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Online Player Rankings Thread

"Intentionally withheld" is maybe a little strong. We are trying to keep things simple in terms of what we're releasing, at least initially.

You can pretty much figure out where people's means and variances are, at least relative to those near them in the rankings, just by looking at the rankings. The players with more games tend to have lower variances, although the more consistent your play is, the quicker your variance drops, as well. So, for example, TSIYW has a higher mean to his ranking than I do, but I have a lower variance, which is why I am (slightly) ahead of him.

There are some dynamics in the algorithm that also govern speed of convergence. There's a variable that basically talks about how likely it is that a higher-ranked player defeats a lower-ranked player. The higher that probability is, the faster a player's variance drops (because the algorithm is more confident that each game result reflects playing skill and not just luck or matchup or whatever). We have tuned this variable based on our results so far, but we still have not done a sophisticated optimization of that convergence dynamics. That is in the works.
 
So only games wins count, but not tournament wins or wins streak if I understand well?
 
Foudzing said:
So only games wins count, but not tournament wins or wins streak if I understand well?
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Yes, streaks and tournament wins do not factor extra into the rankings, as those things don't really have anything to do with skill beyond the individual games.
 
Foudzing said:
So only games wins count, but not tournament wins or wins streak if I understand well?
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Win streaks and tournament wins only count insofar as the wins count, correct. Of course, in the finals of an event you're probably going to be playing a good player, and beating good players is worth more.

It's not an accident that six of our tournament winners are in the top 8, and the other two are in the top 20.
 
Congrats to Foudzing for gaining his second championship. His win over sparkle vaults him all the way to #3 in the rankings, making him the fifth person to hold the third spot in just the past few weeks (Filthy, Wanderer, Kinseth, and Infectedsloth have all taken turns as well). Sparkle still has a comfortable hold on the #2 spot. (The 2->3 gap was a very large one before; while it has shrunk it's still the largest gap in the rankings.)
 
Heh, one loss just plummeted me three spots in the rankings. Maybe I should just drop out now so my Black Wyrmlings don't send me all the way out of the top 25. :lol:
 
Wow, what a pleasant surprise to see I'm as highly ranked as 20th place (at least for the moment). I guess I'm better than I thought I was. Thanks for giving me an excuse to inflate my ego guys!

Edit: Two more wins jumped me up to 11th place! :woot:

Edit: And a loss takes me down to 16th place! Oh well. :lol:
 
I would be doing pretty well if I hadn't gone 1-6 in Season 1. :razz:

So far I've made it to the playoffs in every other season in which I've been a regular player (and not a sub). Hoping to keep it up again with Season 8.
 
Hypothetically, would it be possible to remove (or hide) a player in the rankings if they preferred to not be tracked?

I know some players join the tournaments just for fun, and worrying about rankings might lessen the experience for them.
 
C$$ said:
Hypothetically, would it be possible to remove (or hide) a player in the rankings if they preferred to not be tracked?

I know some players join the tournaments just for fun, and worrying about rankings might lessen the experience for them.
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An interesting thought. I was wondering something similar in that releasing these rankings publicly might cause people to play too competitively, ie. bring serious A level armies when they might otherwise have tried something different.

- Raider30
 
That is why we often go with the "Bring 2" format Raider30. If you bring 2 A+ level armies, be prepared to face one of them every match.
 
C$$ said:
Hypothetically, would it be possible to remove (or hide) a player in the rankings if they preferred to not be tracked?

I know some players join the tournaments just for fun, and worrying about rankings might lessen the experience for them.
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Well, we would still track them, as we need a ranking for pairing purposes. If a player really didn't want to be on the leaderboard, then sure, we could hide his rank. Really, though, I suspect that the people who play just for fun wouldn't bother to worry about their ranking, whatever it is.
Raider30 said:
An interesting thought. I was wondering something similar in that releasing these rankings publicly might cause people to play too competitively, ie. bring serious A level armies when they might otherwise have tried something different.

- Raider30
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As Kinseth says, we try to make sure that players can't win our tournaments just by bringing super-high-end (or low-end) army(s). While the bring 2 formats can be played by bringing something really good and something really bad, then you'll only win 1/2 the time, on average; you might get lucky enough to win several games, but you won't be able to keep a high spot in the rankings for long.
 
Interesting, I'm 2-2 against top 10, 8-1 against 11 to 25 and so 11-4 against everything else.

So I've a way better ratio against 11 to 25 than against other people, quite strange.

And I'm 2-0 against top 1 #dealwithit :p
 
So would there be a way for people not in the top 25 to know were they rank? Sorry if someone has already asked this I'm just curious.
 
Crixus33 said:
So would there be a way for people not in the top 25 to know were they rank? Sorry if someone has already asked this I'm just curious.
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Well if we look season 9 seeds, you're just under Megasilver and Xorlof, so you are definitely top 30, a little win streak can definitely put you top 25.
 
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