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Old November 12th, 2022, 05:07 PM
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Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards)

Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards)



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NAME = MISTER FANTASTIC
IDENTITY = REED RICHARDS

UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
SPECIES = MUTATE
CLASS = ADVENTURER
PERSONALITY = BRILLIANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 7

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 2
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 235


FANTASTIC LEADER 4
Before an ordered activation with Mister Fantastic, you may roll a d20. On a:
• 4-11, activate 1 other Adventurer Hero;
• 12-17, activate up to 2 other Adventurer Heroes; or
• 18+, activate up to 3 other Adventurer Heroes.
You may not activate additional figures this turn.

STRETCH WALK SPECIAL MOVE
Move 3. Height 25.
Mister Fantastic gains Flying and Stealth.

RUBBER WRAP
When a Small, Medium, or Large enemy adjacent to Mister Fantastic would move, you may stop its movement.

FACTION = FANTASTIC FOUR
PUBLISHER = MARVEL
KEYWORDS = Science
SYMBOLS = SUPER STRENGTH
WORLDS COLLIDE: Genius Reed Richards leads the Fantastic Four with the ability to stretch around a problem and expand upon the perfect solution.

Resources and Rulings
  • The suggested figure for this unit is a Heroclix figure: Fantastic Forces #079-081 / Mr. Fantastic, #207 / Reed Richards
  • See this card's wiki page for synergies and strategies!
Credits
  • Legacy design: Griffin
  • Card art: Arkham
  • Comic creators: Jack Kirby and Stan Lee
Updates
  • N/A

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.

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Old November 12th, 2022, 05:10 PM
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Re: Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards)

Wording and Science as a keyword.

Main discussion is Rubber Wrap and deciding what we want it to stop and what we don't and how to word it so that it accomplishes that

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old November 12th, 2022, 05:20 PM
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Re: Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards)

Brilliant personality feels like a bit of a triple-dip for a Scientist with the Science keyword, but not something I'd make a fuss about.

Streamlining FL4 a bit:

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FANTASTIC LEADER 4
Before an ordered activation with Mister Fantastic, you may roll a d20. If you roll:
4-11, activate one Adventurer Hero;
12-17, activate up to two Adventurer Heroes; or
18 or higher, activate up to three Adventurer Heroes.
I imagine other folks will be more opinionated on what kinds of moves Reed should be able to stop. I'd advise trimming the fat at the end of the power whatever we do though:

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RUBBER WRAP
Small or medium enemy figures adjacent to Mister Fantastic may not move or be moved by any ability.
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Old November 12th, 2022, 05:26 PM
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Re: Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards)

I did find an interesting personality labeling and saw Reed was ENTJ

Intuitive came to mind if we wanted to go away from Brilliant.

I like the changes @Ronin BTW.

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Re: Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards)

Agreed with Ronin's edits, that last bit on Rubber Wrap stood out to me.

We do have some minor Brilliant synergies, FWIW. Might switch those over to something else in 2.0, of course.

Edit - Also, Rubber Wrap and Stuck (from Blob & Tar Pit) are the same power in 1.0 right now. Do we want to consolidate those into a single name?

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Old November 13th, 2022, 12:42 AM
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Re: Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards)

Inquisitive or Obsessive would be the other personalities worth considering, IMO.

For Rubber Wrap, it's a mechanical change, but I really wouldn't mind doing something like this:

RUBBER WRAP
Small or medium enemy figures adjacent to Mister Fantastic may not make move actions.

That way they couldn't use normal moves, special moves, or maneuvers to get away from him, but throw/place abilities could get them away (which opens up teleportation as an out).

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Old November 13th, 2022, 10:04 AM
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Re: Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards)

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Originally Posted by IAmBatman View Post
Inquisitive or Obsessive would be the other personalities worth considering, IMO.

For Rubber Wrap, it's a mechanical change, but I really wouldn't mind doing something like this:

RUBBER WRAP
Small or medium enemy figures adjacent to Mister Fantastic may not make move actions.

That way they couldn't use normal moves, special moves, or maneuvers to get away from him, but throw/place abilities could get them away (which opens up teleportation as an out).
Teleportation is the big one I think deserves it.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards)

Personally I wouldn't make that change for Reed's - letting teleports through is a big nerf to the design given how much a FF build relies on him being able to block for Sue.

(Blob could use a nerf anyway, so sure, full speed ahead on letting teleports get away from that guy)
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Re: Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards)

Yeah, maybe that's a better change to make on Blob's to help with differentiation. Theoretically Reed could have planned for such strategies more effectively anyhow.

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Re: Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards)

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Originally Posted by IAmBatman View Post
Inquisitive or Obsessive would be the other personalities worth considering, IMO.

For Rubber Wrap, it's a mechanical change, but I really wouldn't mind doing something like this:

RUBBER WRAP
Small or medium enemy figures adjacent to Mister Fantastic may not make move actions.

That way they couldn't use normal moves, special moves, or maneuvers to get away from him, but throw/place abilities could get them away (which opens up teleportation as an out).
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
Personally I wouldn't make that change for Reed's - letting teleports through is a big nerf to the design given how much a FF build relies on him being able to block for Sue.

(Blob could use a nerf anyway, so sure, full speed ahead on letting teleports get away from that guy)
So leave Rubber Wrap as you posted it and change Stuck to something like what Bat's has above?

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards)

Inquisitive or like…Distracted could be cool and say a little something more about the character. As Marvel’s #1 smarty man though, if a design should ever keep Brilliant it’s probably this one?

Something I’ve wondered before…does Reed need Super Strength?
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