• Welcome to the Heroscapers 2.0 site! We've still got some dust to clear and adjustments to make, including launching a new front page, but we hope you enjoy the improvements to the site. Please post your feedback and any issues you encounter in this thread.

George R. R. Martin (as well as other recommendations)

I have read many many books but I haven't read anything like asofai. Other books I have greatly enjoyed the Thomas Covenant (white gold wielder) series and the Lost Sword series.
 
I totally recommended GRRM's "Song for Lya." It's a book of short stories that he won the Nebula for, I believe. It's science fiction, but for those who prefer fantasy over sci-fi, like me, wait wait wait. It's GRRM we're talking about. He doesn't do anything the normal way. The fact that these are sci-fi short stories is almost not important. Incredibly interesting stories that deal more with fascinating questions about life. When I finished reading the longest story in from which the book gets its title "Song for Lya." I just sat for about 20 minutes in the coffee shop thinking about it. The premise, no spoilers, is that a couple of married telepaths are sent to a planet to investigate a strange phenomenom. It's a bronze age culture, and when its citizens reach the age of 40 they put some weird slime on their heads and walk around for 10 years in complete bliss. When they are 50 they commit suicide. Typical cheery GRRM. One of the best stories I've read in my life.
 
I actually haven't finished his last book. I got about 1/3 of the way through and decided he went from the greatest author on earth to a flop. His first three books, the greatest books I've ever read. His last book a piece of disorganized, overly backgrounded with non- interesting information, Robert Jordan-ed quest for more money crap.

No wonder he was more than 2 years past his publisher's deadline in getting this out. His last book reads like he'd rather watch football, collect toy knights, go to cons and roll in his money than to mess with this series in a serious matter. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
 
And another thing... don't get me wrong about Robert Jordan. I loved his first book. Thought his second book was pretty good. After the Dragon Reborn, he was done.

I'm just pissed that I see Martin following in his footsteps. Maybe it should be a rule great fantasy epics are only allowed to be 3,000 pages long, tops then you have to let your favorite world, characters, and money maker go. And move on.
 
I actually kind of agree with Riggler. The first trilogy was positively earth-shattering. Feast for Crows felt like he was in love with own voice and lost his purpose. Filler.

Spoiler said:
Especially with Brienne- good lord was that ever a letdown. Still, my favorite character was always Daenarys so I hope Dance with Dragons changes my opinion on these 'intermission' books.
 
Riggler said:
I actually haven't finished his last book. I got about 1/3 of the way through and decided he went from the greatest author on earth to a flop. His first three books, the greatest books I've ever read. His last book a piece of disorganized, overly backgrounded with non- interesting information, Robert Jordan-ed quest for more money crap.

No wonder he was more than 2 years past his publisher's deadline in getting this out. His last book reads like he'd rather watch football, collect toy knights, go to cons and roll in his money than to mess with this series in a serious matter. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Ugh....Robert Jordan....I still have nightmares about that disappointing series. Started out great. When I saw that it's filed under Young Adult I think that's when I finally gave up on it ever getting better. I started reading it when I was a teen, but now I'm in my 30s and I want books that have real human relationships, gruesome fights, heads and hands getting chopped off left and right, and maybe a healthy or unhealthy frolick now and then. Is that so wrong?

I was let down by Feast for Crows but didn't hate it. A friend of mine said it was his favorite book because of all the political intrigue. Too much political intrigue for me in that one. Dance of Dragons should be better since it surrounds the more interesting characters of Tyrion and Daenrys and Jon Snow. But to anyone out there that has not read GRRM, don't let these criticisms cause you to pass on the series because it's pretty amazing.
 
Jotun said:
Riggler said:
I actually haven't finished his last book. I got about 1/3 of the way through and decided he went from the greatest author on earth to a flop. His first three books, the greatest books I've ever read. His last book a piece of disorganized, overly backgrounded with non- interesting information, Robert Jordan-ed quest for more money crap.

No wonder he was more than 2 years past his publisher's deadline in getting this out. His last book reads like he'd rather watch football, collect toy knights, go to cons and roll in his money than to mess with this series in a serious matter. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Ugh....Robert Jordan....I still have nightmares about that disappointing series. Started out great. When I saw that it's filed under Young Adult I think that's when I finally gave up on it ever getting better. I started reading it when I was a teen, but now I'm in my 30s and I want books that have real human relationships, gruesome fights, heads and hands getting chopped off left and right, and maybe a healthy or unhealthy frolick now and then. Is that so wrong?

I was let down by Feast for Crows but didn't hate it. A friend of mine said it was his favorite book because of all the political intrigue. Too much political intrigue for me in that one. Dance of Dragons should be better since it surrounds the more interesting characters of Tyrion and Daenrys and Jon Snow. But to anyone out there that has not read GRRM, don't let these criticisms cause you to pass on the series because it's pretty amazing.

Yeah. I turned on about 15 people in my community to Robert Jordan back in the day. I probably helped him sell more than a 100 books. (some bought numerous copies). And almost all of them stuck with him through, what edition is he on? 15 or something. Out of fan loyalty or one upmanship? I don't know. I stopped halfway through the book after Dragon Reborn b/c it sucked.

I'm not going give up on Martin. I'll pick up Feast of Crows again, probably sooner rather than later. I just hope this isn't the beginning of the end for him. But then again, I'll give him the benefitt of the doubt that when you've been as great as his first three books it can become a tough act to follow.
 
I am reading A Game of Thrones now. I started this weekend and aam only about 300 pages away from finishing now. I wish I had more time to read this week:)
 
Jormi_Boced said:
I am reading A Game of Thrones now. I started this weekend and aam only about 300 pages away from finishing now. I wish I had more time to read this week:)

How do you like it?
 
Hahma said:
Jormi_Boced said:
I am reading A Game of Thrones now. I started this weekend and aam only about 300 pages away from finishing now. I wish I had more time to read this week:)

How do you like it?

Well considering I started it this weekend and I am over 500 pages in, I would say I am liking it pretty well:)

It really has the epic house struggles/political intrigue of Dune, which is one of my all time favorite books. I can't wait to finish A Game of Thrones and move on to the next one. I just hope he finishes Dance with Dragons before I get through Feast.

I am also scared that this is going to make me want to get into the CCG:)
 
Jordan's on number 11. As well as being seriously ill, so hopes of books 12/13 to finish the set are looking a bit bleak.

Shame. I hated several of the later Wheel of Time books until I came to re-read them. And if you can mentally edit out all the braid tugging, and the "Matt/Perrin/Rand would have handled this better" stuff, it's a jolly good read.

I'd made a start on a Feast for Crows, but was in the mood for something lighter so left it. I'll have to pick it up again after Xmas (the current reading matter is so light as to practically FLOAT above my bedside table - Games Workshop's Warhammer 40k fiction, for goodness sake. Complete rubbish, but it does help me get to sleep at night).
 
I read everything GRRM wrote up until ASOFAI. I started A Game of Thrones and was bored out of my mind. (No offense to the series' many fans -- I may have just been in a bad mood during that time.)

I highly recommend:

A Song for Lya
Sandkings (another short story collection - amazing title story was made into a terrible Outer Limits episode)
Tuf Voyaging
The Armageddon Rag
Fevre Dream
Dying of the Light

(edited to add: Most of these will very likely be very hard to find.)
 
Velenne said:
Ah the second book. A Clash of Kings. Also known as the "book throwing" novel. Why? Because I can all but guarentee that if you're into the story at all you're going to end up throwing the book across the room, out a window, or into traffic before you're done. Good luck!

BTW, I love the series and can't wait for A Dance With Dragons.



You were'nt lying about the book throwing Velenne :eek:
 
Hahma said:
Velenne said:
Ah the second book. A Clash of Kings. Also known as the "book throwing" novel. Why? Because I can all but guarentee that if you're into the story at all you're going to end up throwing the book across the room, out a window, or into traffic before you're done. Good luck!

BTW, I love the series and can't wait for A Dance With Dragons.



You were'nt lying about the book throwing Velenne :eek:

Every book so far has had a moment where I was emotionally impacted and wanted to scream out, "NOOO!"
 
noodles said:
Hahma said:
Velenne said:
Ah the second book. A Clash of Kings. Also known as the "book throwing" novel. Why? Because I can all but guarentee that if you're into the story at all you're going to end up throwing the book across the room, out a window, or into traffic before you're done. Good luck!

BTW, I love the series and can't wait for A Dance With Dragons.



You were'nt lying about the book throwing Velenne :eek:

Every book so far has had a moment where I was emotionally impacted and wanted to scream out, "NOOO!"

Yeah, I guess that is why this series is so good. GRRM does the unexpected and it seems more realistic of the times/setting the story takes place in. But come on, did he have to do "That?!!!"
 
Back
Top