Shiftrex Customs (06/04/22... New Wulfing Hunters)

[Shiftrex]

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WULFING HUNTERS
TUNDRA NOMADS

Frontal Assault - Heroes from Far and Wide (1/4)



The figures used are #001 and #014 from D&D ICEWIND DALE: RIME OF THE FROSTMAIDEN.

This thread is being reformatted a bit after seeing how some other users have cleaned up their threads. The showcased custom is the one I am currently playtesting and designing at the moment. Below you will find finished or serious customs organized and their original posts linked so that things are clean and tidy in the main post.

If you would like to play with any of my units OHS style then please look at this google doc that has the current figure's Army Card attached to a token using the ALT TEXT feature (ctrl+alt+y). You'll find things sorted by general and then by hero or squad as I slowly populate this: https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...GaKXGm-Ho/edit

BY GENERAL

Spoiler Alert!

Units with a * next to them are loaded onto the google doc with a matching token that reflects their current version.

Jandar

Ullar

* Abalin

Cave Gnome Bandits

* Wulfing Hunters

Vydar

Agent Faux

Cavac Hunter

Klakteel

Incursion

Skreek

Einar

Utgar

Fisc

Fomorian Twins

Fo-To-Ki-Ro

Kai-Mu

Trident Marshall

Aquilla

Giant Stag Beetle

Lepiota

Qildryn

Alun

Mycelium Warrior

Valkrill

Akhenaten

Drowned Thrall

Laughing Sam Carey

Otyugh

Poe

Xuè Shén

If you'd like me to playtest any of your units, I love doing that! I also try to give good feedback and play a few games with something if you are trying to get things just right.

If you see synergies that I have and I haven't noticed them, please let me know so that I don't do anything too crazy and if you wind up enjoying a unit from here then I'd also love to hear about it.

[Taeblewalker]

A special attack should have Range X, Attack Y.

[Shiftrex]

Categories

Western

Spoiler Alert!

Laughing Sam Carey

Laughing Sam Carey

is a historical figure from my region of the US, an Outlaw that rode with the Hole in the Wall Gang. I wanted to make a western figure that wasn't super famous but would have still had notoriety in his time.

The ability inspiration came from the fact that the current, official cowboys are all on foot and I wanted to make a mounted unit. However, the negative ability is attributed to Sam Carey being one of the only Outlaws to escape death or prison due to his life as a criminal.

My goal is for this figure to be a highly mobile unit that focuses on the Lasso ability that I've cooked up. This may be edited over time but I made it into two distinct abilities to give it more utility and to simplify it from being an unbroken wall of text. I'd love feedback on if this is powerful or useless because I haven't found an analog yet. Also, I've been told he should be Utgar rather than Valkrill even though I was going for some chaotic cruelty so I'm unsure on that point still.

Definitions for people unfamiliar with words: Lasso Draggle

The final ability on the card, You'll Never Catch Me, prevents this from being your last stand kiting unit while being on flavor and keeping his points reasonable and because of its wording it may win you a game where you are going for "points killed" instead of last man standing.

Miniature Ideas: Still looking as its very hard to find a prepainted, available miniature of a cowboy on horseback. Found lots of unpainted models though, most notably in the Dixon Miniature Catalogue.

[caps]

The wording of Lasso seems just a little off. Did you look at the Drow Chainfighter for wording?

It seems like his total move could be as high as 11 spaces? And he can auto-wound someone in addition to making an attack? Seems strong for 80 points.

I think the if condition on Draggle may be a conditions headache.

[Shiftrex]

Originally Posted by capsocrates

The wording of Lasso seems just a little off. Did you look at the Drow Chainfighter for wording?

It seems like his total move could be as high as 11 spaces? And he can auto-wound someone in addition to making an attack? Seems strong for 80 points.

I think the if condition on Draggle may be a conditions headache.

Yes, I checked chain fighter but didnt care so much about how high the targetted figure was because I didnt think many maps played with extreme height. I made the space you could be pulled to more lenient instead. That could be changed.

I can add an Instead of attack clause to draggle if it helps. Not sure why the If conditions are a headache. The first thing the ability checks is if you used lasso, pretty simple. The next tells you that you can only move within a certain range if the lasso'ed target can come with you essentially. Nothing complicated.

Is there better wording perhaps? I thought it was pretty, step by step. Though I'm definitely open to adjusting prices.

[caps]

"moved by the power of Lasso" just strikes me as odd. I don't think I've seen it before. I suspect you'd have less confusion by just using the Chainfighter wording. This wording being different makes me wonder if there's some sneaky difference I need to figure out, instead of just knowing that it works like the Chainfighter.

The chosen figure for Draggle takes leaving engagement attacks. So it could die when he tries to place the figure next to him. At which point it is no longer possible for him to use the power; the power that lead to the figure dying. Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

[Shiftrex]

Originally Posted by capsocrates

"moved by the power of Lasso" just strikes me as odd. I don't think I've seen it before. I suspect you'd have less confusion by just using the Chainfighter wording. This wording being different makes me wonder if there's some sneaky difference I need to figure out, instead of just knowing that it works like the Chainfighter.

The chosen figure for Draggle takes leaving engagement attacks. So it could die when he tries to place the figure next to him. At which point it is no longer possible for him to use the power; the power that lead to the figure dying. Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

Oh, if that's all the problem was then you should have said something lol. I didnt notice that, I'll just make both figures immune to LEAs during the movement. Thatll clean up, thanks for pointing that out.

[caps]

That was just one example (although admittedly the most likely-to-occur) of where "do X if Y is possible" powers break down.

I would merge the two into one power and remove the extra movement. As he's moving, have him roll for a figure within 2 spaces. When he ends his movement place the figure adjacent if he rolled high enough.

[Shiftrex]

Originally Posted by capsocrates

That was just one example (although admittedly the most likely-to-occur) of where "do X if Y is possible" powers break down.

I would merge the two into one power and remove the extra movement. As he's moving, have him roll for a figure within 2 spaces. When he ends his movement place the figure adjacent if he rolled high enough.

Thanks for the help, I copied the wording from Drow Chain fighter more closely, gave the figure disengage and combined the powers to make more sense.

[Taeblewalker]

For Lasso Draggle I would say "roll 2 additional dice if you attack the chosen figure this turn." Otherwise it reads like a special attack, minus the words "special attack."

[Shiftrex]

Originally Posted by Taeblewalker

For Lasso Draggle I would say "roll 2 additional dice if you attack the chosen figure this turn." Otherwise it reads like a special attack, minus the words "special attack."

I'd prefer not to just steroid an attack. Kinda breaks theme when its nit necessary. Rather I dont think rolling defense from being drug on the grounds makes sense lol.

I honestly could make it a special attack, itd just have a "special" in the attack zone and take up more room is all. I dont think it really changes anything. I'll think about that one.

[caps]

I was thinking you would have him place the figure adjacent at the end of his move. Now it places the figure wherever he is when he does the roll.

I think the roll 2 attack dice thing is weird. Is it considered an attack? There are powers that trigger on an attack or a skull rolled.

I would just simplify it and do a d20 roll for damage. Basically Chainfighter + Arthur of Sherwood and maybe Kira Jax