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[Viegon]

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Thanks for the responses, guys. I updated the wording above, let me know if it sounds better. Stray thought: would “Hyper-Mind” work as a better power name than “Analyze Weakness”?

As to the bonding, I'd prefer to narrow it down, but I do want it to work with both Hercules and Hulk. We could do "choose a unique Creature or Champion hero you control". Would that be better?

 

[IAmBatman]

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That wording for Analyze Weakness is clearer. If you want it to have such a wide scope as to affect even friendly figures, though, I wonder if you don't want to restrict it to normal attacks to minimize potential weirdness.

 

[Viegon]

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That wording for Analyze Weakness is clearer. If you want it to have such a wide scope as to affect even friendly figures, though, I wonder if you don't want to restrict it to normal attacks to minimize potential weirdness.

Thought about that, but wasn't certain. I'll go ahead and do it though (it would subtly encourage Cho to be played with units like Hercules and Hulk who don't have SAs, which is a small plus).

 

[Smithy Winfred]

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So here's my latest design, I'm having trouble figureing out the last special, he uses the bat grapple and other utilities, just as he does as the red hood, but not nearly as much as batman. His suit is also much more armored than the original batsuit. I also wanted some sort of defensive edge, since I won't be giving him a dodge like Batman and Dick Grayson robin.

Batman (Jason Todd)

Bio

Spoiler Alert!

Following his escape from prison, Jason apparently decided to put a bid in for the Bat-mantle. He wore a black and grey Batsuit with two handguns, various other weapons and a mouth-plate. He is also living/operating out of an abandoned Gotham subway system. His inner monologue demonstrated that he'd always had a desire to eventually replace Batman, and his displeasure with Batman becoming a public figure, rather than an urban legend.

Jason begins his war on crime using lethal tactics and leaving slips of paper saying "I AM BATMAN".

After Jason manages to takes down a group of thugs, he then escapes only to have Nightwing and Damian Wayne on his tail. Nightwing deduces that the impostor is Jason Todd. After a short quarrel, Damian is shot by Jason. At the same time, Tim Drake begins a search to stop the imposter and dresses as Batman in order to demonstrate how the real Batman would have acted. Tim finds Jason Todd's "Batcave" in a subway station, and is saved from a booby trap by Catwoman, who knows Tim is behind the mask. Jason ambushes them, disposing of Catwoman, and then getting into a fight with Tim before impaling him in the chest with a batarang, exclaiming "One more to go".

After questioning himself, following Damian's near death, Nightwing goes forth against Jason, intending to take down Todd once and for all. The pair battle, all the while with Jason claiming that Tim is dead, unaware that Tim survived and was saved by Damian and the Squire. The battle accumulates to Nightwing kicking Jason off a speeding train.

When Dick attempted to help Jason, the other man refused and fell to his supposed death, though claiming they would see each other again soon. This allowed Dick to officially assume the mantle of Batman.
(from Batman Wiki)

Spoiler Alert!

Name - Batman
Secret Identity - Jason Todd

Human
Unique Hero
Vigilante
Vengeful? Angry?

Life - 4
Move - 6
Range - 1
Attack - 5
Defense - 6

Brutal Fists
When Jason Todd attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack and at least one skull is rolled, you may attack one additional time, adding one automatic skull to whatever is rolled for the second attack.

Dual Pistols Special Attack
Attack - 4 Range - 5
When Batman attacks with this special attack, he may attack one additional time.

Utility Belt 2

 

[Viegon]

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Nice design, Smithy. I think you might be able to work all those powers in, just mixing and changing them a little:


Name - Batman
Secret Identity - Jason Todd

Human
Unique Hero
Vigilante
Vengeful? Angry?

Life - 4
Move - 6
Range - 5
Attack - 4
Defense - 4

Brutal Fists
When attacking with Batman, if at least one skull is rolled, he may attack one additional time. If he attacks an adjacent figure for the second attack, add one automatic skull to whatever is rolled.

Utility Belt 2

Enhanced Body Armor
When rolling defense dice with Batman, if at least one shield is rolled, the most wounds he may take from the attack is one.


I think Body Armor would be better off simplified like I have above, no need to give it different affects versus different attacks.

Nice start.

 

[IAmBatman]

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I'd drop the body armor power and just give him a defense of 6, and then go with the rest of the powers (though Utility Belt 1 instead of 2).

 

[Balantai]

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IMO:

BRUTAL FISTS
When Batman attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, if at least two skulls are rolled, he may attack the same figure one additional time with his normal attack and add one automatic skull to whatever is rolled.

 

[XDVincent]

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I like the body armour one too. It works more for Jason Todd's Batman. Makes him really tanky. And I think vengeful would be the better personality.

 

[Smithy Winfred]

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I was thinking that 6 defense would be better and simpler than the special power, plus I wanted to use the Dual Pistols special power over the 5 normal range since he I'd rather see him blazing dual pistols with the tradeoff of loosing that powerful second attack.

I'll take bat's advice for utility belt 1, but I personally would prefer 2.

 

[IAmBatman]

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Actually, I was misremembering a write up I had. I could go with Utility Belt 2 here. It's one of about two places I wouldn't mind seeing that power.

 

[Scapemage]

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I'll take a closer look at this one later; it interests me. The one thing I notice though is actually the Class. Should it be Vigilante? With all of the things Jason Todd has done, Mercenary comes to mind for him under the cowl.

 

[IAmBatman]

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I could see Maniac, maybe, but not Mercenary.

But, yeah, I do agree that he probably doesn't deserve the typical Vigilante synergies.

 

[cwidje]

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I like the maniac concept.

 

[Balantai]

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I think Jason/Batman reminded me most of Punisher and he's a C3G Vigilante.

 

[IAmBatman]

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He is. But Jason specifically does not work well with Robin, James Gordon, etc. Whereas with Punisher, we don't really know.

 

[Balantai]

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He is. But Jason specifically does not work well with Robin, James Gordon, etc. Whereas with Punisher, we don't really know.

Ahhhh...I see what you're saying now. By definition, vigilante might fit best, but in terms of C3G theme, it's not really feasible.

 

[IAmBatman]

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I could really go either way, but it's a point for going in a different direction at least.

 

[quozl]

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Since this design won the nomination, I'd like to make some suggestions (marked below).

STAN LEE

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = STAN LEE

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = EVENT HERO
CLASS = CITIZEN
PERSONALITY = EXHUBERANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 3

MOVE = 4
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 2
DEFENSE = 2

POINTS = 200

WRITER'S BLOCK
If Stan Lee is attacked and at least 1 skull is rolled, before rolling defence dice, roll the 20-sided die. Add 6 to your roll if the attacking figure has Marvel above the name on its army card. If you roll 13 or higher, Stan Lee takes no damage from this attack and may immediately move up to 4 spaces. When moving with Writer's Block, Stan Lee will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

TRUE BELIEVERS
After revealing an order marker on this card, and instead of taking a turn with Stan Lee, you may take a turn with any unique hero you control with Marvel above the name on its army card.

EXCELSIOR!
If a Unique Hero within 6 clear sight spaces of Stan Lee receives one or more wounds from an opponent’s attack and would be destroyed,
Instead of attacking with Stan Lee, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 15 or higher you may choose to either;
- Place one of your previously destroyed unique heroes on an empty space adjacent to Stan Lee and remove all wound markers from the destroyed figure's army card.
or
- Destroy a unique figure within 6 clear sight spaces of Stan Lee
Any figure chosen for the Excelsior! special power must have Marvel above the name on its army card., ignore any wounds that figure just received.

The figure used for this unit is a Repainted Heroclix figure from the Avengers set.
Its model number and name are #008 / Wonder Man.

Spoiler Alert!

I removed all the Marvel references. (He did some work for DC comics, after all.) I also got rid of bringing back and destroying a figure as I think that would make this design way too swingy. (Sometimes he'd be worth 10 points, sometimes 450.) This way, he should be a lot easier to determine a point cost (and won't make people too mad playing against him if he's extremely lucky).

Please let me know what you think.

 

[Flame Gryphon]

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Er... I'm not sure I'm as much of a fan of that... he definitely did some work for DC, but he's more well known for his work with Marvel, including the creation of some of the most iconic Marvel characters (Fantastic Four, X-Men, Avengers, Spider-Man, Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, Daredevil etc.) while he didn't really create many, if any, DC characters outside of Just Imagine.. Plus, if someone is specifically drafting Stan Lee, I'm fairly certain they'd be putting him heroes who can best use his abilities.

 

[cwidje]

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I'm with Flame Gryphon on this. I think that he should have Marvel sympathies and perhaps, a counter-DC ability.

 

[cwidje]

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BLINDFOLD

BIO:

Spoiler Alert!

Blindfold is a mutant with a variety of mental based powers, including powers such as: telepathy, precognition, postcognition, clairvoyance and a strong telepathic shield that forbids anyone from reading her mind.

Precognitive: She is able to see events destined to occur and experience precognitive visions.

Retrocognitive: Able to see the past.

Clairvoyant: Able to see far off places or events as well as present events and her surroundings.

Telepathic Immunity: Emma Frost said that Blindfold's mind is in too much flux to for her to read. This does not necessarily mean that Blindfold would be immune to telepathic assaults or other telepathic abilities that only require the telepath to broadcast their power at the target's mind, only that her mind cannot be read telepathically. This would likely mean that she is also immune to telepathic control or possession .

She also has no eyes and instead has skin over her eye sockets.

During the earlier days of her Mutant powers manifesting themselves, as she learned to harness and control them, Ruth showed slight signs of telekinesis as well as the power to control other minds. After the incident with her brother, those gifts were stolen from her, having had her psyche torn apart, it was also an explanation as to why she converses with others so politely and eloquently, constantly referring to herself in the third person and apologizing for aural grammatical mistakes.
(comicvine)

NAME = BLINDFOLD
SECRET IDENTITY = RUTH ALDINE
SPECIES = MUTANT
UNIQUENESS/TYPE = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TELEPATH(PRE-COG?)(SEER?)
PERSONALITY = PERCEPTIVE
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 4
LIFE = 3
MOVE = 4
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 1
DEFENSE = 2
POINTS = 60?

CLAIRVOYANCE
After rolling for initiative, you may look at one unrevealed Order Marker on an opponent's card for each unrevealed Order Marker on this card.

PRECOGNITIVE VISION
If there is one unrevealed[/spoiler] Order Marker on this card, you may re-roll an initiative roll.

 

[Tornado]

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Interesting power set. I was working on something like that for Johnny Alpha. I like your take.

 

[cwidje]

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One of my primary concerns is finding a suitable (not custom-heavy) miniature.

 

[Yodaking]

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I'm with Flame Gryphon on this. I think that he should have Marvel sympathies and perhaps, a counter-DC ability.

This was what I was thinking too. Plays well with Marvel but not against. Plays good against DC (and Image, etc.) but not with them. I like quozls powers better though. Didn't like the instakill and review powers, made him a real powerhouse with a hot d20.

 

[Smithy Winfred]

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He is. But Jason specifically does not work well with Robin, James Gordon, etc. Whereas with Punisher, we don't really know.

Ahhhh...I see what you're saying now. By definition, vigilante might fit best, but in terms of C3G theme, it's not really feasible.

I don't know if it would mess with the theme for the Secret Six, but how would Outlaw work? It seems like the best option outside of vigilante.