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The Book of Toxin (Patrick Mulligan)

The Book of Toxin (Patrick Mulligan)

C3G MARVEL WAVE 34
WEB OF VENOM



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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Web of Spider-Man set.
Its model number and name are #103 / Toxin.

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Character Bio - Just as Venom "fathered" Carnage, eventually Carnage himself produced a spawn. Carnage tried to kill the newly-born symbiote, but Venom protected it and gave it a chance to bond with a host. Venom named the new symbiote "Toxin" (after himself). Toxin bonded with Patrick Mulligan, a cop and new father. The Toxin symbiote and Pat eventually formed a shaky bond and started acting as a vigilante, with Pat reining in Toxin's more bloodthirsty impulses.
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21 November 2020 - Symbiote Tracking wording update

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Re: The Book of Toxin (Design)

NAME = TOXIN
SECRET IDENTITY = PATRICK MULLIGAN

SPECIES = SYMBIOTE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = VIGILANTE
PERSONALITY = CONFLICTED

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 2
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 240


SYMBIOTE TRACKING 3
Instead of his normal move, Toxin may move up to 3 spaces with Symbiote Tracking. When moving with Symbiote Tracking, Toxin has the Flying special power, but may not move up or down more than 40 levels in a single move, and will not take any leaving engagement attacks. After using Symbiote Tracking, you may use it two additional times. If you use it three times in one turn, Toxin cannot attack this turn.

TOXIC SYMBIOSIS 3
After moving and before attacking with Toxin, you may roll up to 3 combat dice. For each:
• skull rolled, add 1 to Toxin's Attack number for this turn.
• shield rolled, subtract 1 from Toxin's Attack number for this turn.
• blank rolled, Toxin may attack one additional time this turn.

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Re: The Book of Toxin (Design)

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Usual vigilante stuff would make sense. Grungy cityscape kind of thing.

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Re: The Book of Toxin (Design)

Went ahead and claimed the art here. Still dig the design.


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Re: The Book of Toxin (Design)

225 guestimate for cost?

Design looks solid.

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Re: The Book of Toxin (Design)

I think folding the tracking stuff into the first power streamlines the design a lot - I think he's about perfect, pending gameplay.

Might go with something more like "Symbiote Tracking 3" for the movement power, though, personally. Rings a little better in my ear.
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Re: The Book of Toxin (Design)

I like Johnny's name suggestion.

Otherwise a very clean awesome design. I'm curious to see how the Toxic ability will play out strategy-wise. Seems kind of like a Marro Stinger strategy - never use their power since it's not worth the risk. But the bonuses could be way better, so I'm intrigued.

7 life seems like a lot for him. For being a "lesser" Carnage, shouldn't he be 5? Maybe 6?
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Re: The Book of Toxin (Design)

He doesn’t have a dodge ability though.
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Re: The Book of Toxin (Design)

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I think folding the tracking stuff into the first power streamlines the design a lot - I think he's about perfect, pending gameplay.

Might go with something more like "Symbiote Tracking 3" for the movement power, though, personally. Rings a little better in my ear.
Yeah, I could see going for a name like that. I kept the name a verb so that I could just plug it right into the Tendril Swing wording without needing to change anything, but I could tweak that stuff. The current name definitely isn't perfect.

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I like Johnny's name suggestion.

Otherwise a very clean awesome design. I'm curious to see how the Toxic ability will play out strategy-wise. Seems kind of like a Marro Stinger strategy - never use their power since it's not worth the risk. But the bonuses could be way better, so I'm intrigued.
I could see playing it conservatively and skipping the power at times, but I think as compared to the Stingers' thingy, Toxin's power has much higher rewards and lower risks.

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7 life seems like a lot for him. For being a "lesser" Carnage, shouldn't he be 5? Maybe 6?
Nah. He's more powerful than Carrnage. Beats Carnage and Venom at the same time in his first appearance. But he's a bit up and down, because after that he has a knock-down drag-out with Razorfist (a guy whose thing is that he's a martial artist with knives instead of hands). He's one of those "huge power, still kinda figuring it out" types.

In general, my intended mechanical aesthetic for symbiotes going forward is gonna be "fewer dodge powers, higher Life". They don't have spider-senses* and they generally don't fight dodgy, they fight like horror monsters. Planning to lean into that with Venom (II) and Carnage (II), so Toxin will look a bit more part of a set with them than he does with the current Venom and Carnage.

*a lot of adaptations and retellings give them a spider-sense, but they don't have it in the good ol' 616
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Re: The Book of Toxin (Design)

Cool, if it fits it fits. It just stood out to me!
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Re: The Book of Toxin (Design)

I think the Carnage II write-up was last siting at like 9 life, so he definitely isn’t an outlier compared to ‘new school’ C3G Symbiotes.


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Re: The Book of Toxin (Design)

Groovy.

Updated the power name in the SP.

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Points calculator suggested 240 for me, but I'm counting both his powers as 3s.
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