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Old February 22nd, 2023, 10:36 PM
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Iron Man (Tony Stark)

Iron Man (Tony Stark)



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NAME = IRON MAN
IDENTITY = TONY STARK

UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
SPECIES = HUMAN
CLASS = VISIONARY
PERSONALITY = SARCASTIC

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 270


AVENGERS UNITED
During setup, you may add up to 3 allied Unique Heroes to the Avengers faction. Instead of Iron Man's ordered activation, you may activate up to 2 Avengers that have not been activated by this ability this round, and then your turn ends.

COMMS ADVANTAGE
Iron Man and all allied Avengers are considered in clear sight of each other. If you won initiative this round, enemies within 5 clear spaces of Iron Man have -1 Defense when defending against Avengers.

DOUBLE ATTACK
Iron Man may attack twice per normal attack action.

FACTION = AVENGERS
PUBLISHER = MARVEL
KEYWORDS = Power Armor, Science
SYMBOLS = FLYING, SUPER STRENGTH
WORLDS COLLIDE: Genius. Billionaire. Philanthropist. Tony Stark's confidence is only matched by his high-flying abilities as the hero called Iron Man!

Resources and Rulings
  • The suggested figure for this unit is a Heroclix figure: Marvel 10th Anniversary #009 / Iron Man
  • See this card's wiki page for synergies and strategies!
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Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.

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Old February 22nd, 2023, 10:37 PM
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Re: Iron Man (Tony Start) - Design phase

So here is where we landed.

Second power is up for debate. There was speak of getting something of a personality in here.

Also Class change to Leader was brought up to allow for a different Illuminati Tony

Complete with Comic Creator, Blurb, and figure info for you Bats

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old February 23rd, 2023, 12:57 AM
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Re: Iron Man (Tony Start) - Design phase

You have a double period at the end of the first power. Extra space before the bullets in the 3rd. And at one point Bats was trying to have each blurb end with a "!" for at least the Avengers in the Starter Deck. Not sure if he was wanting that for all Starter Deck cards, or all cards in total.

I do think the Illuminati should have it's own specific Iron Man card rather than try to use the Avengers one. Reed/Black Bolt/Prof X/Namor all have their own cards at this point and don't use a card from a different faction.
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Old February 23rd, 2023, 01:23 AM
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Re: Iron Man (Tony Start) - Design phase

Just what does Tony start?


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Re: Iron Man (Tony Start) - Design phase

You need the recruitment verbiage in there.

I'm likely to just use this version for Illuminati builds unless there's a take for an Illuminati version that too will be a bonding leader for the faction that is more fitting and more effective for them. This one brings reliability, so it should be good enough until that potential day comes.
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Re: Iron Man (Tony Start) - Design phase

Arkham brings up an interesting point. You can always just draft this Iron Man with no other Avenger's cards and/or limit your recruits. Can you even choose not to recruit a support figure and avoid having to use them because they aren't an Avenger?

Just an example trying to figure out how it would work in action.

Iron Man 270 + Hasbro Hulk 370 + Hasbro Thanos 360 = 1000

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OM2: Iron Man & Thanos (or Hulk)
OM3: Hulk & Thanos again since everyone has been used once?
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Re: Iron Man (Tony Start) - Design phase

The requirement that at least one has to be one you haven't activated yet this round doesn't lift just because you don't have options to fill that requirement. If there are no figures you haven't activated yet, there are no figures you can activate with the ability.

The first ability need both the recruitment language and something to cut off additional turns (your turn ends type language works).

The third bullet point of the last ability should probably go with damage die. I'd say adjacent to the defender also, because unless they're actually defending the attack, the splash damage doesn't happen, I believe.

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Re: Iron Man (Tony Start) - Design phase

Dang copy-paste error. I’ll get that later. Phone posting today.

Tony Start was a pun. Wasn’t expecting this one to be quick.

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Re: Iron Man (Tony Start) - Design phase

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The requirement that at least one has to be one you haven't activated yet this round doesn't lift just because you don't have options to fill that requirement. If there are no figures you haven't activated yet, there are no figures you can activate with the ability.

The first ability need both the recruitment language and something to cut off additional turns (your turn ends type language works).

The third bullet point of the last ability should probably go with damage die. I'd say adjacent to the defender also, because unless they're actually defending the attack, the splash damage doesn't happen, I believe.
I'm glad we had this talk, cause that wasn't what I was getting from that text. If that is the intent, that's good to know and I'll see if I can come up with a clearer wording for the power. If not, we may need to FAQ it.

As for the 3rd bullet point, I believe a discussion came up somewhere else about figures that move when attacked.

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Re: Iron Man (Tony Start) - Design phase

AVENGERS UNITED
If there is at least 1 Order Marker on this card, instead of an ordered activation with a Unique Hero in the Avengers faction, you may activate up to 2 Unique Heroes in the Avengers faction. Figures can only be chosen for this ability once per round.
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Re: Iron Man (Tony Start) - Design phase

That’s not the intent. You can activate a figure more than once, so long as at least one figure you are activating is being activated for the first time.

Maybe we should let him activate one no matter what and a second only if it’s being activated for the first time? Very close effect and probably easier to parse.

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Re: Iron Man (Tony Start) - Design phase

I favor going back to the once per round, 3 Avengers get activated ability and see if that can hit the 270 price point. That ability is really good and this take is more complex than it's worth IMO.
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