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Raudulfr's Custom Terrain (update 8-25-2012)

Love the new wall!

Was the water/glue mix 50/50? Love green foam but I've been afraid to work with it since it's extremely easy to crush. Good to know a few layers of glue will harden it up.

How careful do you have to be with it? Can you just toss it in a drawer or does it need special storage?
 
sodtiwaz said:
Love the new wall!

Thanks!

Was the water/glue mix 50/50? Love green foam but I've been afraid to work with it since it's extremely easy to crush. Good to know a few layers of glue will harden it up.

How careful do you have to be with it? Can you just toss it in a drawer or does it need special storage?
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I mixed Aleene's Tacky glue with water until it was the consistency of heavy cream. Maybe 60 glue/ 40 water? And I really let is soak in, so much that is was oozing from the inside of the piece as it dried. The foam acts like a sponge. I actually held it upside down for a bit just to make sure it was more evenly distributed.

I wouldn't toss it in a drawer though. I do have the piece in a cardboard box with my other custom stuff. This is the first time I've worked with the green foam so I'm not sure how it will hold up long term. But so far it seems tough enough!

Do you think the blue house insulation type foam would be better than the flower foam? I just couldn't spend the $25 at Home Depot for the big 4x8 sheet, so I went with the green flower foam to save some scratch.
 
Raudulfr Shieldcrusher said:
eric.dunfee said:
Very cool!

Isn't that the foam for making custom potted plants? If I remember correctly, it can't take much abuse. Did you do anything to reinforce the strength of the foam first?
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Yes. I soaked it with a glue/water mixture. I did this twice before I painted it. So there are four coats total: glue/water x2, paint (thick black base mixed with sand, then drybrushed), and then a coat of matte varnish.

If you press hard, it will give a bit. But then again, it is a ruined wall, and if it suffers a few bumbs a bruises, it probably won't show! :wink:

For future projects . . . I'm not sure what I can do short of what I did on this one for strength. So I think it will work. But time will tell . . .
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Such an interesting procedure! I never would have thought to soak them in glue/water mixture. I'd love to attempt this wall next summer.
Again, it's simply awesome.
 
Raudulfr Shieldcrusher said:
sodtiwaz said:
Love the new wall!

Thanks!

Was the water/glue mix 50/50? Love green foam but I've been afraid to work with it since it's extremely easy to crush. Good to know a few layers of glue will harden it up.

How careful do you have to be with it? Can you just toss it in a drawer or does it need special storage?
Click to expand...

I mixed Aleene's Tacky glue with water until it was the consistency of heavy cream. Maybe 60 glue/ 40 water? And I really let is soak in, so much that is was oozing from the inside of the piece as it dried. The foam acts like a sponge. I actually held it upside down for a bit just to make sure it was more evenly distributed.

I wouldn't toss it in a drawer though. I do have the piece in a cardboard box with my other custom stuff. This is the first time I've worked with the green foam so I'm not sure how it will hold up long term. But so far it seems tough enough!

Do you think the blue house insulation type foam would be better than the flower foam? I just couldn't spend the $25 at Home Depot for the big 4x8 sheet, so I went with the green flower foam to save some scratch.
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Raudulf, go here for some foam sheets (EPS - holds up well) at a very cheap price. I found that this foam holds up a lot better than the green foam over time.
 
GeneralBeaner said:
It doesn't look like that bridge has any hex spaces on it... does it?
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No, not yet. I thought about drawing light pencil lines to show the hexes. But I also noticed that the planks spaces fall in line with the hex size. So I think I'll just darken the plank in-between the spaces.

Anyway the bridge is five hexes across, not counting the base hexes.
 
The new old wall custom is amazing! I also like the jandar gaurd tower thing. All of your customs are great. I can't wait for more :D
 
Another great piece Raud...I also like working with the green foam and have been trying to figure out exactly how to harden it up without losing the great texture the green planters foam has when it is carved. I do have a question for you regarding how you carved it...Did you use an exacto knife only? I tend to carve basic shapes with my utility knife and then work on details with a pen file set. It is less stressful on foam then a sharp knife and helps prent a too deep of a cut that can split the foam.

I sent Rev a set of boulders I made with the green foam and am awaiting a report back on how they held up during shipping. They were not treated with anything.
 
Onacara said:
Another great piece Raud...I also like working with the green foam and have been trying to figure out exactly how to harden it up without losing the great texture the green planters foam has when it is carved. I do have a question for you regarding how you carved it...Did you use an exacto knife only? I tend to carve basic shapes with my utility knife and then work on details with a pen file set. It is less stressful on foam then a sharp knife and helps prent a too deep of a cut that can split the foam.

I sent Rev a set of boulders I made with the green foam and am awaiting a report back on how they held up during shipping. They were not treated with anything.
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Thanks!

I used a box cutter to make the large sections cuts. Then I used a #2 pencil for the rest of the carving. These were my only tools.
 
Quicksand

I tried an experiment last night. I wanted a quicksand tile to go with the SoTM when it comes out. Now I just need to figure out some rules.

First I cut out a piece of foam-core to fit inside the tiles. I wanted it to be a half height tile. Then I peeled off one side of the foam-core. I dented it up a little and then smeared on the glue and covered with sand. This was just a test to see if I liked the quicksand so I only made these two pieces.
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My daughter donated an old push pin foam board to the customs cause. I like the texture and I'm trying to figure out how to use it. I thought it looked like wind-blown sand dunes, so I cut out a hex and tried it out. The best part is the foam is the same size as the original tiles.
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Started with a coat of brown.
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Here I painted with a watered down green to tint the brown a bit and show hex separators.
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Drybrush of flesh to highlight the sand.
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And then several coats of glossy clear coat to show it's 'wetness'
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Any comments of thoughts?
 
Very interesting. I like the look of it, but I wonder about how to give it rules. Maybe a D20 roll to see if you can get out?
 
Dude! That quicksand is awesome!!!!

I'm constantly checking your thread for inspiration, and ALWAYS see great stuff!

Something I wanted to mention to you that I didn't get a chance to was possibly using resin to coat the foam with to give it rigidity. I'm not really sure of the process or materials... or even cost for that matter, but I'll include a link to a guy that uses it to make custom pc enclosures.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1164136

I know much of it is fiberglass, but I think on some of the pieces he's just using resin.. although I could be completely wrong.
 
Coating foam with resin wouldn't work. At least not with the resin I know. The drying process of resin is a chemical process which produces heat and the the foam would melt. Additionally there are some materials in the resin, foam normally reacts on. So you shouldn't wonder if the foam you wanted to coat, looks like something undefinable in the end. ;)

Greetings from Germany

Gidian
 
Someone posted some quicksand rules a few weeks back but I just woke up so I'll leave the google searching to you guys with active braincells. I do however remember it was a d20 roll and had similar properties to water, i.e. when entering a quicksand space even from another quicksand space end your movement. I seem to recall it having 4 "levels" where you progressively got more and more screwed.

I'd personally simplify it to something like this.

1: Figure is destroyed
2-5: Figure rolls 1 defense dice per base hex size (or per 5 height?) vs a 1 skull attack.
6-10: End movement.
11-15: This tile counts as 2 moves end movement if that exceeds current movement points remaining.
16-20: Continue movement as normal.

flying creatures may ignore quicksand while moving however if they end their movement on a quicksand tile roll a d20.
 
sodtiwaz said:
I'd personally simplify it to something like this.

1: Figure is destroyed
2-5: Figure rolls 1 defense dice per base hex size (or per 5 height?) vs a 1 skull attack.
6-10: End movement.
11-15: This tile counts as 2 moves end movement if that exceeds current movement points remaining.
16-20: Continue movement as normal.

flying creatures may ignore quicksand while moving however if they end their movement on a quicksand tile roll a d20.
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That's a good start! I'd like it even simpler. How about this:

Movement ends when entering a quicksand tile, just like water. It will cost 2 movement points to get out, not including the one move up since quicksand is half-height. At the end of the round, all figures on quicksand tiles roll the D20.

1: Figure is destroyed

2-15: Figure receives one wound

16-20: Figure is safe
 
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