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New to the game and looking for sets to start with

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agentJ

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I am looking for ROTV & SOTM sets. Anyone have these for sale? If so, what is the price and shipping to 44136-1777 Ohio.

Unless someone has other ideas about where I should start? Never heard of this game when it was available (did not game back then). I am not trying to collect, I want to play. With friends & family so not looking to get break the bank. In fact, if this is not the best idea, please tell me what is?

It looks like a fun game that I would love to play. Just seems like the cost maybe too steep. Thoughts, ideas, guidance accepted.
 
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Hi AgentJ,

This forum has a section called "Sales & Trades" further down the main page where you might find folks selling lots of 'scape.

The old sets are extremely expensive compared to their original prices, but the new stuff is also expensive given the current day. I would recommend starting off with the new stuff that is hitting shelves just now.

The Age of Annihilation Master Set is brand new. The Battle for the Wellspring box is also brand new and a smaller and cheaper investment if you're not sure you'll like the game.

Lots of events are cropping up everywhere with the new releases bringing masses to the game old and new (like you!). Most players would be happy to show you the game so you can try it before you buy it. Check in with your local game store to see if they know of anyone who is playing Heroscape in your area!

Welcome to the site!
 
Hi agent J! Like Scape mage suggested buying one of the new age of annihilation sets wil probably be your cheapest entry into the series.

Here is a link to game nerdz where I bought mine:

Game Nerdz

Board Games, MTG, Magic: the Gathering, Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, Role Playing Games, Dungeons & Dragons, Warhammer Miniatures, Gamesworkshop and much more.
www.gamenerdz.com www.gamenerdz.com

This is the cheapest site I have found that sells heroscape and they have free shipping over $75. But there shipping is very slow. I still have not received my preorders yet.

These are also unpainted sets. The painted master set will cost about $225 on renegades official site and is out of stock:

renegadegamestudios.com

Heroscape: Age of Annihilation Master Set Premium Painted Edition

Renegade Games Online Store
renegadegamestudios.com renegadegamestudios.com

If you are interested in painted heroscape it might be better to buy the old master sets on ebay or in the "sales and trades" section here.

You probably shouldn't pay more than $180 for a complete ROTV master set and it has more figures and terrain than the new AOA master set.

Here is one on ebay:

www.ebay.com

Heroscape Rise of the Valkyrie DOUBLE SQUADS 48 Figures | eBay

<body><p>Heroscape Rise of the Valkyrie DOUBLE SQUADS. </p><p>100% complete includes manual AND double all squads. Cards and figures in excellent USED condition. May have small blemishes. Shipped FREE with priority shipping. </p></body>
www.ebay.com
 
Totally try it before you buy it. Locals would be ecstatic to have you and you can decide which pieces you need. Depending on where and how you play you may only need the figures instead of the terrain. For instance you can find ROTV figures for $30 and SOTM figures for $50 whereas a complete set of each would cost about $100 and $150 respectfully. Can't beat the new stuff coming on the shelves as they don't have any wear to them at all! IF you do pick and choose which units you want Joecar is a wonderful seller in CAD/US, has great prices and generally the highest stock of them all, so he should have what you're looking for. If he doesnt, Ebay is a great source to find them. Welcome!
 
Another thing to keep in mind as far as buying old sets go. The figures will be fine, but time has done a number on the terrain. Many of us who have the original stuff (20ish years old) are now dealing with 'brittle terrain syndrome.' I believe it's due to the oil that was in the plastic, drying out. A lot of it breaks easily when pulled apart if you're not super careful and even then it may break anyway. When I pull my maps apart now, I usually lose 1 or 2 pieces. You'll likely be better off just acquiring sets of figures from the old master sets.
 
Well, if this isn’t a great chance to pay it forward, I don’t know what is. Im in your same position and received the below advise from @Chris Perkins just a few days ago. Regarding this, I found @OEAO podcast(s) really good, Delta points are important if playing at home, and the army builder (among other things) are great on .org. I’ve been really impressed with this community and think you will be too. Have fun!

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For starters, here's a good thread on the subject that OEAO put together a few years back:

The Competitive Buying Guide​

IMPORTANT: I recorded an episode talking through this. You can listen to it HERE. In it, I explain my reasoning more thoroughly. HeroScape doesn't have to be an expensive game, if you know where to start. This guide will aid the new player in choosing which units to buy first. It isn't quite...
www.heroscapers.com
He also did a CoV podcast on it that's linked in the OP of that thread.
That's a pretty good overview / guide from a standard-points tournament standpoint.

Specific goals are gonna depend on whether you're mostly looking to play at home or at local events.

If you're mostly looking to play at home, I'd probably recommend using Delta Points and buying whatever stuff looks cool / fun to play with, and Delta will get it reasonably balanced for you. You can read more about Delta Points here if you're interested:

Delta: latest updates and discussion​

DELTA ARMY BUILDER Delta is an alternative cost system for Heroscape. It reprices most Heroscape cards, with the goal of putting them on roughly equal competitive footing with each other in 400-600 point games on standard tournament maps. Below are the latest Delta prices. Remember, "Delta VC"...
www.heroscapers.com
In terms of tournaments / the more competitive units at Standard Pricing, looking at the units through a power rankings viewpoint is helpful to narrow down your initial focus to a smaller group of units than everything. That's just ranking units by how strong they are with standard points. You can see a full power rankings list here:
Autoload Builder
Going through that in sections (A+, then A, then A-, etc.) can give you a more digestible chunk of units to read about at a time instead of having to tackle 200+ together.

In terms of broad goals, I'd recommend getting reasonably complete armies (i.e. ~ 3 of a common + a hero or 2 that goes well with them) over a little bit of everything as your starting point because it'll lead to games closer to being what it was intended (it's quite hard to play most commons effectively at just 1x of them, since they're priced assuming you're running a bunch of them together).

Hope that's a helpful starting point.

- Chris
 
DaWhomp said:
Here is one on ebay:

www.ebay.com

Heroscape Rise of the Valkyrie DOUBLE SQUADS 48 Figures | eBay

<body><p>Heroscape Rise of the Valkyrie DOUBLE SQUADS. </p><p>100% complete includes manual AND double all squads. Cards and figures in excellent USED condition. May have small blemishes. Shipped FREE with priority shipping. </p></body>
www.ebay.com
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That link says double squads. Does that mean 2 of each figure, figure card, etc? I have no idea what that means.

Thanks for the information. The one thing I absolutely dislike about ebay is:
They don't give descriptions. The description is "see the pics".
That is fine for someone that has played, followed, knows all about the game since the beginning.
For me, it shows the seller is interested in only selling to people that play, collect, etc. It gives the new player (me) no idea. Is everything there? Is it missing a key figure, card, terrain? I have no idea.

+J
 
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I want to thank everyone for the information and guidance. I really do appreciate your time and help.

+J
 
itsbuzzi said:
Totally try it before you buy it. Locals would be ecstatic to have you and you can decide which pieces you need. Depending on where and how you play you may only need the figures instead of the terrain. For instance you can find ROTV figures for $30 and SOTM figures for $50 whereas a complete set of each would cost about $100 and $150 respectfully. Can't beat the new stuff coming on the shelves as they don't have any wear to them at all! IF you do pick and choose which units you want Joecar is a wonderful seller in CAD/US, has great prices and generally the highest stock of them all, so he should have what you're looking for. If he doesnt, Ebay is a great source to find them. Welcome!
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Looking for locals in the Cleveland Ohio area. I live in Parma.
 
agentJ said:
That link says double squads. Does that mean 2 of each figure, figure card, etc? I have no idea what that means.

Thanks for the information. The one thing I absolutely dislike about ebay is:
They don't give descriptions. The description is "see the pics".
That is fine for someone that has played, followed, knows all about the game since the beginning.
For me, it shows the seller is interested in only selling to people that play, collect, etc. It gives the new player (me) no idea. Is everything there? Is it missing a key figure, card, terrain? I have no idea.

+J
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Yeah I think that listing has two copies of the unique squads in that set so if a squad has 3 figures in it then it will have 2 copies of each figure from that squad. So you will see 2 squads of 3 samurai with duplicate poses. This means you get more than was originally included in the master game but since these are unique squads each player is only allowed 1 copy per army.

Also as NYSS said old terrain tiles tends to break easily so its probably better to buy that new either through one of renegades new starter sets or terrain tile only expansion. I think its easy to find lots with just the ROTV figures and cards but it might be harder to find one that includes all the dice, rules, order markers, wound markers and etc.
 
If you get to try the game out & decide that you're interested in taking the plunge, I have those sets plus a few desirable expansions that were my sons. He's "outgrown" them & I have plenty of my own. I'll offer it all up to you first before I post it here.
 
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