Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread

[machinekng]

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So, how long until we start?

 

[Hrockle]

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We could always have different cards for the same figure, as people in fiction tend to change alot. (Ie:In Star Wars, Anakin as a padawan is completely different than Darth Vader, but they are the same character)

That's fine with me.

 

[Balantai]

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I would be interested in doing a character. Possibilities I'm interested in: The Kids from the D&D cartoon, Spellsinger, Papa Smurf

Welcome aboard.

 

[Balantai]

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Another question. If asupporter doesn't have the time to make a card when his postion in the rotation comes up, could he pass, or delay his turn?

I'd prefer a pass to a delay, but that's definitely allowed.

 

[Lamaclown]

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So, how long until we start?

Well, we still haven't really discussed much what Balantai said here...

There are a couple of items that would need discussion, though.

• Should these cards be on Vahallascape or Marvelscape skins?
• Is a miniature required?
• Will they use movie, tv, video game art or will they use miniature photo?

We got kind of sidetracked in our excitement. A couple of people gave input but I don't know if those issues have actually been settled on.

EDIT: I guess I could give my input on those things:
1. I would lean toward Valhallascape but I am fine either way.
2. I definitely think having a recommended mini is preferable even if we don't use its pic on the card.
3. If we have a decent photograph of the mini that would be great since some characters may not have much to go on as far as artwork. Whichever we decide on I think it is important to maintain consistency in presentation (I like how C3G has cards using each).

 

[Hrockle]

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There are a couple of items that would need discussion, though.

• Should these cards be on Vahallascape or Marvelscape skins?
• Is a miniature required?
• Will they use movie, tv, video game art or will they use miniature photo?

1. Valhallascape, it's more fun with the generals.
2. Not required, but it would be nice.
3. Any is fine.

My

 

[machinekng]

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There are a couple of items that would need discussion, though.

• Should these cards be on Vahallascape or Marvelscape skins?
• Is a miniature required?
• Will they use movie, tv, video game art or will they use miniature photo?

Returning to the issues.

1. For the most part, I think it should be up to the designer. Personally (assuming I merge my attempt at a Wheel of Time customs project with this thread) I want to make custom factions cards for some of my customs.

2. If a miniature of the character is found, it should be featured. If not, a couple of proxies could be found. If anyone knows a good place to look for proxy miniatures, Balanti could add it to the first post.

3. If the miniature is found, both could be used. If not, the art should be used to open up room for proxies. As for the hitzones, I believe common sense could be used easily (no targeting weapons and clothing that stick out from the character.)

 

[Balantai]

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I have updated the first post with the below ruleset. Any thoughts?

Phase 1: Designer Chooses Character
Initial post should contain:
Character's name.
What fictional genre the character is from. I.E. Movie: Star Wars, Literature: Harry Potter, Television: Transformers, etc.
What miniature you will be using.
A short description of the character or link to a description.
Any specific direction you're looking to take the character.

Phase 2: Brainstorming Stage
Anyone from the community is welcome to give ideas for the chosen character. These do not have to be specific Special Powers, but instead could be specific aspects of the chosen character you'd like to see represented on the card. For instance, if Darth Vader is the chosen figure, I might say that I'd like to see his ability to Force Choke somewhere on the card. I'd also like to see his ability to ignore ranged attacks represented. Keep in mind, none of your suggestions need to be embraced by the designer. This is purely done to give the designer ideas. This doesn't mean that you can't offer specific Special Powers. If you have an idea for a specific Special Power that would work well with the chosen figure, please post that idea.

Phase 3: Draft Stage
Once the designer feels he has enough info to start creating a card, he may post his first draft. The lead designer must wait at least 24 hours before advancing to stage 3 from stage 2. This will ensure that everyone gets to post what they feel should be included on that character's card. During the Draft Stage, all aspects of the card should be discussed including stats, Special Powers, cost and power wording.

Phase 4: Voting Stage
When the designer feels that the card is ready for creation, he may propose to finalize the card. To finalize the card, there needs to be approval (thumbs up) from a majority of the active designers. After the card is finalized, the next designer in order is activated and the process resets.

 

[Granite-M]

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1. I'm also in favor of Valhalla-style cards.

2. I would give priority to units with figures, or with decent approximations. For example, there's a Star Wars mini that I think looks like Robocop: Galactic Alliance Trooper #32. I don't think we should be exclusive, but having a reasonable mini is a pretty good point in favor of a custom.

EDIT: Also, call me old-fashioned but I'd prefer that we keep to customs that haven't already been covered in one of the other customs projects. No need to have even more multiples running around, especially when that time and energy could be spent on making originals.

 

[Balantai]

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There are a couple of items that would need discussion, though.

• Should these cards be on Vahallascape or Marvelscape skins?
• Is a miniature required?
• Will they use movie, tv, video game art or will they use miniature photo?

• I have contacted A3n about possibly creating a Vahallascape template. If he has one or is willing to create one, I think this will be our best fit. I think most of us would like to see this. If he is unable, we'll use Marvelscape backing.
• I think a miniature should be required. Even if it's just a proxy miniature that slightly resembles the character.
• I think a miniature photo will be ideal since we are leaning towards Vahallascape.

On a side note, no symbols.

 

[mac122]

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1. I'm also in favor of Valhalla-style cards.

2. I would give priority to units with figures, or with decent approximations. For example, there's a Star Wars mini that I think looks like Robocop: Galactic Alliance Trooper #32. I don't think we should be exclusive, but having a reasonable mini is a pretty good point in favor of a custom.

EDIT: Also, call me old-fashioned but I'd prefer that we keep to customs that haven't already been covered in one of the other customs projects. No need to have even more multiples running around, especially when that time and energy could be spent on making originals.

That figure would be close enough for me. We're not going to find exact figures for every character, we just need to have a reasonable facsimile.

 

[JC McMinis]

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1)I also agree with Valhalla 'Scape.
2)It should have some form of a mini even if its a picture of the character printed on cardstock, standing in a candy land base. and its semi to scale.
3)If an appropriate mini is found then we could use a mini pic, though I prefer artwork pics myself. But if the mini you plan on useing is just a proxie then go artwork.



My first entry I have actually hade made for a while, but as Balantai said earlier I can use it as long as I dont mind criticism and making changes if necessary.

 

[Balantai]

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1. I'm also in favor of Valhalla-style cards.

2. I would give priority to units with figures, or with decent approximations. For example, there's a Star Wars mini that I think looks like Robocop: Galactic Alliance Trooper #32. I don't think we should be exclusive, but having a reasonable mini is a pretty good point in favor of a custom.

That is awesome. I can't wait until we do Robocop.

EDIT: Also, call me old-fashioned but I'd prefer that we keep to customs that haven't already been covered in one of the other customs projects. No need to have even more multiples running around, especially when that time and energy could be spent on making originals.

I completely understand where you're coming from, but I don't see any harm with reenvisioning a character that's already been created. If I start to put limits on what can and can't be created, it'll start to get messy. Do I say no Star Wars, no Comic Book and no D&D? What if someone wants to create Hellboy? He's a comic book character. Or what if someone want to create Drizzt? He's an awesome literature character that might have multiple options, but has never been created in a collaborative effort. In an effort to avoid all of these instances, opening it up to all fictional characters is, IMO, the fairest option.

 

[machinekng]

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On a side note, no symbols.

In that case, no Wheel of Time for me. I had wanted to make Saidin, Saidar symbols, but I guess I'll do that somewhere else.

I completely understand where you're coming from, but I don't see any harm with reenvisioning a character that's already been created. If I start to put limits on what can and can't be created, it'll start to get messy. Do I say no Star Wars, no Comic Book and no D&D? What if someone wants to create Hellboy? He's a comic book character. Or what if someone want to create Drizzt? He's an awesome literature character that might have multiple options, but has never been created in a collaborative effort. In an effort to avoid all of these instances, opening it up to all fictional characters is, IMO, the fairest option.

I think we should stick to characters that have no offical version. If no other offical/semi-offical project has made it, it's fair game.

 

[Balantai]

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On a side note, no symbols.

In that case, no Wheel of Time for me. I had wanted to make Saidin, Saidar symbols, but I guess I'll do that somewhere else.

I really want this project to be completely compatible with traditional Heroscape. As soon as we deviate from that equalibrium, we start to lose people. I know Marvelscape has the Superstrength symbol and C3G has the Flying Symbol, but until Vahallascaple uses them, I'd like to refrain.

 

[dfonse]

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I am interested. I can not make custom cards but I may be able to get figures but I am not positive. I would like to make

Character's name. Ezio Auditore
What fictional genre the character is from. Video game: Assassin's Creed 2 and 3
What miniature you will be using. Arkmar painted white and given a sword.
A short description of the character or link to a description. http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Ezio_Auditore_da_Firenze
Any specific direction you're looking to take the character. As a Jandar assassin with the ability to silent kill.

 

[Balantai]

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1)I also agree with Valhalla 'Scape.
2)It should have some form of a mini even if its a picture of the character printed on cardstock, standing in a candy land base. and its semi to scale.
3)If an appropriate mini is found then we could use a mini pic, though I prefer artwork pics myself. But if the mini you plan on useing is just a proxie then go artwork.



My first entry I have actually hade made for a while, but as Balantai said earlier I can use it as long as I dont mind criticism and making changes if necessary.

I moved you to the top of the list, jcmcminis. Once we get everything hashed out, you can be our guinney pig.

 

[Balantai]

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I am interested. I can not make custom cards but I may be able to get figures but I am not positive. I would like to make

Character's name. Ezio Auditore
What fictional genre the character is from. Video game: Assassin's Creed 2 and 3
What miniature you will be using. Arkmar painted white and given a sword.
A short description of the character or link to a description. http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Ezio_Auditore_da_Firenze
Any specific direction you're looking to take the character. As a Jandar assassin with the ability to silent kill.

Welcome aboard, dfonse. We're going to do this round robin style. I'll add your name to the bottom of the list. Once we get through the people above you, you'll get a chance at creating Ezio Auditore!

 

[machinekng]

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I am interested. I can not make custom cards but I may be able to get figures but I am not positive. I would like to make

Character's name. Ezio Auditore
What fictional genre the character is from. Video game: Assassin's Creed 2 and 3
What miniature you will be using. Arkmar painted white and given a sword.
A short description of the character or link to a description. http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Ezio_Auditore_da_Firenze
Any specific direction you're looking to take the character. As a Jandar assassin with the ability to silent kill.

Okay, but we haven't started design yet. Also, we're taking turns (rotation on first post). I'm sure Balantai would put you in. As for the figure, we're looking more for avaible premade figures, and less for moded figures (although I see the resemblance.)

 

[Balantai]

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...we're looking more for avaible premade figures, and less for moded figures (although I see the resemblance.)

This is a good point. Let's try to use figures that alread exist. If you want to create a modded figure, that's fine for your custom games, but on the card, let's have use a figure that could be found.

 

[dfonse]

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Cool but, what figure is being made now?

 

[Balantai]

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Important Note

In order to get your chance to design, you will need to be an active participator in this thread. That doesn't mean 10 posts per day. It doesn't mean you need to post every day, either. It just means that you contribute regularly in a positive manner. I'll be the judge, jury and executioner when it comes down to deciding who gets skipped/removed.

 

[JC McMinis]

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1)I also agree with Valhalla 'Scape.
2)It should have some form of a mini even if its a picture of the character printed on cardstock, standing in a candy land base. and its semi to scale.
3)If an appropriate mini is found then we could use a mini pic, though I prefer artwork pics myself. But if the mini you plan on useing is just a proxie then go artwork.



My first entry I have actually hade made for a while, but as Balantai said earlier I can use it as long as I dont mind criticism and making changes if necessary.

I moved you to the top of the list, jcmcminis. Once we get everything hashed out, you can be our guinney pig.

Cool

 

[Balantai]

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Cool but, what figure is being made now?

jcmcminis will be posting first as soon as we get all the rules hashed out. We're really close.

 

[Hrockle]

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jcmcminis will be posting first as soon as we get all the rules hashed out. We're really close.

What else needs to be clarified?