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Consolidated List of Problems With The Renegade AOA Roll Out

If I'm as charitable as possible, maybe they realized that the hexes were made so poorly that the moral thing to do is stop selling them until they get a production run in that actually is produced to the proper specification.
 
My FLGS looks like it will be returning its remaining stock to Renegade (primarily due to the poorly-made 24-hexes and tree bases).
The owner didn't say whether he's doing an ordinary refund or expecting a shipment of the second printing whenever it happens.

If I see good reports of the Lands of Valhalla set being manufactured to a higher standard (meaning: connects to old and new hexes without excessive force), I'll likely order one.
 
I finally got my Premium AoA Master Set from Pulse and its missing one of the Exiles minis.
 
chas said:
:confused: These physical problems surprise me, because early in the Renegade Era (unless it was actually the Haslab Era), one of that company's reps said that they were using the same manufacturers who had made the original game terrain. So I thought we were covered.

Unless someone intervened by sticking some kind of bent oar in the water, similar to the infamous Hasbro Exec who had too many of the Unique Heroes produced, when we all only needed one each of them in our collections. This was the worst error made that I can think of offhand when the original game came out.
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It was my understanding that the distribution of too many unique heroes was the fatal flaw that led to the demise of Heroscape. Too much stock sitting on the shelves and in the storeroom.
 
Just_a_Bill said:
I'm happy for you that you can't imagine a reason to stack walls. But no so enthused about your attitude that nobody else should imagine one either.


There were two good paths for Haslab/Renegade to take here and one bad one. The good ones:
1. Refine the column tops so stacking worked.
2. Give up on stacking and resculpt the columns so the tops weren't butt-ugly.

But no, they chose option 3, ugly and non-functional.

Sadly, lots of the aesthetics in AoA are significant downgrades from what Heroscape was before. In particular, these "premium" paint jobs look lazy, flat, and lifeless. I nearly ordered the pre-painted versions, but now that we've seen what they really look like, boy am I glad I didn't. Thankfully the unexpected closing of preorders saved me from myself.
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For me, I never interpreted "Premium" to mean higher quality, just higher price, because some of us (me) did not want to paint figures and were willing to pay more as a result.
 
:brickwall: I just opened up my new Premium Painted Master Set, and all is complete and correct. Something no one has mentioned yet I think, is about the new Large Wall Sections. The small wall sections and the small ruined ones work by placing pillars on adjacent hexes in a straight line, on which the pillar bases fit exactly, and connecting two adjacent ones. In fact, I've just notied that the Battlefield Key (in the Scenario Guide) says to connect any adjacent pillars noted on a map plan.

But trying out the single large wall section, it works by covering one intervening hex between two pillars. However, its not quite long enough to do this, and you have to offset the two bases from the hexes they would be set on. This will skew all the connected hexes it seems to me, although I haven't done any extensive building with them yet.

Its not that big of a deal, but I could only notice it when I had the product in hand.
 
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That's because the large wall sections are not designed to fit over hexes; they're intended to fit in the groove between hexes (which is consistent with what was shown in the Haslab). You're thinking of the largest wall size for the (excellent) custom walls GeneralRolando sells, which we've used before; the official larger wall sections function identically to Rolando's medium wall sections.
 
Gotcha. I'm just setting up a Good vs Evil game with almost all of the terrain and figures from the AOA Master Set, so I've got the big wall literally straightened out now. If you add Shiori but not Sgt. Drake, whose promos we now have from yesterday's store event, the points are equal for the two sides of Good (Dryans and Clockwork Bears) versus Evil (Kyrie and Pirates).

Having played through all the scenarios in the first two boxes with figures in solitaire proxy play, next I'll try that Renegade September Free Online Scenario, the first one they've posted, which looks quite interesting!
 
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