(1:03 AM) Sir Heroscape: and do you know the glyphs?
(1:03 AM)Sir Heroscape rolled 2 on the d20
(1:03 AM)Grey Waves rolled 13 on the d20
(1:03 AM) Grey Waves: zawit and wannok I believe
(1:04 AM) Grey Waves: you can place first
(1:04 AM) Sir Heroscape: aight
(1:05 AM) Sir Heroscape: oh lol need my figures
(1:05 AM) Sir Heroscape: 1 sec
(1:14 AM)The turn/action of Sir Heroscape is done.
(1:19 AM) Grey Waves is done with their turn/action.
(1:19 AM)User Grey Waves has set all Order Markers.
(1:20 AM)User Sir Heroscape has set all Order Markers.
(1:20 AM) Grey Waves: gl hf
(1:20 AM)User Sir Heroscape reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Bees 1 OM on Protectors 1 OM on Bees 1 OM on Bees
(1:20 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 3 for initiative
(1:20 AM)User Grey Waves reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on TSAs 1 OM on TSAs 1 OM on TSAs 1 OM on Raelin
(1:20 AM) Grey Waves rolled 18 for initiative
(1:20 AM) Grey Waves revealed OM 1 on TSAs
(1:20 AM) Sir Heroscape: same to you
(1:25 AM)The turn/action of Grey Waves is done.
(1:25 AM) Sir Heroscape revealed OM 1 on Bees
(1:27 AM)The turn/action of Sir Heroscape is done.
(1:27 AM) Grey Waves revealed OM 2 on TSAs
(1:27 AM) Sir Heroscape has logged in!
(1:32 AM) Sir Heroscape: yeah
(1:34 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 skulls with 2 total dice
(1:34 AM) Sir Heroscape: i can't see the attack
(1:34 AM) Sir Heroscape: can you highlight?
(1:34 AM) Grey Waves: oh it's because they've got a blue border lol
(1:35 AM) Grey Waves: is that any better?
(1:35 AM) Sir Heroscape: I'm not seeing anything...let me refresh my page
(1:35 AM) Sir Heroscape has logged in!
(1:36 AM) Grey Waves: any better?
(1:36 AM) Grey Waves: can you see it?
(1:36 AM) Sir Heroscape: nope...can you highlight again?
(1:37 AM) Grey Waves: I'm highlighting them right now, weird
(1:37 AM) Sir Heroscape: my page is acting really weird
(1:37 AM) Grey Waves: well, I was attacking with the topmost TSA on Sujoah
(1:37 AM) Sir Heroscape: let me log out completely from the OHS app
User Sir Heroscape has left the chat session.
(1:37 AM) Grey Waves: sure
(1:39 AM) Grey Waves has logged in!
(1:40 AM) Sir Heroscape has logged in!
(1:40 AM) Grey Waves: I'm highlighting both the TSA and Sujoah right now
(1:41 AM) Grey Waves: if you can't see it, fine, we'll just have to make do
(1:41 AM) Sir Heroscape: I can now
(1:41 AM) Sir Heroscape: that was weird
(1:41 AM) Grey Waves: great
(1:41 AM) Grey Waves: you have 5 defence
(1:41 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 2 shields with 5 total dice
(1:41 AM) Grey Waves rolled 2 skulls with 2 total dice
(1:42 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 2 shields with 4 total dice
(1:42 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 skulls with 2 total dice
(1:42 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 1 shields with 5 total dice
(1:42 AM) Grey Waves is done with their turn/action.
(1:43 AM) Grey Waves: your turn
(1:43 AM) Sir Heroscape revealed OM 2 on Bees
(1:44 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(1:44 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 2 skulls with 4 total dice
(1:44 AM) Grey Waves rolled 2 shields with 4 total dice
(1:45 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(1:45 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 2 skulls with 4 total dice
(1:45 AM) Grey Waves rolled 2 shields with 4 total dice
(1:45 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(1:45 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 1 skulls with 4 total dice
(1:46 AM) Grey Waves rolled 0 shields with 4 total dice
(1:46 AM)The turn/action of Sir Heroscape is done.
(1:46 AM) Grey Waves revealed OM 3 on TSAs
(1:48 AM) Grey Waves: the TSA here can hit Sujoah
(1:48 AM) Sir Heroscape: yep
(1:48 AM) Grey Waves: cool just wanted to make sure we're on the smae page
(1:49 AM) Grey Waves: also LOS ok?
(1:49 AM) Sir Heroscape: yeah
(1:49 AM) Grey Waves: great
(1:49 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 skulls with 2 total dice
(1:49 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 1 shields with 4 total dice
(1:49 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 skulls with 2 total dice
(1:49 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 1 shields with 5 total dice
(1:49 AM) Grey Waves is done with their turn/action.
(1:50 AM) Sir Heroscape revealed OM 3 on Bees
(1:52 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(1:52 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 2 skulls with 4 total dice
(1:52 AM) Grey Waves rolled 0 shields with 4 total dice
(1:55 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(1:55 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 2 skulls with 4 total dice
(1:55 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 shields with 4 total dice
(1:55 AM) Sir Heroscape: normal
(1:55 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 1 skulls with 2 total dice
(1:55 AM) Grey Waves rolled 2 shields with 3 total dice
(1:56 AM)The turn/action of Sir Heroscape is done.
(1:56 AM)Grey Waves rolled 17 on the d20
(1:57 AM)User Sir Heroscape has set all Order Markers.
(1:57 AM)User Grey Waves has set all Order Markers.
(1:57 AM)User Grey Waves reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on TSAs 1 OM on TSAs 1 OM on TSAs 1 OM on Raelin
(1:57 AM) Grey Waves rolled 8 for initiative
(1:57 AM)User Sir Heroscape reveals Order Markers:
1 OM on Bees 1 OM on Bees 1 OM on Protectors 1 OM on Bees
(1:57 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 18 for initiative
(1:57 AM) Sir Heroscape revealed OM 1 on Bees
(2:00 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(2:00 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 4 skulls with 4 total dice
(2:00 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(2:00 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 0 skulls with 4 total dice
(2:00 AM) Sir Heroscape: normal
(2:00 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 0 skulls with 2 total dice
(2:00 AM) Sir Heroscape: normal
(2:00 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 1 skulls with 2 total dice
(2:01 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 shields with 2 total dice
(2:01 AM)The turn/action of Sir Heroscape is done.
(2:01 AM) Grey Waves revealed OM 1 on TSAs
(2:01 AM) Sir Heroscape: yeah
(2:04 AM) Sir Heroscape: probably
(2:05 AM) Grey Waves rolled 2 skulls with 3 total dice
(2:05 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 1 shields with 4 total dice
(2:06 AM) Grey Waves rolled 2 skulls with 2 total dice
(2:06 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 0 shields with 2 total dice
(2:06 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 skulls with 2 total dice
(2:06 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 2 shields with 4 total dice
(2:06 AM)The turn/action of Grey Waves is done.
(2:06 AM) Sir Heroscape revealed OM 2 on Bees
(2:08 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(2:08 AM) Grey Waves: which one?
(2:08 AM) Grey Waves: gotcha
(2:08 AM) Sir Heroscape: back guy
(2:08 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 1 skulls with 4 total dice
(2:08 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 shields with 4 total dice
(2:09 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(2:09 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 3 skulls with 4 total dice
(2:09 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 shields with 4 total dice
(2:09 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(2:09 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 2 skulls with 4 total dice
(2:09 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 shields with 3 total dice
(2:09 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(2:09 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 3 skulls with 4 total dice
(2:09 AM) Grey Waves rolled 3 shields with 4 total dice
(2:10 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(2:10 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 2 skulls with 4 total dice
(2:10 AM) Grey Waves rolled 0 shields with 4 total dice
(2:10 AM)The turn/action of Sir Heroscape is done.
(2:10 AM) Grey Waves revealed OM 2 on TSAs
(2:11 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 skulls with 3 total dice
(2:11 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 3 shields with 4 total dice
(2:12 AM) Grey Waves rolled 2 skulls with 2 total dice
(2:12 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 1 shields with 4 total dice
(2:12 AM) Grey Waves: attacking with the other one I moved
(2:12 AM) Grey Waves rolled 0 skulls with 2 total dice
(2:12 AM)The turn/action of Grey Waves is done.
(2:12 AM) Sir Heroscape revealed OM 3 on Bees
(2:13 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(2:13 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 1 skulls with 4 total dice
(2:13 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 shields with 4 total dice
(2:13 AM) Sir Heroscape: SA
(2:13 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 2 skulls with 4 total dice
(2:13 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 shields with 4 total dice
(2:14 AM)The turn/action of Sir Heroscape is done.
(2:14 AM) Grey Waves: am I going crazy or am I missing a TSA?
(2:15 AM) Sir Heroscape: there was a duplicate under my bee
(2:15 AM) Grey Waves: I count 3 on the board and 7 that are dead
(2:15 AM) Sir Heroscape: I think you just copied it
(2:15 AM) Grey Waves: I should have 11 though
(2:15 AM) Grey Waves: unless you've deleted one of them when you destroyed it?
(2:16 AM) Sir Heroscape: erm...I don't think so
(2:16 AM) Sir Heroscape: it might have been unintentional?
(2:16 AM) Sir Heroscape: idk...
(2:16 AM) Sir Heroscape: oh wait
(2:17 AM) Grey Waves: what is it?
(2:17 AM) Sir Heroscape: I think I might have
(2:17 AM) Grey Waves: deleted one?
(2:17 AM) Sir Heroscape: yeah
(2:17 AM) Grey Waves: ok that's all good
(2:17 AM) Grey Waves: just wanted to make sure I didn't start the game with only 10 of them or something
(2:17 AM) Grey Waves revealed OM 3 on TSAs
(2:17 AM) Sir Heroscape: I know you didn't start with 10
(2:17 AM) Sir Heroscape: and I'm pretty sure we've been accurate up to this point
(2:18 AM) Sir Heroscape: but yeah, I vaguely remember you not removing it so i just deletedit
(2:18 AM) Sir Heroscape: my bad
(2:18 AM) Grey Waves: dw about it
(2:18 AM) Grey Waves: that TSA is on the ladder
(2:18 AM) Sir Heroscape: where was the TSA before?
(2:18 AM) Grey Waves rolled 1 skulls with 3 total dice
(2:18 AM) Sir Heroscape: okay
(2:18 AM) Sir Heroscape: yep
(2:19 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 0 shields with 4 total dice
(2:19 AM) Grey Waves rolled 3 skulls with 3 total dice
(2:19 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 1 shields with 4 total dice
(2:19 AM) Grey Waves rolled 2 skulls with 3 total dice
(2:19 AM) Sir Heroscape rolled 1 shields with 4 total dice
(2:19 AM) Grey Waves: oof
(2:19 AM) Sir Heroscape: of course you would
(2:19 AM)The turn/action of Grey Waves is done.
(2:19 AM) Sir Heroscape: gg
(2:19 AM) Grey Waves: gg
(2:19 AM) Grey Waves: rough matchup for you that's for sure
(2:20 AM) Sir Heroscape: 100%
(2:20 AM) Sir Heroscape: not feeling great about it, but if bees can trade and Sujoah can hang tight and be annoying vs Sneaks then protectors can cleanup
(2:20 AM) Grey Waves: Sacrificial Sting 100% is great when your opponent only has a few commons but it's not so great when your opponent has more squaddies than you do
(2:20 AM) Grey Waves: yeah I agree with your assessment
(2:21 AM) Sir Heroscape: that was the turn I needed not to happen just there
(2:21 AM) Grey Waves: actually on second thoughts
(2:22 AM) Grey Waves: I agree that Sujoah dying there was bad for you
(2:22 AM) Grey Waves: I don't think it changed the outcome though
(2:22 AM) Sir Heroscape: without getting a couple more TSA's, no. I needed to get you down to 2
(2:23 AM) Sir Heroscape: so you'd switch to sneaks, then I could try and just engage and block with Sujoah
(2:23 AM) Sir Heroscape: while protectors develop and shoot
(2:23 AM) Grey Waves: Sujoah could go after the beakfaces in my SZ, but she can't engage all of them at once, and as long as I attack her with at least one beakface, then I can use flocking to develop the other ones into the center of the board, then go after the protectors
(2:23 AM) Sir Heroscape: yeah, fair point
(2:24 AM) Sir Heroscape: both TSA's and Sneaks counter the protectors
(2:24 AM) Grey Waves: I was a little worried about you opening with protectors to nuke Raelin out of the game
(2:24 AM) Sir Heroscape: so either way, my bees and sujoah have to do more
(2:24 AM) Sir Heroscape: nah, protectors are too slow
(2:24 AM) Sir Heroscape: regardless of how you open you counter them
(2:24 AM) Sir Heroscape: I need them to cleanup whatever is left
(2:24 AM) Grey Waves: oh that's right, they only have 4 move without atlaga
(2:25 AM) Grey Waves: forgot about that
(2:25 AM) Sir Heroscape: I really enjoyed my army in this...felt like Sujoah had some great potential and really carried me in some games
(2:26 AM) Sir Heroscape: but it was very dependent on bees getting early trades with the opponent
(2:26 AM) Sir Heroscape: and the armies in the playoffs just get better trades
(2:26 AM) Grey Waves: Sujoah + bees is definitely a good core for this format
(2:28 AM) Grey Waves: it's fantastic at killing stuff like Bram and bees are cheap enough that while you're not necessarily advantaged in trades against opposing army, it's usually going to be at least somewhat close
(2:29 AM) Grey Waves: *opposing armies
(2:29 AM) Sir Heroscape: and many of my games were. Sujoah was just a tank in most where I was able to pull it out. Protectors were great cleanup in a lot of games too. I beat Megasilver's army round 1
(2:29 AM) Sir Heroscape: TSA's and Armocs
(2:29 AM) Grey Waves: ooh nice
(2:29 AM) Sir Heroscape: tough matchup...but I got the trades I needed with bees and sujoah hung around enough to engage armocs in the endgame
(2:30 AM) Sir Heroscape: so,it can keep up with these playoff armies, but the margin of error is very thin
(2:30 AM) Grey Waves: I think my army is probably your worst matchup amongst the top 8 to be sure
(2:31 AM) Sir Heroscape: yeah...protectors are pretty worthless into it. I mean, they could win...but it'd take some insane dice to allow that to happen
(2:32 AM) Grey Waves: yeah sneaks kind of eat protectors for breakfast
(2:32 AM) Grey Waves: actually, you could have led protectors and then just picked off the TSAs as they were developing
(2:33 AM) Grey Waves: then rely moreso on Sujoah + the bees' normal attack to kill the sneaks
(2:33 AM) Sir Heroscape: I thought about it...but you outrange me...I didn't like that prospect as much
(2:33 AM) Sir Heroscape: and I didn't wanna be countered out the gate if you led sneaks to establish a melee "front"
(2:33 AM) Grey Waves: yeah you need dice to help you if you go down that path
(2:33 AM) Grey Waves: and that's also true about me leading sneaks as well
(2:34 AM) Sir Heroscape: Bees can trade into whatever you lead with
(2:34 AM) Sir Heroscape: protectors can't...so I have to lead bees and hope they trade well enough to leave protectors in cleanup
(2:35 AM) Grey Waves: I think the protectors are bad enough into the sneaks in the endgame that it may have been a path worth pursuing
(2:35 AM) Sir Heroscape: yeah, that's fair
(2:35 AM) Sir Heroscape: +1 range on TSA doesn't guarentee being countered
(2:35 AM) Sir Heroscape: I still have flying mobility
(2:35 AM) Sir Heroscape: so easier for me to take height
(2:36 AM) Grey Waves: yes that's a big advantage the protectors have
(2:36 AM) Sir Heroscape: and your base attack is 2 so 2v4 feels pretty good into protectors
(2:36 AM) Grey Waves: you'd need dice to go your way, but you need the dice to go your way anyway if you lead bees so *shrugs*
(2:36 AM) Sir Heroscape: right
(2:36 AM) Grey Waves: either either
(2:36 AM) Sir Heroscape: tough either way, I just have to pick the poison I want to swallow
(2:37 AM) Grey Waves: 'pick your poison' yeah haha lol
(2:37 AM) Grey Waves: anyway I should probably let you go to bed
(2:38 AM) Grey Waves: (dunno if the poison pun was intentional but nicely done if it was)
(2:38 AM) Sir Heroscape: lol
(2:38 AM) Sir Heroscape: not really...but glad it worked
(2:39 AM) Sir Heroscape: and yeah...I should go. but thanks for being patient