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Help With Wurdz
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Dad_Scaper
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I'm glad I could help! Heh.
Thank you all so much for helping out Ryguy, and I'm really touched to see that this thread is now over 50 pages long. Ryguy, thank you for sharing your custom with us and if you still would like help with it, please share again with the language in its new form.
Thanks!
Thank you all so much for helping out Ryguy, and I'm really touched to see that this thread is now over 50 pages long. Ryguy, thank you for sharing your custom with us and if you still would like help with it, please share again with the language in its new form.
Thanks!
Fellow wurd enthusiasts.
I'm working on a personal custom and I'm looking for help. Here, I think the language works and makes sense as intended, but I also wrote the ability so of course it would make sense to me. But I also acknowledge it's very wordy and could be confusing to others.
For context, the power in question belongs to a 3-man squad of "Tortle" Warriors (think Lizardfolk but Turtles/Tortoises), while they have solid attack and great defense, they are a plodding unit with only a move of 3. This weakness is remedied by their Tortle Hero, a Water Mage Tortle named Majikobe. Majikobe can launch the Tortles 3 additional spaces in a straight line (think shell surfing along a powerful wave). If the Tortles "crash" into an enemy figure during or at the end of the movement, it's a beefier attack roll than their normal attack. Note that the idea of Majikobe's not using his special attack as a condition precedent is the theme of him exhausting his water magic for the duration of the player's turn.
1. Does the power work as intended, and even if so, is there a better way to phrase it more succinctly?
2. Are there any issues not addressed in the language?
FLOOD LAUNCH SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special, Attack 4
After moving and instead of attacking normally, any unengaged Stormshell Warrior within 2 clear sight spaces of Majikobe may use Flood Launch. When using Flood Launch, choose 4 spaces in a straight line from the Stormshell Warrior. Move the Stormshell Warrior on the chosen spaces, up to 3 spaces, counting elevation normally. If the Stormshell Warrior ends their movement adjacent to an opponent's figure that is on a chosen space, roll 4 attack dice against that figure. While using Flood Launch, Stormshell Warriors do not take leaving engagement attacks. Flood Launch can only be used if Majikobe did not use Deadly Torrent Special Attack during the player's turn.
I'm working on a personal custom and I'm looking for help. Here, I think the language works and makes sense as intended, but I also wrote the ability so of course it would make sense to me. But I also acknowledge it's very wordy and could be confusing to others.
For context, the power in question belongs to a 3-man squad of "Tortle" Warriors (think Lizardfolk but Turtles/Tortoises), while they have solid attack and great defense, they are a plodding unit with only a move of 3. This weakness is remedied by their Tortle Hero, a Water Mage Tortle named Majikobe. Majikobe can launch the Tortles 3 additional spaces in a straight line (think shell surfing along a powerful wave). If the Tortles "crash" into an enemy figure during or at the end of the movement, it's a beefier attack roll than their normal attack. Note that the idea of Majikobe's not using his special attack as a condition precedent is the theme of him exhausting his water magic for the duration of the player's turn.
1. Does the power work as intended, and even if so, is there a better way to phrase it more succinctly?
2. Are there any issues not addressed in the language?
FLOOD LAUNCH SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special, Attack 4
After moving and instead of attacking normally, any unengaged Stormshell Warrior within 2 clear sight spaces of Majikobe may use Flood Launch. When using Flood Launch, choose 4 spaces in a straight line from the Stormshell Warrior. Move the Stormshell Warrior on the chosen spaces, up to 3 spaces, counting elevation normally. If the Stormshell Warrior ends their movement adjacent to an opponent's figure that is on a chosen space, roll 4 attack dice against that figure. While using Flood Launch, Stormshell Warriors do not take leaving engagement attacks. Flood Launch can only be used if Majikobe did not use Deadly Torrent Special Attack during the player's turn.
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This is an AWESOME power, I love the theme of it. I really enjoyed digging into this one. Lets go!
Firstly, its periods, not commas in the range and attack line, FYI.
For the first part of the text, I'm stealing wording from the Vulcanmech Incendiborg's Flamethrower Special Attack, adding in the stipulations for being unengaged and within clear sight of the hero. This wording allows some figures to attack normally and some to attack with this special attack. It is also shorter by cutting out some unnecessary phrasing and is more specific by referencing "the attacking" figure.
The next part you have is pretty good, except I'm rearranging the first sentence to be a bit more specific and you don't need to specify attack dice in the power unless it is variable (like Samuel Brown's Fire and Rush). Clarified, It looks like this.
And then the caveats at the end of the power. The first is good. The second has to be reworked. Unfortunately, the rules do not differentiate between a "player turn" and a "figure turn" and so while your wording is specific enough to explain your meaning accurately, you're using a term that does not exist. And solving it is tricky. What I've come up with would actually go at the bottom of Majikobe's Deadly Torrent Special Attack instead of here. (This assumes that the Stormshells have standard bonding that works with Majikobe, which I think is a valid assumption.)
So all together, It looks like this:
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Firstly, its periods, not commas in the range and attack line, FYI.
For the first part of the text, I'm stealing wording from the Vulcanmech Incendiborg's Flamethrower Special Attack, adding in the stipulations for being unengaged and within clear sight of the hero. This wording allows some figures to attack normally and some to attack with this special attack. It is also shorter by cutting out some unnecessary phrasing and is more specific by referencing "the attacking" figure.
"An unengaged Stormshell Warrior within 3 clear sight spaces of Majikobe may use Flood Launch Special Attack. Choose 4 spaces in a straight line from the attacking Stormshell Warrior."
The next part you have is pretty good, except I'm rearranging the first sentence to be a bit more specific and you don't need to specify attack dice in the power unless it is variable (like Samuel Brown's Fire and Rush). Clarified, It looks like this.
"Move the attacking Stormshell Warrior up to 3 spaces along the chosen spaces. If the Stormshell Warrior ends their movement adjacent to an opponent's figure on a chosen space, attack that figure."
And then the caveats at the end of the power. The first is good. The second has to be reworked. Unfortunately, the rules do not differentiate between a "player turn" and a "figure turn" and so while your wording is specific enough to explain your meaning accurately, you're using a term that does not exist. And solving it is tricky. What I've come up with would actually go at the bottom of Majikobe's Deadly Torrent Special Attack instead of here. (This assumes that the Stormshells have standard bonding that works with Majikobe, which I think is a valid assumption.)
"Until the next time you reveal an Order Marker, Stormsheel Warriors you control may not use their Flood Launch Special Attack."
So all together, It looks like this:
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It can be simplified more. There's no need to put in anything about Majikobe's Deadly Torrent since if Majikobe is using Flood Launch, he can't use Deadly Torrent.
The only problem is that any defensive powers will see Majikobe as the attacking figure, not the chosen figure being moved.
The only problem is that any defensive powers will see Majikobe as the attacking figure, not the chosen figure being moved.
My understanding was that Flood Launch was on the Stormshells card, not Majikobe's.
Oh these are very good suggestions! I’ll update the card tonight to make sure everything looks good. If anyone is curious, the minis used are shown here, https://imgur.com/a/h8CqFNM (the brown Druid’s yellow magic has been removed)
Is the bonding for "Tortle Hero" or is it a larger synergy web that includes other existing heroes?
Just Tortle Hero for now, of which Majikobe is the only one. Though I guess I could explore something like “Reptilian Bonding” with Lizardfolk/Serpentfolk heroes also. Balancing that could get tricky, but it could be interesting
Dad_Scaper
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Excellent. I love all the help you've already gotten. Is there something more I (or we) can do for you right now, or does this mean you want to do a bit of tweaking?
I appreciate the help! Vydar’s language works perfectly and his bonding recommendation is one I had never thought of and I have implemented it as well. I’ll be putting the cards on my custom forum.
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Awesome. He's so smart. 
Well met!
Make more concise?
DESTREZA
If El Nubarrón attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack and at least one skull is rolled, he may move one space and attack an adjacent figure again. He may continue moving an additional space and attacking an additional adjacent figure, rolling 1 fewer attack die for each subsequent attack, until you fail to roll a skull. Before any of these attacks, if you reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card, you may add one automatic skull to that attack. El Nubarrón does not take any leaving engagement attacks when moving with Destreza.
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That's a tall order, @kolakoski . This one is a mouthful. I encourage you, for simplicity's sake, to consider at least dropping the x-marker feature. That leads to lots of questions, starting with this one: does that auto-hit count as an additional die, for the purpose of subtracting? Next, how do you do the math when you have height advantage? Does that die count as one, for the purpose of subtracting?
I feel like this would prefer being a special attack, just to allow you to write out the rules specifically:
DESTREZA SPECIAL ATTACK
Attack 4+special; Range 1
After attacking with Destreza Special Attack, if you rolled at least one skull, El Nubarron may move one space and attack again with Destreza Special Attack. For each successive attack, reduce the Attack Dice by one. El Nubarron does not take any leaving engagement attacks when moving with Destreza Special Attack.
I dropped the X-marker feature. That's a huge hassle with the math and rules interactions and I encourage you to let it go.
I feel like this would prefer being a special attack, just to allow you to write out the rules specifically:
DESTREZA SPECIAL ATTACK
Attack 4+special; Range 1
After attacking with Destreza Special Attack, if you rolled at least one skull, El Nubarron may move one space and attack again with Destreza Special Attack. For each successive attack, reduce the Attack Dice by one. El Nubarron does not take any leaving engagement attacks when moving with Destreza Special Attack.
I dropped the X-marker feature. That's a huge hassle with the math and rules interactions and I encourage you to let it go.