Public Design Workshop

[MrNobody]

What about something like this?

The next time that figure rolls Attack or Defense dice, you may subtract a Skull or Shield from the roll for each Blank rolled.

So it’s not a perfect scale, but obviously Superman is going to be rolling a lot more blanks than your average Citizen.

 

[AlexH12]

I like the idea of having the random chance of smaller to larger penalties. I want to try and see if the chance of -4 can stick to the design.

 

[Yodaking]

Just a FYI, -4 to defense is highly unlikely to ever get passed due in part to what Nobody just outlined with completely negating the Flash. Comic art looks pretty awesome for him, if he doesn't already have a mini I hope he gets one at some point. I'd pick it up for sure.

 

[AlexH12]

Maybe 1-10 is -1 and 11-20 is -2?

 

[IAmBatman]

Thematically and for the sake of keeping it interesting, shouldn't he have a chance to fail in that roll? Especially since he's not really giving up any resources to make the attempt.

 

[AlexH12]

There are two rolls(this is not clear in the description of the power, I will fix it) one to see if it hits(11 or higher) second roll to see what the modifier would be.

 

[IAmBatman]

There are two rolls(this is not clear in the description of the power, I will fix it) one to see if it hits(11 or higher) second roll to see what the modifier would be.

Ah, I see. You might look at C3G Jean Grey as an example of how to word that.

Though I will say, despite how we did it with her, two rolls for an effect is typically considered inelegant (and actually for her it's for two effects: whether she throws someone, and then whether she wounds them).

 

[Yodaking]

Yeah, I'd just keep it one roll 3 different results. 1-11, no effect, 12-17?, -1 def. & att., 18+?, -2 def. & att. Many d20 rolls have more than one result, just look at some of them for wording consistency. Don't think it needs bullet points so skip over those versions.

 

[AlexH12]

Yeah, I'd just keep it one roll 3 different results. 1-11, no effect, 12-17?, -1 def. & att., 18+?, -2 def. & att. Many d20 rolls have more than one result, just look at some of them for wording consistency. Don't think it needs bullet points so skip over those versions.

That sounds good to me. Also, what do you mean by bullet points?

 

[IAmBatman]

When you make a list of power effects of

• 
  three

• or more

• in a special power

 

[Yodaking]

Thanks Bats!

I'm drawing a blank on who has a d20 power with multiple outcomes that does not use the bullet point break down though. Maybe we haven't done it that way before after all and as soon as 3 or more possible results exist the default set up is to use bullet points?

 

[IAmBatman]

I think it's at least largely accepted as a best practice to use the bullet list.

 

[Yodaking]

In that case, Bane, Green Arrow (Oliver), & Hawkeye I are three examples you can look at the wording of.

 

[AlexH12]

Thanks, guys!

 

[CzarChasm]

(I hope I have done that right!)

Saw this figure and thought it would be good for The Octopus.

Edit: It is Horrorclix outpatient.

 

[AlexH12]

NAME = THE OCTOPUS
SECRET IDENTITY = VICTOR OCTAVIUS

SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = RULER
PERSONALITY = ARROGANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 6

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 2
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 7

POINTS = 425


EXTENSIVE REACH
Before moving, you may choose one figure within 5 clear sight spaces of The Octopus. Place the chosen figure on any empty space within one space of its current location. Units targeted by extensive reach do not take leaving engagement attacks.

GRIP OF THE OCTOPUS
Once per round, after moving, before attacking, you may choose one figure within 2 clear sight spaces of The Octopus. Place the chosen figure on any empty space adjacent to The Octopus. If The Octopus attacks the chosen figure this turn, you may add 2 to The Octopus' attack. Units targeted by Grip of the Octopus do not take leaving engagement attacks.

OIL SPEW 11
After moving, before attacking, you may choose one figure within 3 clear sight spaces and roll the 20-sided die.

• If you roll 1-11, there is no effect.
• If you roll 12-17, subtract 1 from the target's next attack or defense roll.
• If you roll 18+, subtract 2 from the target's next attack or defense roll.

Bio:
Victor Octavius was an Italian baron who was found ill with the plague. He was set to find a cure, so he held Henri Pym's wife captive for him to make a cure. Pym needed the blood of a "witchbreed" in order to make this cure. Norman Osborne told Pym about Peter Parker, also known as the spider. Previous attempts to cure Victor led to a mutation from an octopus. Victor grows tentacles and becomes more agressive in his needs. Pym draws blood from Peter to make this cure. When Pym finishes the serum, Victor believes that he is meant to be in this form and smashes the beaker against the ground. Victor is pent up fighting the Spider and does not notice the giant Henri Pym appearing from the sea. Pym tried to lick up the serum, not wanting it to go to waste, in doing that he made himself giant. Pym got his revenge and crushed Victor under his foot.

 

[AlexH12]

Namorita

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = NAMORITA
SECRET IDENTITY = NAMORITA PRENTISS

SPECIES = ATLANTEAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CRIME FIGHTER
PERSONALITY = RECKLESS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = ???

OCEAN VITALITY
Namorita does not stop her movement when entering a water space. Add 1 die to Namorita's attack and defense while she is on a water space. If Namorita ends the round on a water tile, remove a wound marker from her card.

TOXIN SECRETION
Once per round, and before moving with Namorita, you may choose a figure adjacent to Namorita and roll an unblockable attack die against that figure. If a blank is rolled, remove an Order Marker at random from the figure's card.

SUPER STRENGTH

FLYING

Once per round, and before moving with Namorita, you may choose a figure adjacent to Namorita and roll an 20-sided die against that figure, adding 4 to the roll if she is on a water space. If you roll a 16 or higher, the chosen figure receives a wound and until the end of Namorita's turn, that figure cannot move, make leaving engagement attacks, or use any special power on any Army Card or Glyph.

No-Name

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = NO-NAME

SPECIES = BROOD
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = GLADIATOR
PERSONALITY =

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 170

WARBOUND
While No-Name is adjacent to at least one friendly Gladiator, add 1 to her Attack and Defense numbers. After No-Name defends against an attack, you may move one Gladiator figure you control.

BROOD EXOSKELETON
If No-Name would receive exactly one wound from a special power that is not a special attack, you may ignore that wound.

STINGER TAIL STRIKE
No-Name may add 1 to her range when attacking a figure whose base is no more than 4 levels higher than her height or 4 levels lower than her base. If No-Name deals one or more wounds with her normal attack and the defending figure is not destroyed, the defending figure received an additional wound.

FLYING

SUPER STRENGTH

Henri Le Pym

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = HENRI LE PYM

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = SCIENTIST
PERSONALITY = DESPERATE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 3

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 2
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = ???

WHAT I GIVE...
When Henri or a friendly figure within clear sight receives one or more wounds, you may roll the 20- sided die, adding 1 to the roll for each wound marker on this card. If you roll a 14 or higher, Henri’s Species is now Witchbreed and his Size and Height is now Huge 8. Henri now has the Superstrength power. Add 4 to Henri’s Life, Attack, and Defense and remove all wound markers from this card.

...I CAN TAKE AWAY
You may only use this power if Henri’s Species is Witchbreed. You may roll an unblockable attack die against any and all figures Henri moved over or adjacent to this turn. If Henri did not move this turn, you may attack a second time.

FOR JANETTE
You may only use this power if Henri's Species is Human. Before moving, you may roll one unblockable attack die against one adjacent enemy figure. If you roll a skull and the figure takes a wound, you may remove a wound marker from an adjacent friendly figure.

Eraserhead

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = ERASERHEAD
SECRET IDENTITY = SHOTA AIZAWA

SPECIES = QUIRKHUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TEACHER
PERSONALITY =

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = ???

QUIRK : ERASURE
Start the game with an Erasure marker. At the beginning of your player turn, you may choose an opponent's figure within clear sight of Eraser Head. Place the Erasure marker on the chosen figure's army card. Figures with the Erasure marker on their army card have all of their special powers negated. Once placed, the Erasure marker must be removed when Eraser Head is either attacked or wounded. If the marker is already placed, you may instead choose to remove the marker and place it on a different figure within clear sight.
BINDING CLOTH
After moving, Eraser Head may choose a figure within 3 clear sight spaces and move them onto any space adjacent to Eraser Head. Opponent's figures moved by this power may not move out of adjacency with Eraser Head. Eraser Head rolls an extra attack die against figures moved by this power.

Silver Savage

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = SILVER SAVAGE
SECRET IDENTITY = NORRIN RADD

SPECIES = ZENN-LAVIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = GLADIATOR
PERSONALITY =

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = ???

NO MORE SLAVES
Before taking a turn with Silver Savage, you may remove an unrevealed Order Marker from this card. All opponents must return any figures they control within 5 clear sight spaces of Silver Savage to their original owners.

SAVAGE MACE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 7
Silver Savage may only use this special attack on figures he started his turn adjacent to. If you inflict 1 or more wounds with this special attack, you may Knockback the defending figure by placing it on an empty space exactly X spaces from its current position, where X is the number of skulls rolled in the attack. A figure moved by this special power never takes any leaving engagement attacks but can receive any falling damage that may apply.

SILVER SHIELD
When Silver Savage rolls defense dice, you may count one blank rolled as X additional shields. X is equal to the minimum spaces between Silver Savage and the attacking figure.

SUPER STRENGTH

FLYING?

 

[MrNobody]

Link this man up!

Looks good, Alex! Hope we see more from you soon! Any thoughts on more 1602 characters?

 

[AlexH12]

I haven't read any other 1602 series yet, so no, not at this moment.

 

[Yodaking]

I'd link that figure option to your design just so you don't forget about it. Looks like it could work to me, nice going Czar!

 

[MrNobody]

NAME = SUPERMAN
SECRET IDENTITY = LEX LUTHOR

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CHAMPION
PERSONALITY = EGOTISTICAL

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 7

POINTS = ???

SELF IMPORTANCE 17
Whenever you reveal a numbered Order Marker on any other Army Card you control, before using any other special powers, you must immediately roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 17 or higher, you must take an immediate turn with Superman, and you may not take any additional turns with other figures you control. When using Self Importance 17, add 2 to Superman’s Move number for that turn. You may only roll for Self Importance once per Order Marker.

LEXCORP WEAPONRY SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5. Attack 1, 2, 3, or 4.
Start the attack with 8 attack dice. You may attack with 1, 2, 3, or 4 attack dice until all 8 attack dice have been rolled.

MOTHER BOX REPAIR
After taking a turn with Superman, if he is unengaged, you may roll any number of combat dice. If you roll a skull on every die, remove a Wound Marker from this Army Card for each skull rolled.

KRYPTONIAN ARMOR
When rolling defense against a normal attack, you may count one blank rolled as an extra shield.

FLYING
SUPERSTRENGTH

This is based specifically off of Rebirth's Superman Lex (because I think it's a cool look, mainly), but really the main goal is just to capture the general trope of "I'm Lex Luthor, and I'm a good guy now." It could be reworked to be N52 Justice League Lex, or anything really I suppose.

I'm bending the rules on Self-Importance a bit (boosting regular move instead of a movement power), but that's been a hangup I've had with that power for a long time. It takes up a whole design space with the way it works, so it would be nice to give it a bit of flex like we do with Superspeed.

Mother Box Repair and Kryptonian Armor both kind of fall into the same category of survivability powers. I'm way more into MBR, especially since this era of Lex had some strong Apokoliptian ties, but I kind of like KA as a callback to Lex II. I could see dropping KA for space though.

 

[IAmBatman]

Mother Box repair is a pretty cool power. I like that he has Self-Importance along with being a Champion so that he fits into JL builds but it makes you think twice!

 

[Karat]

Seems like we should limit the number of dice, but having to roll a skull on every dienkinds keeps that in check already.

 

[MrNobody]

I guess we could limit it to 3 dice, just to curb potential unforeseen problems. (Like maybe...a design that can steal powers and change combat dice rolled to skulls?) But just taking this design in a bubble, I don’t see it being a problem. He has a 50% chance to heal 1 wound or a 12.5% chance to heal 3 wounds, and he can only do it after ending his turn unengaged. I’d take Wolverine over that every time, personally.

 

[Lazy Orang]

Mother Box repair is really cool, and far from OP (Lizard is laughing at it...). Looking cool!