre]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

New Batman design! Best allies: Black Mask and a bunch of criminals.

 

[japes]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

The idea behind Mission Prep is that a situation comes up and they were prepared for it so they're ready to react according to plan. Mechanically it falls in line with the way Secret Attack Plan and Attack Plan work.

I'd say he's definitely complementary to Geo-Force, not redundant. Geo's leadership is more powerful, but only triggers when someone's destroyed. This means that right now the Interlopers only have good turn efficiency right after they lose someone. Giving them a leader to lead from the front initially and then having Geo as the back up leader when you start taking people out offers the faction some balance.

So bats is on the front line and Geo is hanging out in the bat cave waiting for something bad to happen. Seems like we got it backwards.

I do like this design however.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Breathing

When Batman is with the Outsiders, he’s pretty hands on as a leader. I don’t think Geo would try to call the shots over him.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Design

SP updated with the once per player turn restriction on Mission Prep.

 

[IAmBatman]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - Design

I propose we move to Initial Playtesting!

COMPETITIVE REVIEW BOARD CHECKLIST

Spoiler Alert!

Efficiency- Check to see if your design is providing armies with turns/moves/etc. to a degree that would make it difficult or impossible for an opponent to keep up with your output.

1. Does your design allow itself or figures to move/attack/take a turn/etc. instead of/in addition to your normal turn for revealing an Order Marker? Is it granting these benefits to too broad a range of units? Does it combine with other powers to create overly long or powerful chains of actions?

His turn efficiency given to the Interlopers is the thrust of his design.
This is a class-limited version of an On Deck power (though it is a bit less restricted to once per round selections instead of once per game). It's possible "no additional turns" language should be added here? But that power doesn't have any and I'm not sure we currently have any Interlopers that could exploit this.

2. Does your design allow you to take actions during an opponent's turn? Can it combine with other powers to create tediously long reactions to enemy actions or a restrictive environment?

Not actions, no, but you can remove an Order Marker to boost stats.
It doesn't seem problematic in terms of interruptions, especially with once per player turn restricting it.

3. Does your design allow you to rearrange your Order Markers or otherwise bypass the costs of Order Marker requirements on the special powers of other figures?

No issues.

4. Is your design doing anything outside of a player's turn, at the start or end of the round? Is the effect too powerful by itself or when combined with other powers?

No issues.

5. Does your design have any powers that trigger anytime it moves as opposed to only when it moves normally on its turn? Will it be too efficient when combined with figures that grant extra moves to figures?

No issues.

6. Is your design adding or subtracting from initiative rolls? Will it pair too easily with other figures that alter initiative or have powers triggering on the results of initiative rolls?

No issues.

Potency- Check to see if your design is wounding/removing/etc. enemy figures, increasing the chances of other figures in your army doing so, or otherwise directly effecting the number of figures available to players to a degree that would make it difficult or impossible for an opponent to recover from.

1. Does your design have a chance to inflict wounds or destroy figures? Is it getting these chances too frequently or having to high a chance of success? Is the power balanced against expensive targets that can cause a massive swing in the game when destroyed?

No issues.

2. Is your design adding to the stats or 20-sided die rolls of other figures in your army? Is it a boosting a broad enough range of units effectively enough to become a 'mandatory' draft or inhibit future design space? Can it be combined with other boosts too easily?

It's removing an Order Marker to provide boosts and can do this with anyone. But if you're not using him in a mostly Interloper army, you're leaving a lot of meat on the bone. Seems like there are better ways to boost a Deadly Shot figure's offense in our current library.

3. Will your design benefit from stat boosts or other enhancement to an overpowering degree? Will it restrict future growth within its faction or point cost by limiting available boosts to others?

No issues. I suppose he'll be a necessary combo with any Deadly Shot type Interlopers, but that's a pretty narrow niche and surely the combination would be thematic anyhow.

4. Does your design take control of enemy figures permanently or temporarily? Is it too difficult to for your opponent to regain control of their figure or recover from the losing the figure? Does the method of taking control expose the enemy figure to the powers of other figures in your army that can easily destroy it?

No issues.

5. Can your design heal itself or others or revive itself or others? Is it doing so in a way that an opponent cannot hope to overcome in certain scenarios?

No issues.

6. Does your design place enemy figures on its card or otherwise have an unconventional method of temporarily removing enemy figures from play? Will it guarantee your victory against a single remaining enemy figure?

No issues.


Chicanery- Check to see if your design is preventing your opponent from taking actions with too much ease or is otherwise causing negative play experience through tactics that make your opponent feel you're 'not playing fair'

1. Does your design restrict the movement of enemy figures, or allow you to move enemy figures? Can it do so in a way that results in an unwinnable scenario for your opponent if they are down to one figure, posses only figures with a range of 1, etc.? Can your design easily combine with other figures to greatly impede enemy figures or otherwise gain an excessive advantage?

No issues.

2. Does your design effect/change the placement of an enemy's Order Markers, or remove their Order Markers entirely? Can it force Order Markers to go onto cards that have no figures on the battlefield? Can your design easily combine with other figures to completely dictate the placement of an enemy's Order Markers or remove all of their Order Markers?

No issues.

3. Does your design inhibit your opponent from attacking your figures or make attacking a losing proposition? Are there scenarios or combinations that make your opponent totally unable to harm your figures through attacking?

No issues.

4. Does your design directly negate the powers of enemy figures or otherwise ignore them in a way that can completely disrupt the opponent's strategy or leave them feeling like they are stuck playing figures without special powers?

No issues.

5. Does your design become overly powerful in a podded group of figures, or provide significant benefit to your army without leaving your Start Zone?

No issues.

6. You can attack your own figures in Heroscape, does your design have any powers that will trigger off of doing so or otherwise wounding/destroying your own figures? Is this intentional on your part? Will the design be too efficient or potent when doing so?
No issues.

CONSISTENCY CHECKLIST (SHORT FORM)

Spoiler Alert!

Consistency Concerns
Name and Identity
Verify character is named in a way that is clear, accurate and feels consistent with the way other characters are named.

All good.

Uniqueness and Type
Verify that the power text reflects the listed uniqueness and type, that the uniqueness fits the character, and that squad size is listed for squads.

All good.

Left Box
If the character's species, class or personality is reused, verify that the character feels thematically consistent with other figures that have that species, class or personality. If they are not reused, verify that there is no pre-existing species, class or personality that would make more sense.

All good. All reuses and all feel right for the design. Interloper is pretty core to the design and Driven is our default for Bruce.

Size and Height
Verify that the listed size and height are accurate. Standing the mini up next to a stack of tiles, and a few other minis of various sizes, is encouraged.

All good.

Super Strength and Flying
Verify that these special powers are present if they make sense, and not if they don't.

All good.

New Powers - Names
Verify that any new powers are not using power names identical to, or very similar to, pre-existing powers. Verify that any new powers are actually new and not old powers with new names.

All good. Three new powers that are specific enough to be different. Mission Prep is intentionally written for reusability.

New Powers - Effects
Verify that the effect and timing of all new powers is clear. Verify that any logical immunities, benefits, or weaknesses (whether those be necessary for thematic or mechanical reasons) are implemented: consider whether defensive powers that work against normal attacks should also work against special attacks, whether or not a power has an elemental component that some figures should resist, and whether or not unliving figures (such as Undead and Androids) should be affected.

All good.

Reused Powers
Verify that the design is reusing powers in place of creating new ones, where reused powers could implement the same theme and mechanics with no differences or only trivial differences. Verify that any reused powers have the correct text.

All good.

Power Level
Verify that the character's movement, attack, range, and defense (in conjunction with any special powers that enhance those stats) feel consistent with the capabilities of characters with analogous powers and abilities. Verify that the character falls into a similar point range to characters with comparative powers and abilities.

All good.

 

[Arch-vile]

Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - VOTE for Initial Playte

yea