(8:34 PM) kevindola: no, I"ve never played on this map.
(8:34 PM) kevindola: looks intetesting though with the a full on double hill but the hill is all lava
(8:34 PM) kevindola: like the floor
(8:34 PM) Chris: Right
(8:34 PM)Chris rolled 15 on the d20
(8:36 PM) Cleon: sorry just thinking of an army...
(8:36 PM) Chris: no problem. Time is one thing I have plenty of :)
(8:37 PM) Cleon: I think ill just do an ornak build
(8:39 PM) kevindola: Multiple Feral Trolls?
(8:39 PM) kevindola: bold
(8:41 PM) Cleon: haha I hate feral trolls
(8:42 PM) kevindola: poor feral trolls
(8:42 PM) kevindola: I think Chris and I had a pod draft game where a feral troll almost ended me
(8:43 PM) Chris: you must have had it in your pod
(8:43 PM) Chris: don't think I've ever brought one to any tourney format
(8:43 PM) kevindola: I'll see if I can find the game. I think it was Heavies vs. Knights of some sort
(8:44 PM) Chris: ugh lava dunks here we come
(8:44 PM) Chris: had a practice game with vegie before gencon last year where a mindflayer dunked raelin & MBS in the same round
(8:44 PM) Cleon: I can play something else instead
(8:44 PM) Chris: nah it's cool
(8:44 PM) Cleon: like brunak if you want to
(8:45 PM) Chris: I have no problem with the figure, just painful memories :)
(8:45 PM) kevindola: there's the game. Quarterfinals Season 29 (November 2017)
(8:45 PM) Chris: damn, you've got a good memory
(8:46 PM) kevindola: well I just remembered playing you with a Troll. I didn't remember the date
(8:46 PM) kevindola: ;)
(8:46 PM) Cleon: feral trolls are so bad imo....they're good in specific endgame situations and that's about it
(8:47 PM) kevindola: I remembered killing the troll with 2 heavy gruts left in your SZ (I still had X17 in my base, but didn't think I would have a chance against the troll healing)
(8:47 PM) kevindola: if the gruts didn't finish you off
(8:48 PM) Chris: 1-10, I place first, 11+ you do
(8:48 PM)Chris rolled 4 on the d20
(8:50 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(8:50 PM) Cleon: you got a good army
(8:50 PM) Chris: i like it. probably what I'm running for the event
(8:51 PM) kevindola: just mind flay Q9 into lava. nothing to be scared about
(8:51 PM) Cleon: im mindflaying him into a tree lol
(8:51 PM) kevindola: I'd like to see Q9 try to climb a tree
(8:51 PM) Chris: lol. roll a d20, 10 or higher and you take 1 wound from hitting the tree
(8:52 PM) kevindola: programming glitch
(8:54 PM) Chris: planning to do many of the online con events?
(8:55 PM) kevindola: but yeah feral troll isn't good unless you're playing someone with a lot of points distributed among non bonding options that can be thinned out by the endgame
(8:55 PM) kevindola: not typically a standard format, but can be quite good in a pod draft or some drafting events depending on the pool
(8:55 PM) kevindola: I haven't decided yet. Definitely won't be in the prep event.
(8:56 PM) Cleon: I'm planning on playing in everything, except im not sure about heroes only and the pod draft. I might skip those
(8:56 PM) Cleon: in
(8:56 PM) Chris: I think I can make all the events, fingers crossed
(8:58 PM) kevindola: awesome. definitely should be a good time
(8:59 PM) Cleon: yeah im excited for 4x400 I have some fun armies I want to try
(8:59 PM) Cleon: hopefully there's decent diversity in the field and not just the typical top 400pt. armies
(9:00 PM) Cleon: just gonna get a drink real quick...
(9:01 PM) kevindola: yeah, I was hoping they'd mix up the point total on that a little bit
(9:01 PM) kevindola: but maybe that doesn't change much of they typical
(9:02 PM) Chris: I don't think it changes the armies that much, unless they make it a lot higher (like in the 550 range with 16 hex max or something)
(9:03 PM) kevindola: I'd go the other way and see what happens. 400 points with a 10 hex limit
(9:03 PM) kevindola: see what that does
(9:04 PM) Chris: huh, interesting. the Q9 army stays the same with less rats. Probably get Nilf + Green x2
(9:05 PM)User Chris has set all Order Markers.
(9:05 PM) Cleon: alright im back
(9:05 PM)User Cleon has set all Order Markers.
(9:05 PM) Chris: let's rock n roll
(9:05 PM)User Chris reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Hydra 1 OM on Nilf 1 OM on Q9 1 OM on Q9
(9:05 PM) Chris rolled 15 for initiative
(9:05 PM) Cleon: word
(9:05 PM)User Cleon reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Ornak 1 OM on Cyprien 1 OM on Hydra 1 OM on Hydra
(9:05 PM) Cleon rolled 13 for initiative
(9:05 PM) Chris revealed OM 1 on Hydra
(9:05 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(9:06 PM) Cleon revealed OM 1 on Ornak
(9:06 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(9:06 PM) Chris revealed OM 2 on Q9
(9:08 PM) Chris rolled 4 skulls with 5 total dice
(9:08 PM) Cleon: I'm trying to play faster online....I got a bad habit of playing long turns with my caster friends when we play long, so if im taking long call me out
(9:08 PM) Chris: gotcha
(9:08 PM) Cleon: 5?
(9:08 PM) Chris: height
(9:08 PM) Chris: glyph is on water 0
(9:08 PM) Cleon: oh their on water I see
(9:08 PM) Cleon rolled 1 shields with 4 total dice
(9:08 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(9:09 PM) Cleon revealed OM 2 on Hydra
(9:10 PM) Cleon: hydra to hydra
(9:11 PM) Cleon rolled 2 skulls with 5 total dice
(9:11 PM) Chris rolled 6 shields with 8 total dice
(9:11 PM) Cleon rolled 5 skulls with 5 total dice
(9:11 PM) Chris rolled 5 shields with 8 total dice
(9:11 PM) Cleon: damn
(9:11 PM) Chris: damn
(9:11 PM) kevindola: dang Chris
(9:11 PM) Cleon rolled 3 skulls with 5 total dice
(9:11 PM) Chris: the triple response, you know the variance is crazy
(9:11 PM) Chris rolled 3 shields with 8 total dice
(9:11 PM) Cleon rolled 4 skulls with 5 total dice
(9:11 PM) Chris rolled 2 shields with 8 total dice
(9:11 PM) Cleon: phew
(9:12 PM) Cleon: at least that
(9:12 PM) Chris revealed OM 3 on Q9
(9:12 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(9:12 PM) Chris: I placed Nilf poorly in the start zone
(9:13 PM) kevindola: well that's why it's a good practice game :)
(9:13 PM) Chris rolled 3 skulls with 4 total dice
(9:13 PM) Chris: indeed
(9:13 PM) Cleon rolled 2 shields with 7 total dice
(9:13 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(9:14 PM) Cleon revealed OM 3 on Hydra
(9:15 PM) Cleon: hmmm I could kill marcu here unexpectedly....
(9:15 PM) Cleon: haha jk
(9:15 PM) Chris: I wouldn't see it coming
(9:15 PM) kevindola: I like it
(9:15 PM) kevindola: for Cyprien
(9:16 PM) Cleon: yeah ill just go here I think
(9:16 PM) kevindola: Cleon's 70% is nothing to Chris' 78% attack
(9:16 PM) Cleon: hmmm... actually maybe not
(9:16 PM) Cleon: ha
(9:16 PM) Chris: my 50 % defense isn't too shabby either
(9:16 PM) kevindola: but keep rolling 50% defense and I predict a Chris victory
(9:17 PM) kevindola: unless there's a lot of high rolling Enslaves and Chilling Touches
(9:18 PM) Cleon: yeah ill go there
(9:18 PM) Cleon: alright hydra again
(9:18 PM) Cleon rolled 3 skulls with 5 total dice
(9:18 PM) Chris rolled 1 shields with 8 total dice
(9:18 PM) Chris: dice cooled off fast there
(9:18 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(9:19 PM) kevindola: too much time in between defense rolls
(9:19 PM) kevindola: you lost all your momentum
(9:20 PM)User Chris has set all Order Markers.
(9:23 PM) Cleon: alright I guess im going with this lol
(9:23 PM)User Cleon has set all Order Markers.
(9:24 PM)User Cleon reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Ornak 1 OM on Hydra 1 OM on Cyprien 1 OM on Krug
(9:24 PM) Cleon rolled 14 for initiative
(9:24 PM)User Chris reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Nilf 1 OM on Nilf 1 OM on Q9 1 OM on Q9
(9:24 PM) Chris rolled 11 for initiative
(9:24 PM) Cleon revealed OM 1 on Ornak
(9:26 PM) Cleon: yeah I think I gotta attack
(9:26 PM) Chris: 8 spaces on the choices
(9:26 PM) Chris: from ornak
(9:27 PM) Cleon: ohhhh, yeah. forgot about that. well, ok then
(9:27 PM) Chris: figured that's why the OM decision took so long
(9:29 PM) Chris: cyprien's also out of 8 spaces
(9:29 PM) Chris: Ornak's hiding away back there
(9:29 PM) Cleon: lol
(9:30 PM) Cleon: alright, that's a big blunder on me then. should've planned with ornak out front
(9:30 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(9:30 PM) Chris revealed OM 1 on Nilf
(9:31 PM) Chris: if you'd lost initiative this was arguably a better spot in case of 2 wounds on hydra though
(9:31 PM) Chris rolled 4 skulls with 6 total dice
(9:31 PM) Cleon rolled 1 shields with 6 total dice
(9:31 PM) Chris: or 3
(9:31 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(9:32 PM) Cleon: where?
(9:32 PM) Chris: oh I just meant with OM1 on Ornak instead of Hydra
(9:32 PM) Chris: not a physical spot on the map
(9:32 PM) Cleon: yeah. I would've done hydra first for sure. I forgot about the range limitation of ornak
(9:33 PM) Cleon revealed OM 2 on Krug
(9:34 PM) Cleon rolled 1 skulls with 2 total dice
(9:34 PM) Chris rolled 3 shields with 6 total dice
(9:34 PM) Cleon rolled 2 skulls with 2 total dice
(9:34 PM) Chris rolled 2 shields with 6 total dice
(9:34 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(9:34 PM) Chris revealed OM 2 on Q9
(9:35 PM) Chris rolled 4 skulls with 5 total dice
(9:35 PM) Cleon: jeez
(9:35 PM) Cleon rolled 0 shields with 4 total dice
(9:35 PM) Chris: yeah I'm still at 75% attack
(9:35 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(9:35 PM) Cleon revealed OM 3 on Cyprien
(9:36 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(9:36 PM) Chris revealed OM 3 on Q9
(9:37 PM) Chris: SA
(9:37 PM) Chris rolled 3 skulls with 3 total dice
(9:37 PM) Cleon rolled 2 shields with 5 total dice
(9:37 PM) Chris rolled 3 skulls with 3 total dice
(9:37 PM) Cleon: ...
(9:37 PM) Cleon rolled 1 shields with 5 total dice
(9:37 PM) Chris: idk what to say. these dice
(9:37 PM) Chris rolled 3 skulls with 3 total dice
(9:37 PM) Cleon: haha
(9:37 PM) Cleon rolled 3 shields with 5 total dice
(9:37 PM) Chris: ah! there you go
(9:37 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(9:38 PM) Cleon: dude last time I played online, I played against heroscaper2010, and I think I had the worst luck ever in a game. I was rolling like 20% for attack
(9:39 PM)User Chris has set all Order Markers.
(9:39 PM)User Cleon has set all Order Markers.
(9:40 PM)User Cleon reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Krug 1 OM on Krug 1 OM on Mindflayer 1 OM on Ornak
(9:40 PM) Cleon rolled 9 for initiative
(9:40 PM)User Chris reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Q9 1 OM on Q9 1 OM on Q9 1 OM on Nilf
(9:40 PM) Chris rolled 13 for initiative
(9:40 PM) Chris revealed OM 1 on Q9
(9:41 PM) Chris: can he see mindflayer through the shoulder pad?
(9:41 PM) Cleon: probably but im not sure
(9:41 PM) Cleon: it's close
(9:42 PM) Chris: SA
(9:43 PM) Chris rolled 2 skulls with 3 total dice
(9:43 PM) Cleon rolled 0 shields with 4 total dice
(9:43 PM) Chris rolled 0 skulls with 3 total dice
(9:43 PM) Chris rolled 2 skulls with 3 total dice
(9:43 PM) Cleon rolled 2 shields with 3 total dice
(9:43 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(9:43 PM) Cleon revealed OM 1 on Ornak
(9:43 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(9:43 PM) Chris revealed OM 2 on Q9
(9:44 PM) Chris: SA
(9:44 PM) Chris rolled 1 skulls with 3 total dice
(9:44 PM) Cleon rolled 0 shields with 3 total dice
(9:45 PM) Chris rolled 2 skulls with 3 total dice
(9:45 PM) Cleon rolled 2 shields with 3 total dice
(9:45 PM) Chris rolled 2 skulls with 3 total dice
(9:45 PM) Cleon rolled 1 shields with 3 total dice
(9:45 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(9:45 PM) Cleon revealed OM 2 on Krug
(9:47 PM) Cleon: yeah im just gonna go for it
(9:48 PM) Cleon rolled 4 skulls with 4 total dice
(9:48 PM) Chris rolled 3 shields with 10 total dice
(9:48 PM) Cleon rolled 2 skulls with 4 total dice
(9:48 PM) Chris rolled 2 shields with 10 total dice
(9:48 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(9:48 PM) Chris revealed OM 3 on Nilf
(9:49 PM) Cleon: oh we were supposed to roll for disengage
(9:49 PM) Chris: let's pretend I chose not to roll then
(9:49 PM) Chris: might not have rolled there anyways, not sure
(9:49 PM) Chris rolled 3 skulls with 6 total dice
(9:49 PM) Cleon: haha It could have made a big difference but ok
(9:49 PM) Chris: do you want to re-do the turn?
(9:49 PM) Cleon rolled 1 shields with 3 total dice
(9:49 PM) Cleon: nah its cool
(9:50 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(9:50 PM) Cleon: it's partially on me as well, and I didn't catch it
(9:51 PM) Cleon: so no worries
(9:51 PM) Cleon revealed OM 3 on Krug
(9:51 PM) Chris: I'll decline the LEA
(9:52 PM) Chris: not sure if that's right or not here though
(9:52 PM) Cleon: I'd probably decline it
(9:53 PM) Cleon: wait can you even decline LEA's? I don't know if you can
(9:53 PM) Chris: you can, I'm pretty sure
(9:53 PM) Cleon: ok
(9:54 PM) Cleon rolled 5 skulls with 7 total dice
(9:54 PM) Chris rolled 2 shields with 9 total dice
(9:54 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(9:55 PM) Chris: lava
(9:55 PM) Cleon: right
(9:55 PM) Cleon rolled 0 skulls with 1 total dice
(9:56 PM) Chris: yeah, LEA is option. From the master set rules, "the figure may take a 'passing swipe' at your figure...
(9:57 PM) Cleon: Ok, cool. So it's all good
(9:57 PM) Cleon: :)
(9:57 PM) Cleon: I wasn't sure, I guess it's been a bit since I've played krug
(9:57 PM) Chris: important rule for Marcu switching sides also otherwise the other player just repeatedly disengages with him each move to 'fly' like 7 times
(9:57 PM) Cleon: Right
(9:57 PM)User Chris has set all Order Markers.
(9:58 PM) Cleon: I thought the marcu thing didn't work for a different reason but nonetheless, yeah it's important
(9:58 PM)User Cleon has set all Order Markers.
(9:58 PM)User Cleon reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Krug 1 OM on Krug 1 OM on Isamu 1 OM on Krug
(9:58 PM) Cleon rolled 10 for initiative
(9:58 PM)User Chris reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Marcu 1 OM on Nilf 1 OM on Nilf 1 OM on Nilf
(9:58 PM) Chris rolled 9 for initiative
(9:59 PM) Cleon: this game had a few innitiatives that were too huge, I guess that's how it goes in heroes only
(9:59 PM) Chris: yeah, much higher variance in heroes only
(9:59 PM) Cleon revealed OM 1 on Krug
(9:59 PM) Chris: losing 1 figure is almost always huge
(9:59 PM) Cleon: yeah
(10:02 PM) Cleon: hmmm, to go for realin or not.
(10:02 PM) Cleon rolled 3 skulls with 6 total dice
(10:02 PM) Chris: yeah I think you have to hit Nilf here
(10:02 PM) Chris rolled 3 shields with 6 total dice
(10:02 PM) Cleon rolled 4 skulls with 6 total dice
(10:03 PM) Chris: otherwise nilf gets heighted shot down + heal glyph turn after
(10:03 PM) Chris rolled 2 shields with 6 total dice
(10:03 PM) Cleon: yeah
(10:03 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(10:03 PM) Chris revealed OM 1 on Nilf
(10:04 PM) Chris rolled 4 skulls with 6 total dice
(10:04 PM) Cleon rolled 1 shields with 3 total dice
(10:04 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(10:04 PM) Chris: Well Krug will hurt some things now
(10:04 PM) Cleon revealed OM 2 on Krug
(10:04 PM) Chris: rip Nilf
(10:05 PM) Cleon: I don't think youre out even if nilf goes down
(10:06 PM) Cleon rolled 3 skulls with 9 total dice
(10:06 PM) Chris rolled 1 shields with 6 total dice
(10:07 PM) Cleon rolled 3 skulls with 9 total dice
(10:07 PM) Chris rolled 4 shields with 6 total dice
(10:07 PM) Chris: welp. the dice are still my friend it seems
(10:07 PM) Cleon: should've faced krug the other direction :(
(10:07 PM) Chris revealed OM 2 on Nilf
(10:07 PM) Chris: sidengage
(10:07 PM) Chris: *disengage
(10:07 PM) Cleon: unless you whiff you got it
(10:07 PM) Cleon rolled 1 skulls with 1 total dice
(10:08 PM) Chris rolled 6 skulls with 7 total dice
(10:08 PM) Chris: far from a whif
(10:08 PM) Cleon rolled 1 shields with 3 total dice
(10:08 PM) Cleon revealed OM 3 on Krug
(10:08 PM) Chris revealed OM 3 on Nilf
(10:08 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(10:09 PM) Cleon rolled 6 skulls with 9 total dice
(10:09 PM) Cleon rolled 4 skulls with 9 total dice
(10:09 PM) Cleon rolled 3 skulls with 9 total dice
(10:09 PM) Cleon rolled 5 skulls with 9 total dice
(10:09 PM) Cleon rolled 4 skulls with 9 total dice
(10:09 PM) Cleon rolled 6 skulls with 9 total dice
(10:09 PM) Chris: getting your average dice closer to 50%?
(10:09 PM) Cleon: haha yeah
(10:09 PM)User Chris has set all Order Markers.
(10:10 PM) Chris: I'm amazed we didn't burn Kelda yet with all these heroes
(10:10 PM)User Cleon has set all Order Markers.
(10:10 PM)User Chris reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Nilf 1 OM on Marcu 1 OM on Nilf 1 OM on Nilf
(10:10 PM) Chris rolled 6 for initiative
(10:11 PM) Cleon: I probably should have played around it with Cyprien, but it didn't expect him to go down to q9 that fast
(10:11 PM)User Cleon reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Ornak 1 OM on Isamu 1 OM on Isamu 1 OM on Ornak
(10:11 PM) Cleon rolled 18 for initiative
(10:11 PM) Cleon revealed OM 1 on Ornak
(10:11 PM) Chris: actually I think your Hydra rush was a great round 1
(10:12 PM) Chris: took me by surprise, but I thought it was a lot more effective
(10:13 PM) Cleon: yeah I liked it too, just when I messed up that ornak round I was expecting cyprian to have been off that glyph into my start zone, then on that OM3 move cyprian near kelda
(10:13 PM) Chris: that makes sense. then you do Hydra offense + Cyprien -> Kelda
(10:13 PM) Cleon: yeah
(10:14 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(10:15 PM) Chris revealed OM 1 on Nilf
(10:15 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(10:15 PM) Cleon revealed OM 2 on Isamu
(10:16 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(10:17 PM) Chris revealed OM 2 on Nilf
(10:18 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(10:18 PM) Cleon revealed OM 3 on Isamu
(10:18 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(10:19 PM) Chris revealed OM 3 on Nilf
(10:19 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(10:19 PM)User Chris has set all Order Markers.
(10:20 PM) Cleon: I've played ornak so wrong I forgot he has 6 move haha. really need to play with the cards in front of me
(10:22 PM)User Cleon has set all Order Markers.
(10:22 PM)User Chris reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Nilf 1 OM on Nilf 1 OM on Nilf 1 OM on Raelin
(10:22 PM) Chris rolled 14 for initiative
(10:22 PM)User Cleon reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Isamu 1 OM on Isamu 1 OM on Ornak 1 OM on Ornak
(10:22 PM) Cleon rolled 20 for initiative
(10:22 PM) Cleon revealed OM 1 on Ornak
(10:23 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(10:23 PM) Chris revealed OM 1 on Raelin
(10:23 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(10:24 PM) Cleon revealed OM 2 on Ornak
(10:25 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(10:25 PM) Chris revealed OM 2 on Nilf
(10:25 PM) Chris rolled 2 skulls with 6 total dice
(10:25 PM) Cleon rolled 0 shields with 3 total dice
(10:25 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(10:25 PM) Cleon revealed OM 3 on Isamu
(10:27 PM) Cleon: can I go from the 3 lava to the 5 lava?
(10:28 PM) Chris: this turn or with Vanish 9?
(10:28 PM) Cleon: I think its a weird disconnected overhang
(10:28 PM) Chris: oh just in general
(10:28 PM) Chris: no idea, have never seen the map from the side
(10:28 PM) Chris: I'm fine with saying you can do that
(10:28 PM) Chris: I would have assumed so if you didn't say anything anyways
(10:28 PM) Cleon: checking...
(10:29 PM) Cleon: Nah, I don't think you can
(10:29 PM) Cleon: lame
(10:29 PM) Chris: huh, interesting
(10:29 PM) Chris: good to know for Online Con then
(10:29 PM)The turn/action of Cleon is done.
(10:30 PM) Chris revealed OM 3 on Nilf
(10:30 PM) Chris rolled 2 skulls with 6 total dice
(10:30 PM) Cleon: yeah it's a weird aspect
(10:30 PM) Cleon rolled 0 shields with 3 total dice
(10:30 PM)The turn/action of Chris is done.
(10:30 PM) Chris rolled 0 skulls with 1 total dice
(10:30 PM) Chris rolled 1 skulls with 1 total dice
(10:30 PM) Chris: Now Isamu can 1-shot Nilf
(10:31 PM)User Chris has set all Order Markers.
(10:31 PM) Cleon: now he can 1-shot nilf
(10:31 PM) Chris: lol
(10:31 PM)User Cleon has set all Order Markers.
(10:31 PM)User Cleon reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Isamu 1 OM on Isamu 1 OM on Isamu 1 OM on Isamu
(10:31 PM) Cleon rolled 15 for initiative
(10:31 PM)User Chris reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Nilf 1 OM on Nilf 1 OM on Marcu 1 OM on Nilf
(10:31 PM) Chris rolled 15 for initiative
(10:31 PM)Chris rolled 9 on the d20
(10:31 PM)Cleon rolled 6 on the d20
(10:31 PM) Chris revealed OM 1 on Nilf
(10:32 PM) Chris rolled 3 skulls with 4 total dice
(10:32 PM)Cleon rolled 2 on the d20
(10:32 PM) Chris: gg
(10:32 PM) Cleon: Good game man, it was fun
(10:32 PM) Chris: it was, lots of twists and turns
(10:32 PM) Chris: although Krug definitely should have killed Nilf that turn
(10:32 PM) Cleon: im interested to see if krug killed nilf, how that endgame would've went
(10:33 PM) Chris: I think you win it
(10:33 PM) Cleon: yeah you had how many life left?
(10:33 PM) Chris: Krug goes and grabs Kelda next
(10:33 PM) Chris: I think I had 3 life left and only took 1 wound
(10:33 PM) Chris: or had 2 life left and took no wounds
(10:33 PM) Chris: but I lose 2 OMs if you kill Nilf
(10:33 PM) Cleon: it was round 3 though I think realin had a chance to kill him in the inniative
(10:33 PM) Chris: so you heal on Kelda, then engage Raelin
(10:34 PM) Chris: no, I would have lost my OM 2 & OM 3
(10:34 PM) Chris: was risky me putting all 3 on Nilf, frankly I probably should have had 3 on Marcu as a hedge
(10:34 PM) Cleon: I couldn't reach kelda though, realin could strike me I think
(10:34 PM) Chris: on yeah, you won init you're right.
(10:34 PM) Chris: forgot it was only 1 free om for you then
(10:35 PM) Cleon: yeah
(10:35 PM) Chris: maybe then. definitely a very different game
(10:35 PM) Cleon: I should be rolling 4.5 attack onto 2 defense so yeah that was pretty nuts you survived
(10:36 PM) Chris: yeah I should have died several times over that turn
(10:36 PM) Chris: that and my Hydra blocking like crazy on your OM2 were the biggest rolls for me
(10:36 PM) Chris: that saved Raelin
(10:36 PM) Cleon: should've had ornak here for sure
(10:37 PM) Chris: yeah he needed to be postured forward
(10:37 PM) Chris: Q9 hits him there, but that's worth it for you
(10:37 PM) Chris: I should have had OM3 on Nilf in round 1 as a hedge against the Hydra charge
(10:37 PM) Cleon: or 1 space over, I forgot red flag had an aura
(10:37 PM) Chris: I wish red flag was better
(10:37 PM) Chris: no aura or more than 1 OM per round
(10:38 PM) Chris: it's a really neat power to break up squad scape if it was stronger
(10:38 PM) Cleon: yeah
(10:38 PM) Cleon: hydras are good enough though lol
(10:38 PM) Chris: but it's really only 2 turns the whole game you get to move both (Round 1 & 2 OM's 1)
(10:39 PM) Chris: cause I'm never moving my army near Ornak when it's a mele hydra based army
(10:39 PM) Chris: unless I have bonding mele
(10:39 PM) Cleon: could run more than 2 hydras or range with it to lure
(10:40 PM) Cleon: I played 3 hydras last gencon I went to and sacrificing a hydra for another to go off is totally worth it
(10:40 PM) Chris: could. probably needs to be an utgar dragon for range so Ornak can activate them
(10:40 PM) Chris: Ornak, Hydra x2, Moltenclaw?
(10:41 PM) Cleon: Mimring's nice at 8 range
(10:41 PM) Chris: but then your entire army is double spaced. can get painful on some maps
(10:41 PM) Cleon: true
(10:41 PM) Chris: but on maps where that isn't an issue or it isn't lava then Mimring is definitely better
(10:41 PM) Cleon: that's why im not huge on the hounds
(10:42 PM) Chris: yeah a map like this for hounds would be painful
(10:42 PM) Cleon: I think there's too many things they depend on in total
(10:43 PM) Cleon: how do you feel about the other maps
(10:43 PM) Chris: haven't looked at them much yet
(10:43 PM) Chris: let me pull them up real quick
(10:44 PM) Chris: never been a huge fan of platypus
(10:45 PM) Chris: bad moon rising I've had mostly good interesting games on. in general I like shadow based centers of the map for helping mele
(10:45 PM) Chris: never played on drudgery
(10:45 PM) Cleon: I've never played on a few, drudgery's one
(10:45 PM) Chris: I don't think I've played on Caldera either
(10:46 PM) Chris: played Drauger plenty, nothing against it
(10:46 PM) Cleon: caldera was pretty good when I played on it I think
(10:46 PM) Chris: Platypus is just a bit too strong for Raelin + range. you only need to block like 1 space and you have height + no way to advance
(10:47 PM) Chris: Raelin + Q9 + Rats is even more disgusting than normal on it
(10:47 PM) Cleon: on caldera the plateau might be worrisome when I played on it we had mostly melee
(10:47 PM) Cleon: I've never played platypus but I know its popular
(10:47 PM) Chris: it would take range a while to move up there though
(10:48 PM) Chris: and the shadow helps mitigate it a bit
(10:48 PM) Cleon: Dragons/AE is what I worry about
(10:48 PM) Chris: that's fair. round 1 AE would be quite strong
(10:49 PM) Chris: never been a huge fan of fire isles either. don't like glyphs separated by water
(10:49 PM) Chris: unless there's a start zone space on the island with them
(10:49 PM) Cleon: I think the rock is at 3/4 level, so it's takes a bit to get up there
(10:50 PM) Cleon: Fire Isles is funny, its an old one and I'd think it would be a bit dated now but it still holds up pretty well. I don't love it but I don't hate it when its in a map pool
(10:50 PM) Cleon: not the best map but I don't think it's bad
(10:51 PM) Chris: Drudgery looks fun. lots of spots for tough choices
(10:52 PM) Cleon: with caldera there's both shadow and jungle though so that helps
(10:52 PM) Cleon: yeah it's a flash map and he's an amazing map maker
(10:53 PM) Chris: I've found giving flash the benefit of the doubt to be a good choice
(10:53 PM) Chris: don't think I've ever disliked a flash map I've played a tourney game on
(10:54 PM) Cleon: I wanted to play on ruins of rennoc the last NE tournament but unfortunately it was the one I didn'tt play on
(10:55 PM) Chris: I've played on that one, online game I think. Don't remember if I played on it at the NE tourney or not
(10:55 PM) superfrog has logged in!
(10:56 PM) Chris: hey frog
(10:56 PM) superfrog: dok pulled out an ancient one here
(10:56 PM) Chris: thanks for making this map
(10:56 PM) superfrog: this map is from 2009
(10:56 PM) Cleon: what's up superfrog
(10:56 PM) Chris: glad to get some practice in on it
(10:56 PM) superfrog: yeah no problem
(10:56 PM) Cleon: really? I don't think I've ever seen it before
(10:57 PM) superfrog: It's been used in one tourney ever that I can find.
(10:57 PM) superfrog: Hexes in Texas 2009
(10:57 PM) Chris: yep I definitely was not there :)
(10:57 PM) Cleon: haha me neither
(10:58 PM) Cleon: are you playing in the prep tournament super frog?
(10:58 PM) superfrog: I am not, I'm out on vacation
(10:58 PM) Cleon: oh
(10:59 PM) superfrog: at least I will be lol
(10:59 PM) Cleon: trying to come up with a 4 army lineup I like
(11:00 PM) Cleon: might bust out Runa in one lol
(11:00 PM) superfrog: Chris was the first submission
(11:00 PM) Chris: nice, didn't know that
(11:00 PM) superfrog: 3 of his 4 armies have been exactly duplicated already
(11:00 PM) Chris: I went with cheese armies, I'm boring
(11:00 PM) Chris: only 3?
(11:01 PM) Chris: Huh. No I wonder which one wasn't
(11:01 PM) Chris: *No -> Now
(11:01 PM) Cleon: how many people have entered? and who
(11:01 PM) Chris: How many sign-ups so far?
(11:01 PM) superfrog: .... only 5 right now
(11:02 PM) superfrog: one of your armies has 300 points in common with 2 other armies
(11:02 PM) Chris: well that narrows it down to 2 armies then
(11:03 PM) Chris: I like the guessing game, this is good
(11:03 PM) Chris: more should sign up closer to the deadline
(11:03 PM) Chris: probably waiting to finalize armies
(11:03 PM) Cleon: I'm waiting on that
(11:04 PM) superfrog: yeah we'll get more.
(11:04 PM) Chris: hoping for 40+, that would be a fun size. maybe not for the prep event though
(11:04 PM) Chris: guessing attendance for these seems difficult though
(11:04 PM) superfrog: yeah, maybe for the main event we'll get 40 or so
(11:05 PM) Chris: oh I've been meaning to ask - if you lose in rd 1 of day 2 of main, can you enter rainbow wars?
(11:06 PM) Chris: I'd assume so but checking is good
(11:06 PM) superfrog: i think so too but I'm not carrying the most weight here
(11:06 PM) superfrog: you can ask in the thread, I think vegie knows
(11:06 PM) Chris: I'll ask there. good clarification for more people to have as well
(11:07 PM) superfrog: hopefully I'll get the last two maps up next week
(11:08 PM) Cleon: I kinda wanna run zombies but there's not really a build I like at 400
(11:09 PM) Chris: zombies x5 + 100 pts?
(11:09 PM) superfrog: zombies x5, Krav
(11:09 PM) Cleon: yeah that's basically it
(11:09 PM) Chris: yeah krav is good there
(11:09 PM) Cleon: or syvarris
(11:09 PM) superfrog: it's interesting to see where people plug their "fillers"
(11:10 PM) Chris: and where they plug their Raelin :)
(11:10 PM) superfrog: Raelin, Krav, Marcu
(11:10 PM) Cleon: and shiori, she's a must
(11:11 PM) superfrog: there you go
(11:11 PM) superfrog: just have Shiori and nothing else
(11:11 PM) Chris: I tried to get a Nilf army going for a while in my 4x400 build, think I ran it against you about a year ago superfrog, but it needs Raelin too much
(11:12 PM) Chris: Nilf, Green x2, MWs, Eldgrim
(11:12 PM) superfrog: yeah that's a start
(11:12 PM) Chris: or some other filler, might not have been eldgrim
(11:12 PM) superfrog: isnt' that 385?
(11:12 PM) Cleon: I'd maybe lead with MW in that honestly
(11:12 PM) Chris: yeah i just added it up too, must have had Isamu in it also
(11:13 PM) Chris: cause nothing for 45 is really worth it
(11:13 PM) Chris: I kept running it into ranged commons. Played superfrog with 10th x4, Marcus and hit stingers x4 in the NE tournament