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Classic League IV: 4x530xB CONGRATS DYSOLE

kevindola

13 Time OHS Champion
Classic League IV: 4x530xB

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Championship
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Semifinals
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Quarterfinals
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Round 4
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Round 3
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Round 2
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Round 1
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Complete Army List Per Player
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Event Details
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Games are played using the online Heroscape interface. Links to how-to-play videos below:
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Maps
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Treasure Glyphs and Trap
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History of the Classic League
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Participants:

  1. kevindola
  2. betawolf36
  3. Taeblewalker
  4. Soundwarp SG-1
  5. MegaSilver
  6. Black_Charos
  7. vegie's dad
  8. Kinseth
  9. Dysole
  10. mtl1998
  11. Ixe
  12. belgarath
  13. Cat Attack Man
  14. vegietarian18
  15. simval
  16. Dr. Goomonkey
  17. ScapeRaider
  18. Arrow Grut
 
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Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

I'm kind of interested in this but I'm not sure about building 4 armies with unit restrictions.

Are there plans for a regular Classic HS Only tournament around 500 points? That is what I want to play most.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

I'll be winning... I mean playing in this.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

I'm kind of interested in this but I'm not sure about building 4 armies with unit restrictions.

Are there plans for a regular Classic HS Only tournament around 500 points? That is what I want to play most.


I do an informal poll among the fringe online players before these classic tournaments, and the feedback I get for formatting is almost always one of the following:

1) Army Variety (draft, pod draft, take 2, etc....)
2) Blind with heavy restrictions (B+, Generals, War of the Worlds, etc....)

This particular format I tried to mix the requests (we'll see the results of that experiment I suppose), but I mention all that because I have seen very little to no interest for 'vanilla' blind army construction. If that general feeling changes, than I would be happy willing to roll out such a tournament, but I'm not seeing it yet.

I would suggest posting in the online request match thread for your requested parameters.

I personally find it fun to create multiple armies with restrictions, but I can understand the sentiment if some people don't like the fact they will be non-traditionally competitive armies. Or the dislike for effectively banning some figures from the format.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

I do an informal poll among the fringe online players before these classic tournaments, and the feedback I get for formatting is almost always one of the following:

Having never seen one of the polls, I wonder if you are asking too narrow a pool of players?

I hardly ever get a chance to play Heroscape with people who will challenge me. I would like to play a competitive tournament with access to all the (non Marvel) official figures. Once I'm bored of that I might be more interested in other formats.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

I do an informal poll among the fringe online players before these classic tournaments, and the feedback I get for formatting is almost always one of the following:

1) Army Variety (draft, pod draft, take 2, etc....)
2) Blind with heavy restrictions (B+, Generals, War of the Worlds, etc....)

Interesting. Personally (obviously I don't count as a fringe player, although I'm arguably fringe w.r.t. the classic league) I have a strong preference for the former sort of format over the latter one. I find the "all your figures must have an even number of vowels in their names"-type formats to be kind of arbitrary and boring. They just strike me as a hacky way to create a new metagame, and often that metagame is (to my taste, at least) less interesting than the original.

Broadly speaking, there's a third option available: scenarios or alternative victory conditions. I assume you put that option out but it hasn't been very popular?

As long as you're responding to people's stated preferences you can't really be doing the wrong thing. :up:
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

Can I resubmit army one and four. Both had ten points left and I had to figure out which one needed Otonashi more, but I spent some extra time playing around with points and now I don't need Otonashi in build 4. She needs to be in 1 now and build 4 needs a whole new list.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

I do an informal poll among the fringe online players before these classic tournaments, and the feedback I get for formatting is almost always one of the following:

Having never seen one of the polls, I wonder if you are asking too narrow a pool of players?

Could be. My 'fringe' players are reserved for those who only occasionally participate in the online leagues, or have expressed interest in classic league play or have expressed the once a week time commitment of the normal OHS seasons as being too high. (Which is why this league is bi-weekly). Also I will not that the last poll was done in July so there are undoubtedly some that fall under that criteria since then that I did not include, or I just missed them.

Hogg said:
I hardly ever get a chance to play Heroscape with people who will challenge me. I would like to play a competitive tournament with access to all the (non Marvel) official figures. Once I'm bored of that I might be more interested in other formats.

Looks like you played in Season 14 (Gencon warmup) so I don't know if that format was to your taste or not. I don't particularly want to go into this at all, but I am by no means bored with playing any format of heroscape. Nor do I think that the majority of people who like restriction type formats are bored of standard blind play. It is simply one method used to promote play with figures that are not used as often.

dok said:
I find the "all your figures must have an even number of vowels in their names"-type formats to be kind of arbitrary and boring. They just strike me as a hacky way to create a new metagame, and often that metagame is (to my taste, at least) less interesting than the original.

I find them arbitrary and not boring, but that's just taste. You can ask Vegie about our create-a-format (each player picks two random restrictions) that included an alphabetical caveat. I also used to put three Risk boards side-side-side (2210, Normal, and European) and play time travel Risk, so I am probably a terrible source of this opinion.

dok said:
Broadly speaking, there's a third option available: scenarios or alternative victory conditions. I assume you put that option out but it hasn't been very popular?

I should probably clarify my statement of '...feedback I get is almost always...'. That should be 'of the opinionated responses I get', because I do get responses of 'don't care' or 'whatever format'. The question is a blank 'what format would you want to see' or 'what format do you NOT want to see'. I have not received much response one way or the other about the alternative victory condition formats.

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Can I resubmit army one and four.

that is fine
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

Looks like you played in Season 14 (Gencon warmup) so I don't know if that format was to your taste or not.


Yes I did and it was a lot of fun. It allowed any classic units with a limit of 425 points and 16 figures. I don't like 'reverse the whip' rounds but I didn't make it that far.

Both of the local tournaments I've played in have been 500-540 points with a 24 hex starting zone. That is the format I prefer because it allows a lot of freedom in army building.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

Is there a certain order the maps will be played in? Like is the first round going to be played on a certain map, or will it be random?
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

Is there a certain order the maps will be played in? Like is the first round going to be played on a certain map, or will it be random?


Random

Interesting you bring this up, because I had quite a bit of discussion with various people about setting a pre-determined map order. It was mixed opinions but I decided that the reduction in army variability based on known map conditions was not worth the coolness of designing an army to play on a specific map.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

Signed up! :)
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

Not so sure about B and under for 4 different armies. There's only so many okay-ish builds you can make. If we could re use the armies I would agree with this stipulation, just without it seems a bit restricting. Especially considering some of the rankings can be disputed.***

***I do respect the work they put into the reviews, but it is a small group who decided what these guys should be rated.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

In my opinion, there are many options available... Most heroscape units I consider "really great but not always competitive" are rated between C+ and B+. So with B or lower, there will be plenty of cool units to use !

I'll sign up soon. :)
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

I'll probably sign up soon also. I could stand to take some more online beatings.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

Got my armies in. Very much looking forward to this season! There are way too many fun guys locked down in B ranked and below :).
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

I signed up! Jotun and the Elf Pod are going to get some love. Not to mention Arrow Gruts!
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

I'll be signing up as soon as I finalise armies. FWIW, I love the idea of B and below, but then I almost always tend to draft a theme-based army rather than a competitive one.
 
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Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

Finally finalized my armies. I'm using some figures that I've never used before, and I'll probably just wing it. Any way it ends up, I'm expecting to have fun.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

I like the change up in the format. I also appreciate how you will actually play the variety of your armies. I'm sure that we will see some bad match ups doing it this way, but I'm okay with it as long as I'm still having fun.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

Ok I'm in. I think I may get a chance at actually winning a game this time. I bet it is going to be fun though no matter what.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

I'll definitely be in, but I'll be pushing the deadline probably. Need some time to think about combos that don't involve units that are either the skeletons, phantom knights, or cyprien :p

{SR}
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

A few days left to sign up! A few fun stats:

We currently have 14 people (56 armies)

There are a total of 31 different squads being used and a total of 52 different heroes being used.

The most common squad has been used 7 times (out of 14 people) 1 other squad has been used 6 times. (and several currently standing at 5 times)

The most common hero has been used 7 times. 3 other heroes are in 6 different armies.

No F figures, but 1 D army card is used and 6 C- cards.
 
Re: Classic League IV: 4x530xB (Signups Until 9/28)

I have finally signed up.

For my fourth army I could've chosen the elf wizard pod... But I finally went for a Taelord pod. :p
Beware the might of the Demon Lord !
 
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