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The Book of Anti-Venom

Lord Pyre

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The Book of Anti-Venom

C3G MARVEL WAVE 34
WEB OF VENOM


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Comic PDF

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Mini PDF

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Web of Spider-Man set.
Its model number and name are #025 / Anti-Venom.

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Character Bio - After Eddie Brock lost the Venom symbiote to Mac Gargan, he started deteriorating due to cancer. He got a job at a soup kitchen run by Mr. Negative, who used his touch to cure Brock of his cancer. Mac Gargan attacked Eddie later, and the Venom symbiote tried to reunite with Eddie. With Mr. Negative's power coursing through Eddie's body, it reacted with the Venom symbiote, creating a "negative" of it - the Anti-Venom. The Anti-Venom suit has miraculous healing powers, able to cure even drug dependencies and addictions, along with most normal symbiote powers. Eddie used these powers to help Spider-Man defeat Norman Osborn's Thunderbolts, and also heal the sick and addicted.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • N/A
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • N/A
Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:
  • When Anti-Venom attacks an adjacent Symbiote, it subtracts 2 from its defense.
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
  • N/A
-Heroscapers Community Contributions-
  • Initial playtest: Lord Pyre
  • Second playtest: Dr. Jekyll
  • Third playtest: Ronin
  • Art: Comic, Figure, Background
  • Art by Arkham
  • Eddie Brock created by David Michelinie and Todd McFarlane; Anti-Venom persona created by Dan Slott and John Romita, Jr.
  • Comic art by Mirco Pierfederici

Card Updates:
21 November 2020 - Swing Line wording update
 
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NAME = ANTI-VENOM

SECRET IDENTITY = EDDIE BROCK

SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = SAVIOR
PERSONALITY = REPENTANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 2
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 260


HEALER X
Before moving, you may reveal an “X” Order Marker on this card to remove one Wound Marker from the Army Card of an adjacent figure that is not a destructible object or Android. After taking a turn with Anti-Venom, remove one Wound Marker from this Army Card.

SWING LINE 4
Instead of his normal move, Anti-Venom may move up to 4 spaces with Swing Line. When moving with Swing Line, Anti-Venom has the Flying special power, but may not move up or down more than 40 levels in a single swing, and will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

ANTIVENOM GRASP
When Anti-Venom attacks an adjacent figure with a normal attack, subtract 1 from its Defense number or 2 if that figure is a Symbiote.


SUPER STRENGTH
 
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COMIC:
Spoiler Alert!



MINI:
Spoiler Alert!


Background:
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My Venom contribution. Pretty straight forward. My only thing is Tendril Swing vs Swing Line. Swing Line would give him future Spider synergies (He's a good guy as Anti-Venom). Tendril swing would be more powerful and more consistent with symbiotes (Even if he's not TECHNICALLY a symbiote. He basically still is).

I lean towards Swing Line but not a huge deal.

I have to pay my public testing dues before I run his initial, so it'll probably be a while before I get to him!
 
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Looks solid. I like using Swing Line here for good guy spider synergy.
 
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Nice! Cool to see this guy underway.
 
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Not sure if Savior has any White Lantern synergy teed up. Might be kind of weird to include him in that web if so. If not, it works fine.

I'd lean toward Tendril Swing here, because he's definitely not a Spider-Person, even if he is a good guy and Spider-Man character. Like, he's not getting drafted into any Spider-Verse shenanigans.

Disarming Grasp feels a bit weird as a name for something with the specific Symbiote callout. Maybe "Antivenom Tendrils" or something? Capture the same theme but make it a bit more specific to him.

Should he be healing the Undead?

Healers are always kind of hard to use efficiently in Heroscape, so that's something to be mindful of... I think he's a solid enough attacker/tiedown unit that it might be worth keeping him in the fray regardless though.
 
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Savior's also on Ash Williams, so it seemed like fair game here. WLs didn't originate it.

Healer X is also a re-use (off Black Tarantula).
 
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If savior would be a problem we can switch.

If we keep the Spider-Synergies, he'd be more efficient as a healer (For the Spider-Faction). Considering this guy's whole history is teaming up with Pete, I think it's fine to include. Spider-Syngeries (in my opinion) don't need to be specifically from the Spider-Verse events.
 
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I have no problem with Savior. I doubt that will be the callout for White Lantern synergy - we'd just say White Lantern, or Event Savior Hero, or figures with a white battery marker, etc. Ash is a Savior anyway like Ronin mentioned.

He seems really strong offensively, with 6 attack and -1 defense. Is that level of power thematic?

I like him overall! I think Swing Line is typically the last power listed (movement powers break the "turn order" order for powers).
 
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Stats are basically copied from our Venom (With a defense boost because of no spidey-sense). Don't mind adjusting numbers if we need to.

We go all over the place with movement powers. I'll defer to wording guys on that. :lol:
 
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I'd be tempted to bump the Life instead of the Defense, as our no-danger-sense consolation prize.

Thematically, he's definitely a toughie. We could take the Attack down a hair if it seems like too much, but he's definitely a guy who could be north of 250.
 
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Higher life also makes Healing better.
 
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Higher life also makes Healing better.

But with lower defense it's worse. ;)

I'm flexible anywhere on stats. I just want him in the 250-ish ballpark.

Not at all! The lower defense means you have more to heal. :-D

If you have low defense you take more wounds at a time, making each life point worth less. If I have a design with 3 life and 10 defense, healing is much more valuable than like 2 defense and 6 life.

But that's all beside the point. I'm good either way with this guy :D
 
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My logic with wanting him sort of outside the Swing Line contingent is that, bereft of any ways to differentiate between Spider-People mechanically - they don't share a class, their species is too broad, they all have different names - it sort of limits our options if we DID want to do a power that IS just a Spider-Verse thing. I don't really know what that looks like, and maybe I'm the only person who's a stickler about it. I do admit he's going to be pretty homeless without it, though, since Symbiotes are unlikely to use Tendril Swing as a keyword in the same way.
 
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Higher life also makes Healing better.

But with lower defense it's worse. ;)

I'm flexible anywhere on stats. I just want him in the 250-ish ballpark.

Not at all! The lower defense means you have more to heal. :-D

If you have low defense you take more wounds at a time, making each life point worth less. If I have a design with 3 life and 10 defense, healing is much more valuable than like 2 defense and 6 life.

But that's all beside the point. I'm good either way with this guy :D

Suuuure, but to unnecessarily drag on a point I don't really care about because I'm bored, if you have like 2 defense and 6 life, you're probably going to have a chance to heal life much more frequently, which will mean more life healed overall, even if each one is worth less. :p Quantity over quality.
 
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He does get Songbird's Repentant interaction, so you can rope him into Crime Fighter stuff right now that way.

Otherwise, yeah, he doesn't have a ton of paper synergies.

I don't think him showing up in Spider-Verse stuff is a problem, though. I don't think he needs it, necessarily, but like... dude's a superhero with a big spider on his chest. Seems fine.
 
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My first reaction to looking at the card was the 6/6 stats seems like a lot when paired with a -1 defense power and a healing ability.
 
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Yeah, I'd put him at about 300 on the calculator. :2cents:
 
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My logic with wanting him sort of outside the Swing Line contingent is that, bereft of any ways to differentiate between Spider-People mechanically - they don't share a class, their species is too broad, they all have different names - it sort of limits our options if we DID want to do a power that IS just a Spider-Verse thing. I don't really know what that looks like, and maybe I'm the only person who's a stickler about it. I do admit he's going to be pretty homeless without it, though, since Symbiotes are unlikely to use Tendril Swing as a keyword in the same way.

Why would the Symbiotes use Tendril Swing over something like Species = Symbiote? Besides this guy wouldn't really want to be lumped into that web since isn't part of his deal healing the disease he sees as Symbiotes? Maybe that was just one story though. I don't know the character all the much but always thought he looked cool.
 
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Yeah he shouldn't be running with symbiotes. He's a Mutate for a reason. Pretty sure just being around symbiotes can really mess with them.


Let's put it to a vote!

Synergies with Spider-folk? Yes or no?

Stat lines? Life, Attack and defense?


I'm voting yes on synergies. Stat lines I don't care. He has pretty much all the powers as Venom but with his healing powers added, so as long as he's around Venom (230) or under Carnage (280) I'm good. I can tweak during the initial but might as well ask now.
 
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Yes/same as Venom
 
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